# Dear suspect baiters, what will you do, with neutral logi banned from highsec? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 28, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087 "2019-02-28T17:22:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/21 "2019-03-01T14:54:36Z")
Interesting. Thanks for linked that. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/22 "2019-03-01T14:56:18Z")
I think it’s a good change with a bad taste. I mean … the real problem was that no one shot the suspect logi. The mechanics aren’t to blame, and the players … well, they’re underachievers who abused the fact that no one engages the suspect logi. If they refuse to do any duels otherwise, then they’re doing it wrong. No, it’s not a play-style. Ignoring the play-style fallacy, how can “being such a sad, sore loser, that I need to cheat in duels to make sure I always win” be a play-style? Makes me wonder. You know … as long as the repping module keeps cycling until CONCORD arrives, this really isn’t much of an issue. And, to be honest, I could rep someone as -10. Granted, though, that would be near impossible to deal with, when I’m trying to duel someone at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/23 "2019-03-01T15:12:08Z")
I wouldn’t judge about players, using all available mechanics to their advantage. Personally I solved this dilemma, by restricting myself to one account … you see me repeating this often in posts, because I continuously have to convince myself not leaving this route. EvE isn’t a game of fairness. But knowing the duel partner may likely play foul, killed the reputation of the duel mechanic, sadly. Maybe it’s too late, maybe we will see more duels. Still neutral boosts are a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/24 "2019-03-03T00:51:35Z")
Wait, i thought it was just wars? And not duels or suspect baiting? Or maybe i didnt read the dev blog thoroughly enough. I do that sometimes, when its a wall of text, and i have better things to do. ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/25 "2019-03-03T00:53:33Z")
I hope more players reduce themselves to one account types like your playstyle. It will make the universe more interesting ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/26 "2019-03-03T01:50:39Z")
The suspect baiters I know do it the old-fashioned way, with an Ishkur of Fantastic™. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/27 "2019-03-03T07:37:14Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Wait, i thought it was just wars? And not duels or suspect baiting? Both, was a small easy to miss paragraph in the original blog, and even Lebowsky didn’t know on first day. But he confirmed the next, that neutral logi in PvP is banned from highsec generally, see my quote above. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/28 "2019-03-03T07:48:49Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > Both, was a small easy to miss paragraph in the original blog, and even Lebowsky didn’t know on first day. But he confirmed the next, that neutral logi in PvP is banned from highsec generally, see my quote above. Oh man, that will change the landscape of Duels forever. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/29 "2019-03-03T18:40:59Z")
Yes now when I duel freighters it will be a tad more fair. +1 on this change! ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/30 "2019-03-03T22:02:04Z")
Hey Pix! What’s that? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/31 "2019-03-03T22:02:53Z")
I agree with this wholeheartedly. ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/32 "2019-03-04T02:37:36Z")
Hey Sol, good to see you. The [Ishkur of Fantastic™](https://evedarklord.blogspot.com/2013/08/sexy-times-ishkur-of-fantastic.html) - Many a battleship has succumbed to this beast. ---
**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/33 "2019-03-04T04:02:24Z")
I can personally speak to it’s potency. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/34 "2019-03-11T12:54:24Z")
Carry on regardless. Don’t tend to use Logistics anyway, and now people will be that bit more willing to fight without having to worry about potential outside assistance. Some will even grow overconfident in the days following the changes. ---
**Author:** ![Demerius\_Xenocratus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demerius_xenocratus/32/131592_2.png) [@Demerius\_Xenocratus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Demerius_Xenocratus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/35 "2019-05-26T06:10:19Z")
You’re bad if you needed alts to get kills suspect baiting. Get an active tanked Ishkur and live the dream, with a beefy active tanked cruiser docked in system that you can swap to before the timer runs out. (You’d be surprised how many mission/mining bears will see your ishkur warp off and assume they’ve won, only to die confused when your deimos or machariel lands ontop of them.) ---
**Author:** ![Retribution\_atSubZero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/retribution_atsubzero/32/139672_2.png) [@Retribution\_atSubZero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Retribution_atSubZero)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/36 "2019-05-26T13:50:32Z")
That’s gonna suck for suspect baiters…I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Vale\_Koenig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vale_koenig/32/425268_2.png) [@Vale\_Koenig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vale_Koenig)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/37 "2019-05-27T00:07:52Z")
Jita Counter gets half ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/38 "2019-05-27T05:24:25Z")
🤤🤪🤤🤪🤤🤪 So dumb ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Adoulin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_adoulin/32/228124_2.png) [@Mike\_Adoulin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Adoulin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/39 "2019-05-28T12:23:53Z")
I actually support getting rid of logi, period. Just makes fights last longer…infinitely longer in some cases… And this made idiots like Holeysheet leave. Automatic thumbs up. PS I only run a single account as well, just like Tipa. Very definitely changes your perspective on the game. ---
**Author:** ![Starrakatt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starrakatt/32/384322_2.png) [@Starrakatt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starrakatt)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087/40 "2019-05-28T20:50:29Z")
I all the time past I’ve been doing wardecs, even though I had a neutral alt, I can count on one hand the times I had to use the neutral logi. In the end, I just dropped the logi altogether for a full time scout/links, and even then rarely had I to use the links and burn my alt. Target selection and ship selection through widely distributed assets goes a long way for it to work. Same with suspect baiting, play smart and one can solo most ships or couple ships. Is it harder now? Yes, for some players, so what, adapt. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dear-suspect-baiters-what-will-you-do-with-neutral-logi-banned-from-highsec/143087.md?page=3)