# Delay Local **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 21, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898 "2018-03-21T12:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/910 "2018-04-16T08:49:06Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If you dont take precautions to know they are there, then yes, you wont know they are there. So I need to park an account on every gate just to grind ISK? > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Are you saying you cant rat/mine in Player NS without immediate Local intel? Basically yes. It becomes so inefficient that it’s better to stay in high sec or go to wormhole space. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/911 "2018-04-16T08:52:20Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > So I need to park an account on every gate just to grind ISK? Seriously, listen to yourself 😃 Are you NOT already watching your gates in Player NS already? Oo > [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Basically yes. It becomes so inefficient that it’s better to stay in high sec or go to wormhole space. If that is how bad you are at ratting/mining in Player NS, then yeah, maybe you should go back to HS or WHs (Id love to see you try to survive in WH). ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/912 "2018-04-16T08:54:28Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > So I need to park an account on every gate just to grind ISK? > > Seriously, listen to yourself 😃 > > Are you NOT already watching your gates in Player NS already? Oo No > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If that is how bad you are at ratting/mining in Player NS, then yeah, maybe you should go back to HS or WHs (Id love to see you try to survive in WH). Call me bad all you want, but you obviously don’t understand PVE in nullsec. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/913 "2018-04-16T08:55:37Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If that is how bad you are at ratting/mining in Player NS, then yeah, maybe you should go back to HS or WHs (Id love to see you try to survive in WH). Failed hunter comes up with an idea of delaying local instead of improving himself… And you call anyone bad? Because he does not want to sub 2-3 accounts to park on gates? Man i would love to see you surviving even in lowsec, but you cant even do that according to your killboard omg. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/914 "2018-04-16T08:55:46Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > No Then you are doing it wrong. > [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Call me bad all you want, but you obviously don’t understand PVE in nullsec. Yes, Im calling you bad. Its clearly you that does not understand how to survive while running PvE in Player NS. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/915 "2018-04-16T08:56:48Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Yes, Im calling you bad. > > Its clearly you that does not understand how to survive while running PvE in Player NS. > **[Cynabal | Minmatar Citizen 94200397 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/48449939/)** > > Minmatar Citizen 94200397 (Pator Tech School) lost their Cynabal in Aralgrund (Heimatar). Final Blow by Sinshisko Van Raynar (The Ivana Trading Federation) flying in a Panther. Total Value: 162,705,201.20 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/916 "2018-04-16T08:57:35Z")
> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#): > > Failed hunter comes up with an idea of delaying local instead of improving himself… Answer this: Can you or can you not survive in Player NS while running PvE content without the crutch of instant Local intel? ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/917 "2018-04-16T08:57:47Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Then you are doing it wrong. So the system I use has 4 gates. So you expect me to run 5 accounts to rat in a VNI when I don’t want to PVP? Sure… > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Yes, Im calling you bad. > > Its clearly you that does not understand how to survive while running PvE in Player NS. Tell me how to survive an interceptor gang I can’t see coming. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/918 "2018-04-16T09:00:09Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Can you or can you not survive in Player NS while running PvE content without the crutch of instant Local intel? Yes, but it would take so much effort that it would not even worth it. Now you answer mine: how did that killmail i linked happen? There was instant local, You were in a smaller ship that aligns somewhat fast. According to your own words you are either afk/bot/idiot. Choose! ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/919 "2018-04-16T09:00:45Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > So you expect me to run 5 accounts to rat Doesnt have to be you, bro. What are you doing PvEing in Player NS without Corp/Alliance support? > [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Tell me how to survive an interceptor gang I can’t see coming. Gate scouts, shared intel, heuristic TMZ and system choice, Corp/alliance support, GTFO fits and contingencies, d-scanning, etc. Seriously, do you not know what you are doing? I thought you are the “good” PvE in Player NS genius. You tell me how you are so bad you cant use the above? ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/920 "2018-04-16T09:03:19Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Doesnt have to be you, bro. > > What are you doing PvEing in Player NS without Corp/Alliance support? People haves lives. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Gate scouts, shared intel, heuristic TMZ and system choice, Corp/alliance support, GTFO fits and contingencies, d-scanning, etc. > > Seriously, do you not know what you are doing? > > I thought you are the “good” PvE in Player NS genius. > > You tell me how you are so bad you cant use the above? I can, but I don’t because it’s not reliable. It causes more trouble than it solves. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/921 "2018-04-16T09:04:01Z")
> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#): > > Yes, but it would take so much effort that it would not even worth it. If you cant afford the effort, then maybe you shouldnt be doing it. > [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#): > > Now you answer mine: how did that killmail i linked happen? There was instant local, It happened at the gate, cos I was a clueless noob. Has nothing to do with instant Local in LS. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/922 "2018-04-16T09:04:07Z")
and btw if something is on d-scan the first time you see it you are already dead. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/923 "2018-04-16T09:04:33Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > btw if something is on d-scan the first time you see it you are already dead. Thats not true. You arent dead till you explode. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/924 "2018-04-16T09:05:51Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Thats not true. > > You arent dead till you explode. These are your responses and you think you have a good argument. lol. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/925 "2018-04-16T09:06:11Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > It happened at the gate, cos I was a clueless noob. > > Has nothing to do with instant Local in LS. So you have chosen the idiot option. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/926 "2018-04-16T09:07:11Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > These are your responses and you think you have a good argument. Its a factual response to your stupid statement. Do you consider yourself a “good” Player NS PvEr? Yes or no. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/927 "2018-04-16T09:07:54Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Its a factual response to your stupid statement. > > Do you consider yourself a “good” Player NS PvEr? > > Yes or no. Do you consider yourself a good hunter? Yes or no. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/928 "2018-04-16T09:08:01Z")
> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#): > > So you have chosen the idiot option. I was not, and still am not, an idiot. I was simply a clueless noob. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/929 "2018-04-16T09:08:51Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I was no, and still am not, an idiot. > > I was simply a clueless noob. And this hasnt changed… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898.md?page=45) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898.md?page=47)