# Delay Local **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 21, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898 "2018-03-21T12:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/951 "2018-04-16T09:37:53Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > How highly skilled would you like me to be to earn 17 mill ISk per tick? Nothing to do with ticks. Has to do with how good you are at avoiding/overcoming PvP, while you PvE. If you cant deal without the instant Local intel crutch in Player NS, then yeah, maybe you should move back to HS. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/952 "2018-04-16T09:38:51Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Nothing to do with ticks. Yes it does. It’s called risk/reward. You think the risk is too low for the reward, which is why you are dribbling in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/953 "2018-04-16T09:40:41Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Yes it does. It’s called risk/reward. Yes, it is. If you cant handle PvEing in Player NS without instant Local intel, as replaced by delayed Local intel, perhaps you dont have what it takes to PvE in Player NS interms of personal skills or corp support. I guess HS is more your thing then. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/954 "2018-04-16T09:43:53Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I guess HS is more your thing then. Yeah, and if it drives players like me out then you will have nobody to hunt because I wouldn’t be the only one to leave. So what does your idea achieve? ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/955 "2018-04-16T09:45:15Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > So what does your idea achieve? Incompetent hunters will have a kill purely by luck while putting competent pve players at highly increased stress. This is what this ■■■■■■■■ achieves. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/956 "2018-04-16T09:45:58Z")
> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#): > > Incompetent hunters will have a kill purely by luck while putting competent pve players at highly increased stress. This is what this ■■■■■■■■ achieves. Sounds great lmfao. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/957 "2018-04-16T09:46:25Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Yeah, and if it drives players like me out then you will have nobody to hunt because I wouldn’t be the only one to leave. If it drives out players like you that cant handle it without instant Local intel, well, thats your choice. Go to HS then for instant Local intel, and maybe one day when you are better and/or have a more supporting corp you can return to the greater risk/reward of Player NS. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/958 "2018-04-16T09:47:55Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If it drives out players like you that cant handle it without instant Local intel, well, thats your choice. > > Go to HS then for instant Local intel, and maybe one day when you are better and/or have a more supporting corp you can return to the greater risk/reward of Player NS. Well if your sole intention is to specifically drive me out of nullsec then yes by all means your idea is top notch. However i would argue that the health of the game matters more than where I rat. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/959 "2018-04-16T09:49:45Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Well if your sole intention is to specifically drive me out of nullsec then yes by all means your idea is top notch. No, lol. Ofc it isnt. You said you are a good PvEr, so Im sure you can deal with a delayed Local intel. But if you cant, well, you can always go back to HS instead, until you are good enough and have a corp/alliance supporting enough for you to run the higher risk/reward content there. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/960 "2018-04-16T09:52:25Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You said you are a good PvEr, so Im sure you can deal with a delayed Local intel. I could but there comes a point where it’s not worth the effort. Dealing with delayed local is simply not worth the effort. Don’t you understand that? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/961 "2018-04-16T09:56:07Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Dealing with delayed local is simply not worth the effort. If you cant handle yourself without instant Local intel, then you should move back to where it would still exist. HS. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/962 "2018-04-16T09:56:43Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Too bad, too sad. > > If you cant handle yourself without instant Local intel, then you should move back to where it would still exist. HS. How is forcing people into highsec a good idea? What does your idea actually achieve that is good for the game? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/963 "2018-04-16T09:57:59Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > How is forcing people into highsec a good idea? Doesnt force you to go anywhere. If you cant adapt or dont have the skills/support to deal without instant Local intel, then its up to you. HTFU, or go back to HS. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/964 "2018-04-16T09:58:44Z")
Friendly reminder to Salvos: Competent hunters adapted to local If you cant adapt, then you are incompetent edit: HTFU or go back to HS where you can gank anyone freely. If you want to play with null locals then bring a fleet small guy. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/965 "2018-04-16T09:59:29Z")
> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#): > > Competent hunters adapted to local They will also adapt to delayed Local intel. Cant you? ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/966 "2018-04-16T09:59:40Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Doesnt force you to go anywhere. > > If you cant adapt or dont have the skills/support to deal without instantLocal intel, then its up to you. Yes it does because it’s not worth it to adapt. Why would I adapt? I don’t run level 1 missions for ISK because it’s not worth it. I wouldn’t PVE in null with delayed local because it’s not worth it. So why is that a good idea? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/967 "2018-04-16T10:01:37Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > So why is that a good idea? So you are admitting you are so bad, incapable of adapting, and without corp support, that you would be unable to run Player NS PvE content WITHOUT the crutch of instant Local Intel? ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/968 "2018-04-16T10:04:14Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > So you are admitting you are so bad, incapable of adapting, and without corp support, that you would be unable to run Player NS PvE content WITHOUT the crutch of instant Local Intel? Answer the question > [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > So why is that a good idea? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/969 "2018-04-16T10:05:56Z")
Man, if you cant deal with something as small as a 30delay on Local intel in Player NS (that applies to everyone), I dont think you have the skills/support to be there in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/970 "2018-04-16T10:06:13Z")
Because subbing 4+ accounts just to put them on gates OR asking your bros to do the same is soooo good right miss salvos [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898.md?page=47) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898.md?page=49)