# Delay Local **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 21, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898 "2018-03-21T12:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/991 "2018-04-16T10:35:23Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > In the world that you claimed a gate guard would require 20% of your ticks/income. > > IDIOT! GTFO nullbear. You are done here. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/992 "2018-04-16T10:36:19Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > GTFO nullbear. > > You are done here. Done exposing your lack of brainpower yes. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/993 "2018-04-16T10:37:50Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Done exposing your lack of brainpower yes. If you dont have the skills/support to survive in Player NS with a 30s delay to Local intel, I think you should head back to HS. You clearly arent ready/prepared for the risk/reward of Player NS. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/994 "2018-04-16T10:39:12Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You clearly arent ready/prepared for the risk/reward of Player NS. You are right I’m not prepared to run 5 accounts to make 17 mill per tick. What a bad player I am. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/995 "2018-04-16T10:44:18Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > You are right I’m not prepared to run 5 accounts to make 17 mill per tick. What a bad player I am. Yes. You are a bad player if you think you need 5 accounts to make 17mil per tick. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/996 "2018-04-16T10:45:14Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You are a bad player if you think you need 5 accounts to make 17mil per tick. How else do I watch the gates? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/997 "2018-04-16T10:45:42Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > How else do I watch the gates? What makes you think YOU need to watch the gates? PS: Didnt you state you where leaving the thread in ragequit? ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/998 "2018-04-16T10:45:49Z")
Forget it I don’t care in fact ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/999 "2018-04-16T10:50:48Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Forget it I don’t care in fact What this sums up to is: “Hi guys, I’m a PvEr in Player NS. I liek to farm and PvE with instant Local intel, cos then I can initiate warp away to safe when baddies show up instantly on Local. I am very pro because of this. I am very good PvEr. If Local intel is delayed, I will not be pro PvEr ☹ This makes me sad and I will go to HS!!1” Go to HS then. The reward in Player NS is still so large that players/corps that actually know what they are doing and cover their asses will still remain post delayed Local. Too bad, too sad if you cant. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1000 "2018-04-16T10:54:50Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > “Hi guys, I’m a PvEr in Player NS. I liek to farm and PvE with instant Local intel, cos then I can initiate warp away to safe when baddies show up instantly on Local. I am very pro because of this. I am very good PvEr. If Local intel is delayed, I will not be pro PvEr ☹ This makes me sad and I will go to HS!!1” He said he does not want delayed local because then he would need to ask/pay corp/alliance/someone to watch gates if he wants any kind of safety OR he would need to pay for 3-4 extra accounts just to watch gates. Now want me to summarize what you just done in this topic or summarize your idea the way you done it? :))))) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1001 "2018-04-16T10:56:40Z")
> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#): > > He said he does not want delayed local because then he would need to ask/pay corp/alliance/someone to watch gates if he wants any kind of safety OR he would need to pay for 3-4 extra accounts just to watch gates. Too bad too sad. Corps/alliances can/should watch their gates. Its a trivial issue to assign/rotate members to watch gates while the rest farm. Its also a trivial matter to pay players to watch the gates for you while you farm. If you cant survive in Player NS without instant Local, then you probably shouldn’t be there in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1002 "2018-04-16T10:58:13Z")
But its not trivial for a failed hunter(yes its you:P) to improve himself to be like the rest of the hunters? lol ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1003 "2018-04-16T10:59:41Z")
> [@Ag3nt\_Jita](#): > > But its not trivial for a failed hunter(yes its you:P) to improve himself to be like the rest of the hunters? This is stupid. Its abundantly clear to anyone with any sense that the current instant Local intel favors the prey. ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1004 "2018-04-16T11:04:27Z")
According to your own stupidity, instant local does not favor the prey. It is equally same for both the hunter and the hunted. Btw i never said it doesnt favors the prey, but why should the prey be at more risk if he fits his ships for evasion and good at pve? Being a prey does not mean you have to hand yourself to some failed ganker called Salvos who does not want to improve himself, like the rest of the SUCCESFUL hunters. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1005 "2018-04-16T11:07:07Z")
Man, just stop arguing with Salvos. He already made you defend yourself instead of providing reasons to support his idea (nice trolling btw!). The question _is not_ “why local **should not be** delayed” but “why local **should be** delayed” to start with. And i have not seen good reasons yet (approaching 1000th post). ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1006 "2018-04-16T11:10:36Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > why local should be delayed To provide more opportunity/chance for non-consensual PvP in Player Sov. The current “I see you on instant Local lol and warp to safe” is not working to enable PvP in Player NS, except to engage afk/botters/idiots that dont respond to the arrival in Local intel. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1007 "2018-04-16T11:12:20Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > To provide **less** opportunity for non-consensual PvP in Player Sov… Fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1008 "2018-04-16T11:12:46Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > To provide **less** opportunity for non-consensual PvP in Player Sov… > > Fixed. That makes no sense. Nor is it what I said. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1009 "2018-04-16T11:13:22Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > That makes no sense. Who are you going to hunt when nobody wants to PVE in null because it’s such a trash experience? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898/1010 "2018-04-16T11:14:12Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Who are you going to hunt when nobody wants to PVE in null because it’s such a trash experience? This is a stupid argument. Player NS is not going to empty entirely because Local intel is delayed. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898.md?page=49) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/delay-local/64898.md?page=51)