# Depths of the Abyss

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [September 8, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664 "2020-09-08T14:14:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/42 "2020-09-08T22:40:17Z")

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Glad to see a T0 and dessies (i assume it excludes D3’s)

This is definitely the best, and least exploitable way of doing group pve.

But for the love of god, don’t expand multi-plasmids. I know you’re not gonna phase them out, or at least not soon. But please don’t expand them.

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Fighterson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_fighterson/32/371549_2.png) [@Nick\_Fighterson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Fighterson)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/43 "2020-09-08T23:45:11Z")

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t3d can be used in destroyer abyssal space

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**Author:** ![somanco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/somanco/32/228808_2.png) [@somanco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/somanco)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/44 "2020-09-09T00:24:43Z")

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lol i try today in sisi… FUUCK NO!! new ships spawns are broken ( angel , sansha and CONCORD) angels hits you allways and you cant hit them one fkin time … (angels use turrets… im ussing missiles… so ffff to me ) sansha full dps is insane! … concord got a marshall who neuts you to 50k and the cruisers get you insane voleys ) they apear in t2 filaments . … . THe new kikimora spawn got 7 kikimoras who remote rep them and if you dont got a lot of dps from range you die… so … fuk the new spawns i try 1 b jackdaw to try to do a t3 alone and cant do more than 2 … and the rewards… FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF… no fkin rewards…  
as allways FFF ccp 🙂 you do it again !!

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**Author:** ![Ser\_Trace\_Jakuard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ser_trace_jakuard/32/323718_2.png) [@Ser\_Trace\_Jakuard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ser_Trace_Jakuard)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/45 "2020-09-09T00:40:08Z")

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This was on the test server, was able to start one with 2 T3 Destroyers specifically jackdaws. Tried with a tengu would not let me in, sadface!

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/46 "2020-09-09T00:46:29Z")

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t3 destroyers are in! I’m hyped for them to hit TQ, got a bunch of svipul hulls I need to get blown up.

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**Author:** ![Kei\_Hazard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kei_hazard/32/245509_2.png) [@Kei\_Hazard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kei_Hazard)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/47 "2020-09-09T00:56:04Z")

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Looks like the best 2\*Destroyer option is the Draugur.  
Okay dps + Okay range + T2 resist + remote rep + 2 command burst for better survive.

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**Author:** ![Slimy\_Worm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/slimy_worm/32/378301_2.png) [@Slimy\_Worm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Slimy_Worm)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/48 "2020-09-09T01:45:39Z")

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Carebears aren’t people

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**Author:** ![Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aphrodite_sexy/32/420261_2.png) [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aphrodite_Sexy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/49 "2020-09-09T02:40:05Z")

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T5s already require bling pods and ships, what are T6s gonna have? Also, hope you balance these stuff out. The best thing you can do to allow newbros is to public the database about the abyssal rats.

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**Author:** ![Hazyiness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazyiness/32/216779_2.png) [@Hazyiness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazyiness)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/50 "2020-09-09T03:09:53Z")

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Any mutaplasmids drop? This type of ratting is like a lottery for the good drops.

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**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/51 "2020-09-09T03:39:48Z")

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After a few hours of testing on sisi, seems like T6s need abyssal modules, unless CCP changes it to let T3C’s in, the tank and DPS requirements are just too high for HACs and even the Gila

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/52 "2020-09-09T04:31:28Z")

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> [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](#):
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> T5s already require bling pods and ships, what are T6s gonna have?

I was thinking the same thing. It looks like the crying has already begun.

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**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/53 "2020-09-09T04:34:22Z")

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Im not sure whos crying, cuz it seems like the general abyss community isnt (atleast not the Abyssal Lurkers discord Im in). Is there another group of carebears who are outraged that CCP would dare add content they cant just toss more bling at and print even more fat stacks of ISK?

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/54 "2020-09-09T04:35:31Z")

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> [@somanco](#):
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> new ships spawns are broken

In this very thread people are calling them broken.

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**Author:** ![Nebula5987](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nebula5987/32/228830_2.png) [@Nebula5987](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nebula5987)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/55 "2020-09-09T04:51:23Z")

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7 runs of T6 abyssal gamma got me 890 mil isk worth of loot. It’s twice better than running T5 as far as I can see. Holy hell though, it took me 7.5 min to kill Karybdis. So basically if I get 3 battleships (overmind included) in a row its game over. It would be nice to have resistances that filament reduces at its max value ie -70% in the tier6. Also while we’re testing new content could CCP reduce the number of useless spawns that testers can get. I’m talking about small drones that get obliterated by suppression towers. They spawned for me somewhere around 10 times. As for the new spawns I got to see destroyer spawn twice and sansha spawn once. Sansha spawn was surprising to say the least. Had to kite out of their range with mwd in gila because 1k dps tank was barely not enough it seemed.

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**Author:** ![Iltiss\_Krirgeir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iltiss_krirgeir/32/171569_2.png) [@Iltiss\_Krirgeir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iltiss_Krirgeir)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/56 "2020-09-09T05:23:46Z")

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@CCP_Dopamine @Buoytender_Bob And I hope, that this mechamics will finally be used in nullsec PvE, to combat botting and stop isk influx from it.

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**Author:** ![Alex\_Dicer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_dicer/32/379312_2.png) [@Alex\_Dicer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Dicer)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/57 "2020-09-09T05:47:01Z")

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Seems like drekavac spawn is broken.  
If you fly a Sacrelidge for instance, you are ded. No amount of bling matters, they alpha through your reps. And they are too thick to kite down in a reasonable time.

And you can kite them at all only if no tracking disruptors spawn in.

3-4 neutro vedmaks which spawn inside speed bs cloud is fun as well. =/

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**Author:** ![nStedt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nstedt/32/514888_2.png) [@nStedt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/nStedt)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/58 "2020-09-09T05:50:53Z")

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I did around 10 Tier 6 sites in the test server. I was using my normal bling Gila fit. The DPS in some spawns we higher in T5’s and there are some new spawns which you need to learn. Overall there was nothing the Gila couldnt handle. If you loot everything you get a little tight on time from time to time, thats the prime challange.  
If T6 rewards are higher than the current T5 the isk inflation was continue to rise.  
T6 will be solved in a matter of days when its relesed on TQ. No big deal.

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**Author:** ![Aceyfacey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aceyfacey/32/251142_2.png) [@Aceyfacey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aceyfacey)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/59 "2020-09-09T07:28:56Z")

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Yup they have insane tracking, range and dps. Combined with electrical filaments reducing EM resist makes these guys turbodunk almost anything… Couldnt even do a t2 in a confessor!

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**Author:** ![Aceyfacey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aceyfacey/32/251142_2.png) [@Aceyfacey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aceyfacey)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/60 "2020-09-09T07:51:13Z")

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ya they need to give us a bit more time. Time is so damn tight even with max bling dps…

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**Author:** ![Alex\_Dicer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_dicer/32/379312_2.png) [@Alex\_Dicer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Dicer)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/depths-of-the-abyss/265664/61 "2020-09-09T07:53:32Z")

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By the way, CONCORD/EDENCOM spawn is hillarious. Edencom will zap down all of the Pacifiers in close range 🤣.

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