# Design Service - Desert Oasis

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**Category:** Services\
**Created:** [August 24, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549 "2024-08-24T16:16:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/21 "2024-11-17T17:48:21Z")

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I just couldn’t resist:

Tinsel…

 ![Megathron Tinsel](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/7/7/7772c5c36269535df1573b4602d68aa49e3be76b.jpeg)  
 ![Megathron Tinsel 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/d/0/dd06a0dcc105025c2c635b6473b360c1695ef775.jpeg)

…tis the season and all…, ho ho ho.

 ![Megathron Tinsel 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/c/c/1cc34d9ebd10e3e045a6011d0a1b545690a36a2f.jpeg)  
 ![Megathron Tinsel 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/5/865a708377aaee7143e7f5a959264de00169d23c.jpeg)

As the red and green are respectively, Darkness Forged Feros and Intaki Emerald, this is reflected in it’s price.

Editing this post to include this final shot:

 ![Megathron Tinsel 5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/1/e/c1ee9fe1ddc803017e9552b5527f155bfeadacc2.jpeg)  
Even the engine animation came out red, green, and white, 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/22 "2024-11-18T17:52:15Z")

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I couldn’t figure out what to do with this pattern, Blooming Void.

But, then, it “hit” me…

 ![Nemesis Special Delivery](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/0/0/f00aa14b8545fd65f04aeacf3dfc75ecc3973141.jpeg)  
 ![Nemesis Special Delivery 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/f/7/8f7c1f716968f0c6769d3f983652e4b685b0e170.jpeg)

And, The Rose of Sarikusa:

 ![Ashimmu The Rose of Sarikusa](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/7/7/c77a0c232a4dd25bc594daa6398e2c8fb343205e.jpeg)  
 ![Ashimmu The Rose of Sarikusa 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/0/0/d006045262c095f06aa0a29f0d76de19baf69ed1.jpeg)

Detail shot:

 ![Ashimmu The Rose of Sarikusa 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/8/2/d8201fc5507af4fcb0d971df4f6aa004c8ed2ffd.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/23 "2024-11-21T09:08:41Z")

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Who’d a thunk it!

I didn’t even particularly like _this_ pattern…

But, sometimes, you just indulge your sense of whimsy.

**Stars In Your Eyes:**

Stratios:

 ![Stratios Stars](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/2/9/829ed3a177d0278b4a550831bc296e7826095baf.jpeg)  
 ![Stratios Stars 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/7/1/971ca2df76fb7a65cae3c94678e10882154da550.jpeg)

Detail:

 ![Stratios Stars 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/6/5/765791429dfffccb85d1e62290e06f679d93eebb.jpeg)

Those stars really move, in an endless circle.

 ![Stratios Stars 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/8/a/88ae7cfab469d509a2738006743d2fb8a481b44d.jpeg)

Better yet, the “stars” viewed close up, under high graphics, seem to wink at you, 🙂

\*This red will appear black under certain lighting conditions. Buyer beware.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/24 "2024-11-22T18:02:16Z")

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Duct Tape Not Included:

Republic Fleet Firetail: Certified Pre-Owned

 ![Republic Fleet Firetail Certified Pre-Owned](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/7/2/a728e3630edaabb1e41af1d57c40c93de3b367e8.jpeg)

This design follows in the footsteps of “Bitter Vet”, Post 8. The Certified Pre-Owned RFF, let me be clear, does not include…Duct Tape. Buyer beware.

 ![Republic Fleet Firetail Certified Pre-Owned 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/3/e/43e2d834f2ea5535bf5286a88e8f9c8989adfcbd.jpeg)

Sometime in the second or third year of my engagement with EVE Online I studied ganking with a Vexor:

Duct Tape Not Included:

Vexor: Yarr!

 ![Vexor Duct Tape Not Included](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/f/5/ff555d937f4cf6033c2fb35e6bdb889e29af616d.jpeg)

Ah…Blooming Void has so many useful uses, 🙂

Ganking with vexors, (sounds like an entertainment), used to be more common. I sort of miss it, like talking in local. I miss that, too.

Ishtar: Yarr

 ![Ishtar Duct Tape Not Included](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/3/f/a3fff4a96e6a04e581f594888bf18b1db9e62bb9.jpeg)

I am kind of amazed at how much expression can be achieved with Blooming Void, maybe I should have called it _The Jolly Roger._ (“Bait” would have been too obvious, lol.)

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/25 "2024-12-03T17:31:58Z")

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I love the Brutix. They’ve always reminded me of chubby, fat puppies, 🙂

Fat Puppy:

 ![Brutix Fat Puppy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/3/b/63bc8c14b0fe48c914371206fce6e9118c7a0640.jpeg)  
 ![Brutix Fat Puppy 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/0/c/e0cdb6fb109ac1d88b1fbeec197a22cf84b1049d.jpeg)  
 ![Brutix Fat Puppy 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/a/c/dac8999523ba1d492568f85e729f45ba573af2bd.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/26 "2024-12-04T17:32:41Z")

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As long as I’m on red:

Dominix: Holidays

Holidays comes in two versions, one version more elaborate than the other:

 ![Dominix Holidays](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/7/5/f75dbcc6ba3324b5c91e9cdd6ef015da85797e14.jpeg)  
 ![Dominix Holidays 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/7/f/97f530c1c8962f40feb52e2653fa4360e4db115b.jpeg)  
2nd variation:  
 ![Dominix Holidays Variation 1a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/8/2/782dac8e36390233799d90c6de75fafa785eae70.jpeg)  
 ![Dominix Holidays Variation 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/4/e/a4ee4c8366508653ee0fe765732164490fdfa207.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/27 "2024-12-05T18:06:04Z")

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The Vindi Rose:

 ![Vindicator Rose](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/7/d/07defca3eae62b7cef857a599249ee457204ec68.jpeg)  
 ![Vindicator Rose 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/c/a/acafc23fce2d36d090e38f457210004f53aa1fc9.jpeg)

Detail Shot:

 ![Vindicator Rose 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/6/8/668a777f6887211426efcaebba80d8c0d309ba0e.jpeg)  
Please note this is an asymmetrical design the Blooming Void pattern (the rose) appears on only one side.

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**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/28 "2024-12-07T03:10:03Z")

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I started off with the Kronos hull displayed in post 4…

 ![Woodgrain 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/f/b/1fb3d320e1dbb7ce785a4e6dce09a32d78e842cf.jpeg)

Staid, comfortable, powerful even…and, somehow, ended up here…

(Available by request only.)

Megathron Navy Issue: Christmas Cactus

 ![Megathron Navy Issue Christmas Cactus](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/f/5/af58a4cc4265beeef4649cb98964c3ff99b7e7d6.jpeg)

How do these things happen?

 ![Megathron Navy Issue Christmas Cactus 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/f/3/df397b88602d1382bd311f30eb1a83106a936623.jpeg)

!

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**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/29 "2024-12-08T07:27:06Z")

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I was thinking about:

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/a/f/aafa69721990389bbaf6f43f183732cdcdd52e0e.jpeg "EVE Online | THE MINMATAR REPUBLIC") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE4WH6kKgS0)

And look what happened…

Tempest: We Stand

 ![Tempest We Stand](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/e/f/0efdba0881ae2b6319d4ba6c6e97be58282947cf.jpeg)  
 ![Tempest We Stand 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/c/e9c8c97fc6b8f1283c57912d0567d427a0aa901b.jpeg)

and a slightly pricier version:

 ![Tempest We Stand Color Variation](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/c/5/1c5397812300dddc38a704724de8dd277c12de28.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/30 "2024-12-09T19:24:08Z")

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There’s been talk in the community about how skins, once applied in game, don’t always appear as they do in Skinr. Well, this is definitely an issue, no question, some of the dark red metallic skins can appear as black, at times, in game.

There are other colors affected as well. Sometimes, it’s the grunge/dirt effect; so, if a ship is cleaned, the skin will appear as imagined. Sometimes the grunge provides a patina that is desirable.

But, today, I want to talk about the…happy accidents.

Way back in post 7, I showcased this skin:

 ![Beautiful 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/1/b/d1bc45877fd73b11169666f694420187f83df88c.jpeg)

When I designed it, I wanted a unique color, something you couldn’t go to Jita and buy, so I fiddled around. And after a shocking amount of time, this color, I call Coffee, emerged. I really liked it, so I made a copy.

It didn’t sell.

Oh well, you make something to your taste, _you_ get to use it.

So, I finally applied it. It looked rather, hum, “ho-hum” in the station. I was rather glad it hadn’t sold. And, as luck would have it, I had to pick something small up, so I took the Enyo.

By this point in time, I’d made enough skins to realize viewing in the station didn’t always accurately show what the skin would look like “on the road.”

(Oh, I also cleaned the ship. Just in case.)

Well, I could spend a lot of words describing what happened, but I think I’ll let pictures tell the story:

This is one ship, one trip.

Enyo: The Gilded Age

 ![Enyo Amarr](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/4/b/84bbbd6c6efee1a60a03868d87949a0ed604f9a9.jpeg)  
Amarr

 ![Enyo Amarr 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/e/7/ae789a7fa8348c7020725f3cbca01761b0964f24.jpeg)

 ![Enyo Billboard 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/3/9/d3945e52942bbac300efb10ed49390b4d8c09090.jpeg)  
(reflecting blue off the Billboard)

 ![Enyo Billboard](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/e/7/6e714ec5bc279120048c6fb57057f4c57a86427a.jpeg)  
(different Billboard ad, different reflected color)

 ![Enyo Botane ICY 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/2/7/3271c2e75243a12a29f8fe5a4ebce82e9ebfe81e.jpeg)  
Botane - The ICY Station

 ![Enyo Botane ICY](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/5/9/45929e75e4fec22d813b45bc029731c71700f2cb.jpeg)  
Botane ICY station

 ![Enyo Bour 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/e/2/5e221fc591755c62f08c6cdee2c5dc78ef62562a.jpeg)  
Bourynes Univ. of Caille

 ![Enyo Bour. 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/8/6/28677d07390ab472bfda069801d25082a3363d42.jpeg)  
Bourynes AIR Station

 ![Enyo Dodixie](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/e/9/de925992c508642529192eefb84a73aec184b6cd.jpeg)  
Dodixie Market Hub

 ![Enyo Hek - Krusual Tribe](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/8/f28d35b836e23cebeaa56114128da425746f4159.jpeg)  
Hek Krusual Tribe

 ![Enyo Jita 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/1/1/21151c808df9935df18a10d6c80d8f43d2470273.jpeg)  
Jita

 ![Enyo Jita 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/c/e9c9021b5d8c71a9511269faad97b48640154815.jpeg)  
Jita

 ![Enyo Jita 5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/6/7/a67337c450ba181315f42e90ff4983745a4f158f.jpeg)

 ![Enyo Jita Outside](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/c/4/fc4b338972f511eda97d5ce3e39ad447b826a4c0.jpeg)  
Outside Jita 4 - 4

 ![Enyo Peri TTC](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/2/d/92d67465d7240bb121f29cbd6e54a280d5594538.jpeg)  
Perimeter TTC

 ![Enyo Ten Amar](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/3/c/f3c45580c7025f2f55e0d47321db1e84298496b3.jpeg)  
Tennen

And last, but certainly not least:

 ![Enyo Yuhelia](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/f/3/df3bc255d6afced0c54e395e78215cd398761472.jpeg)  
Yuhelia

 ![Enyo Yuhelia 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/b/0/ab0747f9ae2393a8ab67ee0432e5a095dbcf612c.jpeg)

Heck, I’d pay for that color.

Anyhow, the upshot, and purpose of uploading all these photos is: I blended three dark greens, and a silver, and a pattern and I got this.

 ![Enyo Jita Outside](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/c/4/fc4b338972f511eda97d5ce3e39ad447b826a4c0.jpeg)  
Jita 4 - 4 Outside the station.

One skin, multiple colors.

A happy accident.

😄

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/31 "2024-12-11T17:25:52Z")

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Talos Bespoke:

Copperhead Variation:

 ![Talos Bespoke](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/9/7/097eb2ab8fd4b9f339a7cf7e0ecb05b389b34207.jpeg)  
 ![Talos Bespoke 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/b/c/fbcf5c97c98219e3a376d6a458e9b8ce19c84948.jpeg)  
 ![Talos Bespoke 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/c/7/2c75b929b752ad19e119bdf827f882afbbf57d07.jpeg)  
 ![Talos Bespoke 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/4/8/d48f9878b261cbaa461e9e9e32073104d756a740.jpeg)

Black Tie Affair:

 ![Talos Black Red Bespoke](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/6/8/e68342cf9b3b8e2e3edf4e6390620e852b5a82db.jpeg)

Violets:

 ![Talos Bespoke Violet](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/9/0/8901da2f2ab4c9cf140789cf7f2aa6bf1932882a.jpeg)  
 ![Talos Bespoke Violet 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/5/9/0595c3dbaa2921d367cd7c6ac62ad4665805d389.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/32 "2024-12-17T22:39:31Z")

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Random thoughts:

Keres: Old Money

 ![Keres Old Money](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/9/8/f9896feefd0f4261a671d3ddbd89329a7bace908.jpeg)  
 ![Keres Old Money 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/5/6/356a2ae99677c56f3c2ffa8ea7543b64f0cea986.jpeg)  
 ![Keres Old Money 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/c/8/1c883b08218cc436d9fcdd0d1574e4b05c40617e.jpeg)  
 ![Keres Old Money 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/7/d/67dcf36dc96bfbc67cbcc5364ef72b143b9fb7a2.jpeg)

Hyperion: Caramel Suns

 ![Hyperion Caramel Suns](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/7/e/17e140df9909d755db037e9db362b2225e29293f.jpeg)

Vexor: Caramel Suns: Hearts

 ![Vexor Caramel Suns](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/8/b/d8b24416dc693b6af61a02197f29deb72026db7b.jpeg)

Vexor Navy Issue: Modern Mapping

 ![Vexor Navy Issue Modern Mapping](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/8/8/488957b6ef1c84c791a38fcbbc5c58b5af3df019.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/33 "2024-12-22T18:31:58Z")

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Apostle: Priestess

 ![Apostle Priestess](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/5/4/c54dc2d0cc8a98eee1933d678de3bd86142242d0.jpeg)

 ![Apostle Priestess 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/6/d/26dab4f7afe515c24fd8bf44f5823f64ca78f23b.jpeg)

 ![Apostle Priestess 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/5/7/1575f3a4cac266c23c893139a4a9ea2322ba5d0c.jpeg)

Detail Shot:

 ![Apostle Priestess 5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/c/0/bc091f1f69ca78f1e420c449eaac099dfa80d011.jpeg)

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What do you think? A bug? An unintended side effect? Emergent gameplay in the sequencing market?

Talos:

 ![Talos Color Change](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/b/3/2b397dc01839b46a0a76cd4e2595e73c3490ef12.jpeg)

 ![Talos Color Change 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/a/3/1a3839110c76ff5f21eae6c416cf1f3de5133a36.jpeg)

Yes, that color does change on command, just scroll.

The Talos skin is available to view in the Paragon Hub.

While not available for viewing, here is another example:

Algos:

 ![Algos Color Fade](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/b/0/6b090f23b0da1b2438b8484af4b027526f72f9c1.jpeg)

 ![Algos Color Fade 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/e/5/4e556322397849e18a7d4284ee8fb070c8fb0150.jpeg)

If you’re interested, technical discussion, minus proprietary info, can be found here:

> [@👁️👁️ SKINR / SKIN design showcase - show off the ones that you like](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skinr-skin-design-showcase-show-off-the-ones-that-you-like/452484/81):
>
> o/ I’ve run across a combination of patterns (I believe it is the patterns) that produce an active color change on a variety of ship hulls. Some hulls have a dramatic color change, and a few hulls seem entirely unaffected. The Talos shows this: As you can clearly see the yellow does not appear at all in the first photo. To manipulate the color change, you simply use your “scroll”. When the ship hull is visually closer the yellow disappears. …

What do I think? Regarding bug, etc.?

I think it’s a happy accident, 🙂

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I’ve seen comments tossed about on various chat platforms about how expensive Skinr is if you want an entire fleet “suited up”.

Initially, when you think about it, it is a “cost”; but is it actually expensive?

I decided to give this some thought, and report on my findings.

The Ferox Navy Issue is a commonly used ship, priced on zkill from anywhere from 200 million isk to 400 million plus isk, depending on fit. A number of organizations use the FNI for fleet doctrines, some of those organizations also provide ship replacement.

So, once that thought occurred to me, I took a closer look at the price disparity between a doctrine ship eligible for ship replacement and a fleet “authorized” ship skin.

So, FNI, price between 200 million isk and 400 million isk plus.

Possible FNI doctrine/fleet standard “uniforms”, via SKINR:

Currently Priced 22 PLEX (if it doesn’t occur to you, yes. I was thinking about Sev7rance.)

 ![Logo 22 Plex white](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/3/1/a31401c54b692330eb44145b541876be0ed47662.jpeg)

Currently Priced 22 PLEX

 ![Logo 22 Plex](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/f/6/2f607294d5da6a08e587f49d8ec917d7ac36c4f4.jpeg)

At 26 PLEX

 ![Logo 26 Plex](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/6/6/666204c87c3d070a21f1072fc0ea2ad27c08227e.jpeg)

30 PLEX

 ![Logo 30 PLEX](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/4/f/b4f1b3122211c3d8dcbd11d2e6721f2a16a95352.jpeg)

At 37 PLEX

 ![Logo 37 PLEX Blue](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/c/8/1c8c3e61288e44d5aadc6e2ae1ddb549a3f0ade6.jpeg)

37 PLEX

 ![Logo 37 Plex Muzzle](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/3/5/b3544bff439b7da66efc0a5d317d5c45b20dd15b.jpeg)

37 PLEX

 ![Logo 37 Plex Red White](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/b/4/7b450938925bb4fe4c8a6d78b0f3461f619754fc.jpeg)

37 PLEX

 ![Logo 37 PLEX Red](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/a/c/7ac97d76185029f326916b246290d3fff44d5fa1.jpeg)

37 PLEX

 ![Logo 37 Plex](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/1/f/a1f6fad7bedc13c2c927bbe7b4d6772ad0d8d20d.jpeg)

So, 30 minutes of my time, using one common fleet ship, and bottom basement sequencing elements, and I’ve got nine skins for viewing.

Prices for those skins, at current production PLEX cost, at a 6 million isk per plex, Jita market, range from:

22 Plex - 132 million isk to 37 Plex - 222 million isk

Ooooh, that’s comparable to the low end cost fleet ship, eligible for ship replacement.

Hm, if I fly for an organization that provides ship replacement for FNI’s, and I lose 10 of those FNIs in organization sponsored roams, I get ship replaced multiple times.

That SKINR paint job for the FNI, no matter how many times the ship gets blown up, is good to go, every single time.

Maybe, may be, it’s not so expensive after all.

Maybe.

Ship replacement, Skinr uniform.

You do that math.

p.s. On a side note, the cheapest “fleet skin” design I’ve ever done came out at a current PLEX production cost of 18 PLEX.

By my math, that leaves the consumer 2 PLEX left over from CCP’s Christmas gift.

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If you go back to post 34, you’ll see the first public example of the Tootsie’s skin line. (I’ll post it again, below.)

I’ve iterated on it since.

But, I want to talk about “happy accidents”, and inspiration, and when the two collide.

I started off with:

 ![Vexor Tootsies Pink Orchid](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/f/96f483a67eb0c87176091a21329c1d6912a3b7cc.jpeg)

It was designed for me. Not for sale, just for me. And, I liked it. I wanted another, for a different ship.

I dropped somethings, added others, and ended up with:

 ![Talos Color Change](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/b/3/2b397dc01839b46a0a76cd4e2595e73c3490ef12.jpeg)

 ![Talos Color Change 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/a/3/1a3839110c76ff5f21eae6c416cf1f3de5133a36.jpeg)

Now, how you go from lavendar to primary colors, side steps along the “bragging rights” path, but suffice it to say early on I discovered “Tootsie’s” had a rare effect, active color change. I could use my mouse scroll wheel and actively change the skin pattern, after it had finalized, been produced and was actively applied in game. The skin can change in game, in space, in station, maybe while warping (I’ve not tried that!)

Well, I couldn’t just let things stand there, I had to push it.

And, I did.

Push it.

To here:

Venture: Tootsie’s Privateer (The Tear Collector)

 ![Venture Tootsie's Privateer](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/e/0/8e0413266f2c67e95531e68b9b9fcbe4120ebdf2.jpeg)

Not impressed, huh. Well, keep looking…

 ![Venture Tootsie's Privateer 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/0/7/a0781820df12fec53ccfb093c55a7f3a6b8f6366.jpeg)

That’s right, keep going…

 ![Venture Tootsie's Privateer 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/6/9/36989a45019051ee3f21ef4ace235aa7677517b2.jpeg)

The big payoff…

 ![Venture Tootsie's Privateer 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/7/f/d7f0f8fb071d09e251ba76fac7d1d001bb1435fb.jpeg)  
…it even comes with “tears”.

Come on, I had to do it.

It is all one skin, you determine the amount of camouflage. The power is in your mouse’s scroll wheel.

You can have an innocuous mining frigate, or…

The Desert Oasis Battle Venture!

Seen, from a distance, it’s a grubby little…venture. They are practically invisible. When I first started the game, I travelled everywhere in one, cause no one paid any attention to me. Ventures are that common.

But, close up, unfurl those colors, fly your pirate flag proudly!

Gosh, even I can’t keep a straight face any longer…lol, 😉

Anyway, I’ve a line of these little chameleon like monsters, so, in no particular order, here’s a sample of what’s coming from Desert Oasis:

Megathron: Tootsie’s Red

 ![Megathron Tootsie's Red](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/4/d/34d15878ccfd3c9e5a3e78cedadefb167d180dac.jpeg)

 ![Megathron Tootsie's Red 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/d/e/ddeaaaaf64d0f37747f9aabb70bd0c07e6e73b63.jpeg)

Talos: Tootsie’s Pirate

 ![Talos Tootsie's Pirate Pink](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/5/5/755c21189f9f91e4273b4d20f2b3a6efa705cfe7.jpeg)

 ![Talos Tootsie's Pirate Pink 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/c/a/fcaf2db1fa2bb71fb49d03e1f38aa8fc46f6f3b5.jpeg)

Yes, I’ve a special one named The Pirate Princess!

Brutix: Tootsie’s Red

 ![Brutix Tootsie's Red](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/2/5/32508bff7c9bf1101f986b453cc08d3bc1b61c41.jpeg)

 ![Brutix Tootsie's Red 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/0/8601445296a186144858ed8e8d443fe533522057.jpeg)

Hurricane: Tootsie’s Experiment

 ![Hurricane Tootsie's Experiment](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/9/1/9916fe8f5f1ee0ff8360b8741e886ee892bb637b.jpeg)

 ![Hurricane Tootsie's Experiment 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/1/a/91a1929791b9dcc396f732cc18212b70780b8952.jpeg)

Algos: Tootsie’s Privateer

 ![Algos Tootsie's Privateer](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/7/1/07112ff3006c4bcbe53d7193e757e4dd8a10e68e.jpeg)

 ![Algos Tootsie's Privateer 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/a/d/5ad105ff1d8463af942b02d85e1a181ff6a5fc9d.jpeg)

Cyclone Fleet Issue: Tootsie’s Privateer

 ![Cyclone Fleet Issue Tootsie's Privateer](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/0/8/c0849300dd94e5d5f292e02917905746af99e385.jpeg)

 ![Cyclone Fleet Issue Tootsie's Privateer 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/3/c/c3c0c4d04c0ded7d3a2c094f43bf732e4057eea3.jpeg)

Caracal: Tootsie’s Experiment

 ![Caracal Tootsie's Experiment](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/8/4/484b2fbed0779763c72e23d1444e25c63711460f.jpeg)

 ![Caracal Tootsie's Experiment 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/4/4/5446328706dc5864d405eb7717f67884656700c4.jpeg)

And ending on a faction warfare note:

Maller: Tootsie’s Experiment

 ![Maller Tootsie's Experiment](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/c/d/ccd641947b6dc24487c7b793d2869634072d40b4.jpeg)

 ![Maller Tootsie's Experiment 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/5/8/75867a4b53400a0bc65848c509b58bb863ed481c.jpeg)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Happy New Year everyone!

Edit: While upgrading my current computer system, I discovered the “Tootie’s” effect is best seen on a high performance monitor. Henceforth, I’ll refer to Tootsie’s skins, as best on 4k hardware. o7

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More Tootsie’s:

 ![Typhoon Tootsie's Privateer](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/8/b/18b36335e25a1439f9fc35696c05d47094bfc7e5.jpeg)

With mouse scroll wheel roll:

 ![Typhoon Tootsie's Privateer 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/8/6/886dfbab50a8b9698b65f3170147b8bb53647399.jpeg)

You’ll probably get tired of reading this, but I’ve a line of recon ship skins I’ll be introducing, so repetition _is necessary._  
The Tootsie’s line of ship skins is dynamic. They can change at the command of your mouse. How they look in the Paragon Hub is under perfect lighting conditions. They will look different in space, and different in _different_ stations (due to lighting conditions), _and, most especially, you can literally change the skin’s look by using your mouse._

I say this not as a joke…buyer beware.

These skins are not static.

Edit: Best viewed on 4K hardware.

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There is before and there is after…

 ![Tootsie's Icons](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/9/f/09f7cab4e6cc794f05672bd5d4ac267c08a41692.jpeg)

They look ordinary. Nothing to inspire curiosity. But, there _is_ before…and there _is_ after; and _this_, is after:

The Astero:

 ![Astero Tootsie's Stars](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/3/8/b38b4e13d9f8507de16ebe24fd2ac2e203a0adb9.jpeg)

It’s one skin. One skin only…

 ![Astero Tootsie's Stars 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/7/a/57ac38e8c890b1631af8f3642357a74ae4f34714.jpeg)

Always changing…

 ![Astero Tootsie's Stars 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/a/e/5ae91fcc7c849c69ff9326248aac6ceed1e923fb.jpeg)

With the light…

 ![Astero Tootsie's Stars 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/8/7/0870f73361490d1a7c64bb805dc28e99567dbce5.jpeg)

With the environment…

 ![Astero Tootsie's Stars 5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/9/5/b95982d97dced721fbf4eb9d9c1334250efc95f1.jpeg)

With each twist of your wrist…

 ![Astero Tootsie's Stars 6](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/7/d/a7d9b5eef40ebaf14d84d98467fc1d3ce697247e.jpeg)

Or scroll of your mouse…

 ![Astero Tootsie's Stars 7](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/9/7/497829ccbf618797031c0d70e3234713e52ef77f.jpeg)  
.

This _is_ the Event’s Horizon:

The Lachesis:

 ![Lachesis Tootsie's Stealth](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/6/5/36589fd101c1126b4c4fb213e31a04cafe215bc1.jpeg)

It has no permanent color placement.

 ![Lachesis Tootsie's Stealth 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/9/4/f942cb28673b96d0b430d3ca9f6cc39886f1377c.jpeg)

The stealth technology required for d-scan immunity disperses light.

 ![Lachesis Tootsie's Stealth 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/5/6/1566e67aa168e0cfeed1f450843dcc63559beb22.jpeg)

There is but a halo…

 ![Lachesis Tootsie's Stealth 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/9/0/790183c02d9ebfe5af54a1145db4a8f65b97a0ae.jpeg)

A whisper of color…

 ![Lachesis Tootsie's Stealth 5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/e/7/8e74d77b5c65931f4b6b09214db0ca6b89d42361.jpeg)

Reminding it’s captain this _ordinary ship_ …

 ![Lachesis Station](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/f/c/efc993d1444899a3a377fb3b63b400598c156913.jpeg)

Is a _combat recon…_

 ![Lachesis Tootsie's Stealth 6](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/4/a/04a28524e494d45ad72a92fd62055e8e986c3b5d.jpeg)  
\*

The Curse:

 ![Curse Tootsie's Stealth](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/d/e/4de8285ac3dc416b1714799b549fd3747983ccb2.jpeg)

The Curse, unlike the Gallente combat recon, was customized…

 ![Curse Tootsie's Stealth 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/b/2/eb2f346c1b2e76f52f560caca80d54c5db90e793.jpeg)

Shifting beams of light dancing across it’s hull…

 ![Curse Tootsie's Stealth 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/d/e/0de632e6eb343489811885dbf8f148237b7b65c0.jpeg)

Are broken by stripes of faith, an expression of it’s owner’s piety, humility, and loyalty.

 ![Curse Tootsie's Stealth 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/4/0/04075ce2c6ce1e1932b6ee8b26431604ac3a4100.jpeg)

It has no permanent pattern outside of it’s bars.  
.

The Huginn:

It looks so ordinary. Tan and brown. Perhaps a hint of black.

 ![Huginn Tootsie's Stealth](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/9/9/699ab90f3814b0ebad9c26dbeaa98a4e6ef286a8.jpeg)

It’s not until the color disappears…

 ![Huginn Tootsie's Stealth 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/1/7/f17c7e84757fa23eebc59ffbc2fb008100cc385b.jpeg)

And only the halo remains…

 ![Huginn Tootsie's Stealth 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/7/8/c7881ac29d695c6a06ea267643f2b5f628d31f86.jpeg)

The opposition recognizes that halo…

 ![Huginn Tootsie's Stealth 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/6/2/362c3762ae0314cca66768108c4623e103ca4bef.jpeg)

As d-scan immunity.

 ![Huginn Tootsie's Stealth 5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/0/0/50082cf7ca0d0ead8cc1fd153cd129e79b097dd6.jpeg)  
.

The Rook:

 ![Rook Tootsie's Stealth](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/4/2/3421d0cbcc027dc23feb6e350f15a547465de117.jpeg)

Well, the Rook looks like a grumpy crab, to be honest. Rumor has it the Caldari actually stole their tech off a drunken obelisk pilot. Word is the pilot got ganked by CODE.; and, vowing revenge, this enterprising individual came up with the idea for d-scan immunity, but failed to account for size. So, tech that would work on a cruiser hull, only partially covered (and the front half, at that) of an obelisk. Too much multi-interfacing I suppose. Anyhow, first trip out with the fancy equipment, he got ganked again. He lost everything. He now does system runs in an itty 5 in Sinq Laison, between Quafe Ultra drinking bouts in a dive bar called The Boom Boom Room.

Anyway, the obelisk salvage got nicked out from under the gank team’s loot scooper by a free lance salvage scrounger, you know, one of those guys that works out of Poch. So, he got this stuff, didn’t know what it was and sold it at bottom basement prices, to a covert Caldari military tech agent working in Aufay. He didn’t know what it was either. The covert military tech agent. But, at least he had the sense to refer it up the line.

Well, you know the Caldari, business, business, business. Once their science guys figured out what they had, they put it to work. No aesthetics (like the Gallente), no religious iconography (like the Amarr), and yet more isk than the Minnies.

They (the Caldari) called it “artistic license”, and had done with it.

It works. Who cares?

The Rook:

 ![Rook Tootsie's Stealth 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/b/d/fbd001bd9296cabd58a4888339d141e2046d117a.jpeg)

Side View, shifting halo:

 ![Rook Tootsie's Stealth 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/5/a/35a869dfde19be9904f1c0356ac859cf62084f38.jpeg)

 ![Rook Tootsie's Stealth 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/4/9/3498efa3936f8b8183027568f4d71db5033f9ade.jpeg)

Still looks like a grumpy crab.

* * *

----These skins are dynamic, they change, they shift. Only thing static about them is the icon.

* * *

So, I’ll leave you with these:

The Afters (along with the Astero up top):

The Thorax: One Skin, One Skin Only

 ![Thorax Tootsie's Stars](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/d/1/fd16d2cb08adb014302dd1879ca357af80ffbb3c.jpeg)

 ![Thorax Tootsie's Stars 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/2/2/c226ec2a014a4b73f59e5f54861835c160daeb1d.jpeg)

 ![Thorax Tootsie's Stars 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/9/c/b9ca060e80b89578464553a3e9db67c1c2a65e7b.jpeg)

 ![Thorax Tootsie's Stars 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/5/d/d5d781266f976102f8df52af7feaae87ef8e3196.jpeg)

 ![Thorax Tootsie's Stars 5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/1/a/b1ad2e0fa0eb36c0998594f40e4bad1f107f3d0e.jpeg)

 ![Thorax Tootsie's Stars 6](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/b/5/db5ec40c392e2acdf83dbc2fd920b91c5c380c41.jpeg)

 ![Thorax Tootsie's Stars 7](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/9/3/093352f0f1d71e18df1c9d8ff11cea0b8d20ef13.jpeg)  
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The Phobos: One Skin, One Skin Only

 ![Phobos Tootsie's Stars](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/f/6/8f6096f322798370b4ea82b75a0a7f030e279caf.jpeg)

 ![Phobos Tootsie's Stars 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/1/e91c70904ef8a73d8f963a46acec7dae3edbc2a6.jpeg)

 ![Phobos Tootsie's Stars 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/c/f/2cf4650ac1635bfc829fdeffc962758de3d8198e.jpeg)

It really is just one skin:

 ![Phobos Tootsie's Stars 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/9/b/89b069d4b35c4c3cbbbdcd1f85e76001169fe52d.jpeg)  
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The Deimos: One Skin, One Skin Only

 ![Deimos Tootsie's Stars](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/2/a/52a601cb71c112c398eafebe0bdbb16627e2804c.jpeg)

It changes, as do they all, with each move of your wrist…

 ![Deimos Tootsie's Stars 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/7/6/776a4c2e29ff11be5412526188721b88683fe8ec.jpeg)

From this…

 ![Deimos Tootsie's Stars 3](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/5/9/d59e9bb37478c9acaff1c980f7dc226bd27504fa.jpeg)

To this…

 ![Deimos Tootsie's Stars 4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/d/2/4d24fd6e4a16bebcea01e7c6536273cdbad3ec15.jpeg)

Those stars, too, actually change color…

 ![Deimos Tootsie's Stars 5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/3/d/33d7a80177e9985a1b92a2997892f683abd265f1.jpeg)  
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And back again…

 ![Deimos Tootsie's Stars 6](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/4/8/8485e4f355cc28fe2b8439bedadb4e7a9b0aa149.jpeg)

o7

Edit: These skins are best viewed on a 4K monitor.

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**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/39 "2025-01-28T19:08:06Z")

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In light of the latest SKINR difficulty:

> [@\[RESOLVED\] 20252801 - SKINR Patterns Offset or Incorrect After Downtime Tuesday 28 January](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/20252801-skinr-patterns-offset-or-incorrect-after-downtime-tuesday-28-january/475272):
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> During downtime today an update was deployed for SKINR which has resulted in some SKINR patterns appearing offset or simply incorrect. We are investigating the issue and hope to have fix deployed in the coming days. Once the fix is deployed all affected SKINs should display correctly. Update at 19:03: Hotfix has been deployed, and the issue should be fixed.

I have decided to pull all of my current listings. I make extensive use of patterns in my designs, and while not all of my designs have been affected enough have that I am not currently comfortable in continuing sales.

Once more information is forthcoming from CCP, I will update this thread.

Thank you for your understanding.

Edit 1:  
CCP has now posted an update stating a hotfix was applied, and the issue is resolved. To the best of my knowledge, this info is inaccurate. I personally have skins with radical color changes, (and have snaps to prove this), and have pattern changes, too.

Edit 2: Photo proof supplied in official CCP thread.

> [@\[RESOLVED\] 20252801 - SKINR Patterns Offset or Incorrect After Downtime Tuesday 28 January](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-20252801-skinr-patterns-offset-or-incorrect-after-downtime-tuesday-28-january/475272/13):
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> I still have skins that are affected negatively. This is not resolved, entirely. I am going through my personal applied skins. I have issues still. Colors are changed, along with patterns. This is the old skin, prior to today’s update. This is the current skin, as I type this: As you can see, the color is quite different. Edit 1: Ishkur (One Eyed Jack version) posted in my sales thread in August should be Beautiful 4 (or the tan Ishkur d…

Edit 3: Additional photo proof, a side by side comparison:

 ![Tinsel](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/1/a/01ae9dc547685bd2e8bfd7dac569b286dada7a4f.jpeg)

The Tinsel design was showcased earlier in this thread. This is a side by side, in game, shot of the Tinsel skin as it appears in the Applied Skins section of SKINR, and what the Tinsel skin looks like applied on the ship in the station after CCP’s “hot fix”.

I’m going to quote myself from the discussion thread, reporting on this. I do want to point out, once again, this is after CCP announced this “hiccup” was “hot fixed”:

> [@\[RESOLVED\] 20252801 - SKINR Patterns Offset or Incorrect After Downtime Tuesday 28 January](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/resolved-20252801-skinr-patterns-offset-or-incorrect-after-downtime-tuesday-28-january/475272/13):
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> Seriously, CCP, with these kinds of differences in execution, after the point of sale, why would anyone continue to invest in SKINR or SKINR products.
> 
> If I buy a skin or make a skin for sale, I want it, the skin, to at least resemble what I put into the SKINR system, originally, six months later.
> 
> After this, hiccup, how can I be sure all the “pinks” won’t become the new “blacks”, six months down the road?

The trouble with these kinds of mistakes comes from lack of “thoroughness”, if there wasn’t living proof in game, maybe I might buy it was “hot fixed”, however as you can see from Tinsel, I can do a side by side and see exactly what’s different. And, I can do it in game.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/design-service-desert-oasis/459549/40 "2025-01-29T21:50:54Z")

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I have posted a thread regarding this “Resolved” announcement here:

> [@This Is Not Resolved - SKINR: This is What I Sold and This Is What You've Got](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-is-not-resolved-skinr-this-is-what-i-sold-and-this-is-what-youvAe-got/475401):
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> CCP is ignoring the SKINR thread, found here: CCP is of the opinion, apparently, this issue is resolved, I disagree. And, as I’m something of a skin “junkie”, (Sere has over 700 skins, lol), and since, I’ve sold quite a number of skins (and CCP put my name and face on the final product), and as I’ve nothing else to do at the moment, I thought I’d create a thread to discuss this situation. It’ll probably get moved; but, currently what you see in the Paragon Hub for sale may or may not be…what…

Given the current situation, I would advise anyone thinking seriously of purchasing a skin through the Paragon Hub to hold off, at the moment.

I cannot guarantee the skin I produce will be accurately portrayed once it is applied in game.

I am certain I am not alone in this.

o7

Edit 1: The SKINR issue was resolved, for me, overnight. I want to publicly thank CCP for addressing this issue in a timely manner. I might have wished for a more forthcoming assessment of the situation; but, I cannot fault them on the result.

So, I’m back listing skins for sale.

o7

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