# Details on forthcoming improvements to compression mechanics **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, release, official\ **Created:** [February 17, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870 "2022-02-17T13:00:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/149 "2022-02-18T20:22:18Z")
> [@Bladacticus](#): > > new belts being made into spread out fields instead of the denser crescents they used to be means the Orca mines out the one or two rocks it can get close to, then has to shut down the core to move (sloooowly) to another one or two rocks and repeat… Being an Orca pilot has gotten very tedious and boring. When did you last mine? This was fixed weeks ago. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmon\_Aliatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shalmon_aliatus/32/392805_2.png) [@Shalmon\_Aliatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shalmon_Aliatus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/150 "2022-02-18T22:44:30Z")
Maybe CCP forgot to add all the variants to the list of items you can compress? ---
**Author:** ![Thotamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thotamon/32/505477_2.png) [@Thotamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thotamon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/151 "2022-02-18T22:47:25Z")
Yeah possibly or could it be classified as Moon ore? dunno porpoise or Rorqual did not do it. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Diomedes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_diomedes/32/288236_2.png) [@Lord\_Diomedes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Diomedes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/152 "2022-02-19T08:19:31Z")
Why doea the Porp only get Ore and Gas?? It should get all just like the Orca and Rorqual, just seems stupid it only gets 2 and both of the other ships get everything. ---
**Author:** ![Elsie\_Duke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsie_duke/32/354768_2.png) [@Elsie\_Duke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsie_Duke)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/153 "2022-02-19T09:32:44Z")
of all the complaints, this is the most hilarious I’m afraid, it’s what every miner has always had to do anyway. Either you have 4 different barges or you have to check your fit before you hit the ice b OH BUGGER _warp drive active_ ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Diomedes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_diomedes/32/288236_2.png) [@Lord\_Diomedes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Diomedes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/154 "2022-02-19T14:54:18Z")
Yea I mean come on, worst case carry a damn mobile depot jeez, not like your cramped for space ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Diomedes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_diomedes/32/288236_2.png) [@Lord\_Diomedes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Diomedes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/155 "2022-02-19T14:56:21Z")
Also can we please get a bigger fleet hangar on the porpoise, I mean come on 5,000 m3 and bothe orca and rorqual get 40k m3, not asking for that much 15 or 20k would be sufficient ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Diomedes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_diomedes/32/288236_2.png) [@Lord\_Diomedes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Diomedes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/156 "2022-02-19T15:11:16Z")
Or could we get maybe 3 different Porpoises that are maybe a little more specialized, like the current Porp(Ore&Gas), then one for Merc&Moon Ore and then one for Ice. Give them Slightly different traits for boosting etc. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/157 "2022-02-19T15:34:50Z")
I think the better route would be to do what all of the non-industrial Command Ships do: The T1 (Battlecruiser) hull is ok at boosting and doing stuff, but it really shines in the T2 version. T2 Porpoise variations for each type of harvesting, with T2 resists and improved storage/performance. Recategorize the Porpoise / Noctis / Primae as ‘Industrial Utility Ships’ and make the T2 versions be the ‘Industrial Command Ships’. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/158 "2022-02-19T19:58:16Z")
The resistance changes will be part of the battleship double bulkhead update. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/159 "2022-02-19T20:02:36Z")
Ccp on TIS said the reason for no Porpoise ice compression was ice production was already high. If i read this correctly they don’t want compressed ice from shattered holes to get on the market and cause price drops due to the higher quantities available. More or less they’re market fixing by not allowing the Porpoise have ice compression. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/160 "2022-02-19T20:10:48Z")
All in space compression does have drawbacks. Ship most have active industrial core. -heavy water fuel cost -reduced highslots for logi/command/tractor/salvage -static due to core deployment timers _(Porpoise 145 seconds)_ Add to that you need multiple compression modules available for each mined resource you might mine. This is not an issue for orca and Rorqual as they tend to be setup for specific mining fleet operations. But the Porpoise that flys into unknown systems has to carry everything so it can reconfigure for ore or gas, and if ccp decide to add ice, the ice module too. So there are many drawbacks for compression in space. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/161 "2022-02-19T20:16:30Z")
No you just need to get a better payment for your services. You increase their mining yields, tank and provide storage. If you’re getting such low isk/hr you’re not valued by the fleet. Remove yourself from the grid and wait for them to realise how much you add to the mining operation. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/162 "2022-02-19T22:53:49Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > The resistance changes will be part of the battleship double bulkhead update. Right Battleships and only battleships! Doesn’t do a dang thing for any other ship in the GAME! ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/163 "2022-02-19T22:58:09Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > No you just need to get a better payment for your services. Nope, CCP needs to provide a better product for my money. CCP Rat took a very health economy and broke it. CCP Rat charged the way to ruin mining and indy. CCP screwed up the risk vs reward for all high players by inflating the prices of all ship beyond the rewards. Don’t worry the predatory monetization is coming, if CCP Rat follows the pattern he started in DUST 514. So ya, a better product for my money is what I need. ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/164 "2022-02-20T00:01:49Z")
there was absolutely nothing remotely healthy about hyperinflation of everything ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/165 "2022-02-20T00:02:48Z")
it would seem stupid to me to give everything to a 115 million isk hull ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/166 "2022-02-20T01:50:11Z")
They needed a buff, but its for mods added to the ship. They had resistances nerfed, they brought them back ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/167 "2022-02-20T03:28:23Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > They had resistances nerfed, they brought them back The resistance nerf to all ship is -25% from what we had before CCP Rat started his plan. The issue I have is the risk Vs reward is not taking into account the inflation that CCP caused. The main issue is CCP Rat has killed mining, killed indy, screwed up the shield tanking of all mining ships, screw up every ore belt in New Eden and cost the game 25-35% of the player base. CCP has been abusing the players/game for 3 years. Just because you are getting used to the abuse does not make it ok for CCP to continue on the road. If things don’t turn around quickly, I would think more players are going to leave! ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870/168 "2022-02-20T03:53:11Z")
I dont see it as abuse. I see them making changes that is not popular for every player, and while some learn to adapt, others choose not to [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/details-on-forthcoming-improvements-to-compression-mechanics/349870.md?page=9)