# Dev blog: Balance Changes Coming In The March Release

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** official, devblog\
**Created:** [February 19, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209 "2018-02-19T14:40:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Stitch\_Kaneland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stitch_kaneland/32/380745_2.png) [@Stitch\_Kaneland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stitch_Kaneland)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/222 "2018-02-21T13:46:32Z")

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+1 launcher than a t1 drake with the same damage bonus (except its omni, not kin lock) and you have a utility high for link/neut. Itll have more damage and better application than t1. Care to explain how itll be worse?

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**Author:** ![Stitch\_Kaneland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stitch_kaneland/32/380745_2.png) [@Stitch\_Kaneland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stitch_Kaneland)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/223 "2018-02-21T13:59:53Z")

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MJD oracles maybe after these changes?

What about apocs? I know theyre more expensive (though t1 BS insurance is really good), but youd get a good tank and could hit out to those ranges easily (esp with lock range buff). Feroxes are big sig targets, so tracking shouldnt be a huge issue.

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**Author:** ![Kaabii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaabii/32/199405_2.png) [@Kaabii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaabii)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/224 "2018-02-21T14:13:40Z")

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the lost shield resistance. more dmg vs dying faster. =w=  
thats the worse thing. i am not a PvPler so i dont care about neut stuff

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/225 "2018-02-21T14:29:59Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Give me an effective beam platform

I just said, the Harbinger and Absolution could use an optimal bonus.

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/226 "2018-02-21T14:33:45Z")

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> [@Stitch\_Kaneland](#):
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> What about apocs?

Yeah but that’s what I said, it’s a battleship. Hence my emphasis on the Harbinger and medium beams.

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/227 "2018-02-21T14:34:43Z")

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Absolution needs a massive cap buff that thing can cap itself out without any help from enemy neut’s xD

About ferox fleet’s, has anyone tried 100mn Hac’s against them? I’m sure rails can’t track that ■■■■. (forgive my ignorance of blob warefare i’m a small gang pilot)

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/228 "2018-02-21T14:35:54Z")

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Shhhhhush!!!111eleven

They are supposed to figure this out by themselves…

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**Author:** ![Stitch\_Kaneland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stitch_kaneland/32/380745_2.png) [@Stitch\_Kaneland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stitch_Kaneland)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/229 "2018-02-21T14:49:52Z")

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You can fit links in that slot, which give shield resistance or increase shield booster effectiveness.

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**Author:** ![Stitch\_Kaneland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stitch_kaneland/32/380745_2.png) [@Stitch\_Kaneland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stitch_Kaneland)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/230 "2018-02-21T14:53:02Z")

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Harb already has one, its just minor. Abso could use it though (or a tracking bonus).

Even with them, idk if you could project damage like a ferox though.

Edit: looks like a harb using aurora with 2 tracking computers using optimal scripts, dual heat sink can do 350dps at 87km. About 65k EHP.

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**Author:** ![Magosian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magosian/32/55735_2.png) [@Magosian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magosian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/231 "2018-02-21T16:26:57Z")

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elitatwo, re-read what I said, or:

At present: Hyperion 75km || everything else ~90km  
Post-patch: Hyperion 90km || everything else ~108km

You understand? 😛

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/232 "2018-02-21T17:12:45Z")

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MJD Oracles? No. ABCs get a lot of dps out of those big guns, but pay for it in tank.

As for Apocs… with the range bonuses coming, Apocs might be a thing. But they’re not a thing for a battlecruiser comp. 😉

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/233 "2018-02-21T17:13:35Z")

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100mn HACs: When you absolutely, positively, want to get bombed because you can’t turn.

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/234 "2018-02-21T17:17:51Z")

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That’s when you have a good inti pilot flying ahead in the direction of align so you can insta warp out if need be, and a good command desi to warp off the bubbles from your fleet if need be.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/235 "2018-02-21T17:27:15Z")

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And when you turn 2-3 degrees to maneuver, your interceptor has to make a pretty large adjustment. Believe me, that whole ‘we’ll just use an interceptor’ thing? Not all that effective. Enemy FC just probes down your inty and warps his fleet to get ahead of you.

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**Author:** ![Stitch\_Kaneland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stitch_kaneland/32/380745_2.png) [@Stitch\_Kaneland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stitch_Kaneland)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/236 "2018-02-21T17:32:19Z")

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Yeah, oracle tank looks to be half of ferox.

Harb with aurora looks to be similar, but still about 5k less tank.

As far as battleships go, theyre the counter to bc’s. To understand what youre looking for, are you looking for a BC to counter the ferox? Or looking for a way to counter the ferox, but do it in a price range comparable to the ferox?

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/237 "2018-02-21T17:34:47Z")

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You can fit your inti with eccm to make it un-probable as well, but yea the 2-3 degree thing can be tricky with those super slow aligns, whole fleet would have to be on point or some will get left behind and die to bombs.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/238 "2018-02-21T17:36:13Z")

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I’m saying that if people want to complain about nullsec groups ‘thinking narrowly’, then there need to be alternatives to the Ferox that can do the job as well as the Ferox with similar skill/isk investment.

So it’s not a _counter_ that’s needed, but a _competitor_.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/239 "2018-02-21T17:37:03Z")

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> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#):
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> You can fit your inti with eccm to make it un-probable as well

Good luck with that against the FC’s virtue-prober CovOps.

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/240 "2018-02-21T17:37:27Z")

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Maybe weapons themselves need to be adjusted instead of the ship’s, rails are in a really good place right now, beam’s don’t compare and arties are great for alpha pretty bad for everything else.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-changes-coming-in-the-march-release/58209/241 "2018-02-21T17:38:22Z")

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> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#):
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> Maybe weapons themselves need to be adjusted instead of the ship’s, rails are in a really good place right now.

Gosh, it’s almost like I’ve been saying that instead of making changes here and there in isolation, everything needs to be taken together as a giant jigsaw puzzle to make sure interactions and cascading effects are understood. 😉

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