# Dev blog: Balance Update With EVE Online: Lifeblood **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [September 11, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569 "2017-09-11T16:03:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CCP\_Phantom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_phantom/32/11746_2.png) [@CCP\_Phantom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Phantom)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/1 "2017-09-11T16:03:04Z")
Brand new details about the recently announced team focus on ships and modules! The team is already working on some specific changes coming this October in the EVE Online: Lifeblood expansion on October 24. In this blog we present balance changes for Tech I Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers. For all the details, please read the [dev blog](https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/)! ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Phantom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_phantom/32/11746_2.png) [@CCP\_Phantom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Phantom)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/2 "2017-09-11T16:03:13Z")
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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/3 "2017-09-11T16:11:03Z")
One question… The arbi is tough for alpha clones as it has such a mixed fit. Yet amarr alpha’s can’t use missiles. Will the arbi see another change to balance for alphas? ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/4 "2017-09-11T16:21:29Z")
Thanks for a well organized and informative blog; like that you explained your reasoning. How about nudging your other teams leaders and encourage them to post a new update? Even a small blog would be appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/5 "2017-09-11T16:23:49Z")
Thank you for nerfing gallente. Glory to the State! ---
**Author:** ![Amarisen\_Gream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarisen_gream/32/296747_2.png) [@Amarisen\_Gream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarisen_Gream)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/6 "2017-09-11T16:25:48Z")
Thanks for the update. Something I was hoping to get off before all the balance. Would it be possible to get a ship in each faction per frigate, cruiser and battleship group? At least one is turret based. At least one is missile based At lease one is drone based. This would also need tweaks for alpha players. On their ships. No rush on this. I just don’t think the weapon system spread is what it should be. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/7 "2017-09-11T16:26:39Z")
Corax. Why bother when jackdaw exists? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/8 "2017-09-11T16:28:24Z")
Arbie missile and stabber rof buffs are a nice touch. Glad to see the vexor/tristan nerf. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/9 "2017-09-11T16:31:13Z")
I think i remember fozzie mentioning doing module tieracide for all remaining weapons during fanfest. Any closer to that? ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/10 "2017-09-11T16:31:25Z")
bellicose +75 pg +40 cpu +75 pg +15 cpu ??? ---
**Author:** ![Tonto\_Auri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tonto_auri/32/388339_2.png) [@Tonto\_Auri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tonto_Auri)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/11 "2017-09-11T16:32:27Z")
Had the same question. ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_taan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_taan/32/381307_2.png) [@Jin\_taan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_taan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/12 "2017-09-11T16:32:53Z")
> [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](#): > > Yet amarr alpha’s can’t use missiles. That seems like an oversight, I’ll talk to CCP about it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_taan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_taan/32/381307_2.png) [@Jin\_taan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_taan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/13 "2017-09-11T16:33:26Z")
> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#): > > Corax. Why bother when jackdaw exists? JD costs 6x the ISK and can’t be flown by Alphas. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/14 "2017-09-11T16:33:47Z")
oh seems they mixed bellicose changes with omen changes this devblog looks kinda drunk posty lol ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_taan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_taan/32/381307_2.png) [@Jin\_taan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_taan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/15 "2017-09-11T16:35:18Z")
Great to see more small, iterative balance updates - this is something the CSM has continually asked for, and it’s directed at the people who need it the most, newer & alpha players. Would have liked to see some more PvE options added to the Minmi lineup as they’re sorely lacking ATM, but this goes a long way to getting us down that road. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/16 "2017-09-11T16:42:29Z")
I didn’t see it was for alphas. ---
**Author:** ![Tonto\_Auri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tonto_auri/32/388339_2.png) [@Tonto\_Auri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tonto_Auri)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/17 "2017-09-11T16:52:40Z")
> [@Jin\_taan](#): > > That seems like an oversight, I’ll talk to CCP about it I do not think it is an oversight. Nobody said alphas must be able to use race’s secondary or thertiary weapon system. ---
**Author:** ![Lulu\_Lunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulu_lunette/32/133822_2.png) [@Lulu\_Lunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lulu_Lunette)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/18 "2017-09-11T16:57:15Z")
Cool. ---
**Author:** ![TrouserDeagle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trouserdeagle/32/420239_2.png) [@TrouserDeagle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TrouserDeagle)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/19 "2017-09-11T16:57:31Z")
autocannon dps is still junk, destroyer speed and durability in the presence of cruisers is still 0, bellicose is still missing a slot. drone kiting is still given no specific attention, and making all drone ships really fat for no reason isn’t very fun. stabber change, the reason its dps is junk is mostly because autocannons are junk. ---
**Author:** ![Erutor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erutor/32/474289_2.png) [@Erutor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erutor)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569/20 "2017-09-11T17:01:15Z")
(How) Do these changes affect the faction versions (e.g. VNI)? [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-balance-update-with-eve-online-lifeblood/23569.md?page=2)