# Dev blog: Black Desert Online makers Pearl Abyss to acquire CCP! **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [September 6, 2018, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942 "2018-09-06T07:56:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 102
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2101 "2018-09-11T14:43:46Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > This is how the in game player ‘selections’ are happening between entities, **with some exceptions** , of course. Money and time investments, local culture, localization, everything matters. Been aroun the world, and main meta everywhere is: No money, no fun … or in Liza Minnelli interpretation: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/6/2/362d24f86b7d8832c454334d7d951f62ead112d8.jpeg "Cabaret- Money") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8P80A8vy9I) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2102 "2018-09-11T14:47:21Z")
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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2103 "2018-09-11T14:47:33Z")
Small conflicts are determined by in game mechanic and ISK, it’s right, while the huge conflicts of Alliances or other big groups of players over long period of time are determined by player’s IRL of those groups. It determines for how long different players will be kept involved into, how much money they can invest to replace the loses, how much free time they have to grind to replace loses (when somebody is placed on zKillborad, it also means that dude just gone rating into belts), how much time will be used into Region camping, for how much some of them will tend to use bots to do it for them, how much they’ll invest in third party tools like blogs, propaganda, sites, applications everything. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2104 "2018-09-11T14:52:01Z")
Goons are funded by SomethingAwful subs. And you cant join Goons without a SA sub. So Goons pay two subs. One to CCP, the other to SA (Goons), plus Goons sucking isk tax and requiring members to comply. ---
**Author:** ![Gneeznow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gneeznow/32/138237_2.png) [@Gneeznow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gneeznow)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2105 "2018-09-11T15:05:25Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > gaming investors Tell me you’re not really this naive, please? > [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > Dude… Hilmar owned 10% of CCP. He’s gonna get 42.5 million USD from his share of the deal. > > And then he can just leave CCP and enjoy his reward for 18 years of CEOing. Not too bad for a guy without any kind of formal studies in business administration Yup, you can bet your life on it, Hilmar and a chunk of other CCPers will wash their hands of the whole thing within 18 months > [@Diarmait\_Hannigan](#): > > CCP stays independent and no real changes are made to EVE Judging from CCP’s ‘’‘’‘expansions’‘’’ the last 2 years that would be a bad thing, they do nothing except +5 pg here and +1 low -1 high there. CCP have not balanced the game properly since the cruiser tiercide about 3 or 4 years ago > [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > So basically the last year of game development has been sacrificed by cutting staff, boosting revenues and investing a bare minimum back into the game to make CCP more attractive to a buyer. Many of us called it. EVE is now officially dead. The only thing left is to remove your credit card information and unsubscribe It’s been like that for about 3 years ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2106 "2018-09-11T15:15:07Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > You just did it again, nowhere did I say I’m in favor of bot’s. Yeah sure… So you didn’t mean you rather have bots around than higher module prices when you said: > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > So the reason for the massive inflation of market prices is due to CCP’s war on bots? Too bad it doesn’t increase mission rewards or rat bounties or the amount of exploration sites. > > I’m not super space rich and I’d much rather have lower prices for modules and minerals then the extremely high prices that are currently in the market. And btw, you don’t do any PvP and only run PvE so why the hell are you crying about module prices? How bad do you have to be to run missions for a decade or whatever and still cry about module prices? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2107 "2018-09-11T15:37:32Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > PvE so why the hell are you crying about module prices? Many DED module prices on market are down by 1/3 to 1/2 since 5yrs ago. You may not be aware of this, but some players run DEDs to raise isk off drop sales, not cos they want the modules for their own use. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2108 "2018-09-11T15:40:43Z")
Read again what I was talking about. He is crying because the modules are too expensive not too cheap. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2109 "2018-09-11T15:44:15Z")
Wow, still trolling for a forum flame war in an attempt to derail this thread. Obviously you fail at Reading Comprehension. You must be so scared that your botting accounts will be discovered that you’re now trying to deflect attention onto others with false accusations. By the way, this game is PvP and even if I don’t log in I’m still doing PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2110 "2018-09-11T15:47:49Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Obviously you fail at Reading Comprehension. You must be so scared that your botting accounts will be discovered that you’re now trying to deflect attention onto others with false accusations. Wow, just WOW! Do you actually think someone is buying this cheap accusation to deflect from the OBVIOUS fact that you are fine with bots because of some short sighted personal gain? This is a new level of pathetic really. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2111 "2018-09-11T15:50:46Z")
What’s pathetic is you constantly starting forum flame wars by posting lies and false accusations. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2112 "2018-09-11T15:51:42Z")
You should really stop posting. Even I blind can see who is lying here. JUST WOW! 😱😱 ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2113 "2018-09-11T15:57:45Z")
Ima, do you bot? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2114 "2018-09-11T16:03:57Z")
Take your own advice and stop posting your lies and false accusations. Your constant attempts to cast suspicion of botting onto me makes you look very guilty. Seriously, your insistence to continue a forum flame war and derail this thread will be flagged. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2115 "2018-09-11T16:06:30Z")
Are you serious? I ■■■■■■■ hate bots. They destroy the game. I would never ever use a bot. I’m pretty sure people whitout a personal grudge and the ability to read can see preatty clearly who is in favour of bots here. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2116 "2018-09-11T16:07:50Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Your constant attempts to cast suspicion of botting onto me makes you look very guilty. I never said you are botting, I said you are in favour of bots which you clearly are ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2117 "2018-09-11T16:07:50Z")
Nice cover story. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2118 "2018-09-11T16:15:33Z")
Clearly you are reading a lot more into what people write then what’s actually written. Back on topic, a lot of people have written that Pearl Abyss has games with lot’s of bots so if anyone favors bots then it’s Pearl Abyss. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2119 "2018-09-11T18:01:29Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > CCP said it raises them money. Best you tell them when you think it doesn’t give them anything. Maybe they’re doing it wrong. General Catalyst and NEA are cashing out their shares…those shares will go to Pearl Abyss, presumably. So that money, at least the bulk of it will go to the venture capital firms. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Back when the log in numbers were between 40 to 60k in-game, how many of those do you think were bot accounts? At that time CCP made lot’s of money and the game constantly grew with huge expansions adding new content for all to enjoy. Since that time the log-in numbers have significantly dropped, more than likely due to CCP’s war on bots. We’ve also seen lot’s of cutbacks and downsizing of CCP along with a definite drop in new content, all probably due to lack of funds. Okay… First off, yes some of those logins were likely bots, just as with today. Could there have been more? Sure if x% are bots, then with say 45,000 log ins we’d have x%\*45,000 vs say x%\*30,000. But do we really want to argue that having bot logins is a good thing? Second do not forget that there was a policy change in regards to ISBoxer how many logins were lost because of that? I don’t know, you don’t know and CCP may not even know. Also changes to skill training might have had an impact too. How much of those logins were simple skill changes/updates? Now I could set months worth of skill training and thus not log in every day–i.e. login for fleets and other fun things. So yes, the drop in logins is worrying. But given these kinds of policy type changes to the game you have what could be considered a “[regime change](http://econweb.ucsd.edu/~jhamilto/handbook_regimes.pdf)” in the words of [James Hamilton](http://econweb.ucsd.edu/~jhamilto/). > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Hell, why do you think Micro-Transactions were added? Why do you think Alpha Clones were added? Why do you think the Investors decided to sell? Because this game stopped being profitable. First off, microtransactions are not such a clear sign of less profitability. It could signal that, but then again even if profits had not declined if introducing such microtransactions boosts profits even higher only a fool would _not_ introduce them. And Alpha clones are probably slightly more indicative of a decline in profitability, but again if it means more profits via microtransactions and it is not necessarily implying a loss anywhere else why not do it even if profits have not declined? And investors sell their shares, investments all the time for a number of reasons. Yes, one is decline in profitability, but the other is opportunity cost. That last one often confuses people so let me explain by way of example. DMC Inc. holds 51% equity in a firm. That equity is worth $100 (the numbers are illustrative, make it $100 million if it makes you feel better). You expect to earn say 10%. So next year you’ll have $110. But you see another investment that you expect to earn a return of 15%. Now, if you stick with your initial investment what is the expected net opportunity cost? $5. That is if you sole your current investment and invest in this new opportunity next year you’d have $115. So $115 - $110 = $5 which is your forgone benefit of keeping your current investment. Since neither you nor I are privy to the inner workings of NEA or General Catalyst we don’t know why they are selling. Could be they see CCP’s future as less favorable, that they see something better, both or something else entirely. As for not being profitable…so you are saying that Pearl Abyss executives are all stupid? > [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > So basically the last year of game development has been sacrificed by cutting staff, boosting revenues and investing a bare minimum back into the game to make CCP more attractive to a buyer. You don’t think a buyer wouldn’t notice this? That you are smarter than everyone that was involved with this decision at Pearl Abyss? > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Botters dont pay to play EVE. Oh God…not this again…somebody is paying. You really don’t grasp the concept of opportunity cost. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > They do sink PLEX, but only to bot more, and harm the game more. They pay for that PLEX with illegally begotten isk/materials. Oh…so they do pay…they pay via PLEX–i.e. somebody else paid the cash and the botter gave that person ISK. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > I’m not super space rich and I’d much rather have lower prices for modules and minerals then the extremely high prices that are currently in the market. The in game CPI is below 100 and has been for a long time. Overall things are cheaper. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > What massive market inflation? > Seriously go and check your facts. There is no significant inflation in EVE. > There are supply and demand fluctuations related to game balance changes and in a few cases major wars also cause a blip on the market. This…the MERs are out there go read them. If you don’t know about price indices you can google them or read about them or you can start a thread here on the forums to discuss them. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Botters dont typically sell mats, they **“mine them for free”** as there is no opportunity cost involved in botting (cos you arent playing, the bot is). They then process them further and sell finished products, as their margins are much higher/wider then via added value. And this is a fine display of economic ignorance. > [@Choking\_Coyote](#): > > There’s much cheaper ways for PA to learn from CCP other than splashing out $425mil to acquire the company. Human capital is hard to acquire without spending money. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/2120 "2018-09-11T18:51:53Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > First off, microtransactions are not such a clear sign of less profitability. It could signal that, but then again even if profits had not declined if introducing such microtransactions boosts profits even higher only a fool would _not_ introduce them. It’s pretty backwards anyway to even suggest that microtransactions where introduced because of dwindling subscription numbers. They where introduced when the subscription where at their peek, we all can remember it, what followed was the summer of rage. It was when CCP instead of fixing the game decided to further monetize it and they lost a lot of trust and subscribers then. Funny how DMC now tries to reinvent history and imply it was the complete opposite. I bet he was even around back then… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942.md?page=101) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942.md?page=103)