# Dev blog: Black Desert Online makers Pearl Abyss to acquire CCP! **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [September 6, 2018, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942 "2018-09-06T07:56:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/284 "2018-09-06T11:19:49Z")
Is it April fools day already? Surely this is a joke thread. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/285 "2018-09-06T11:20:07Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > We had a good meeting with Hillmar this morning, and I’m confident after the meeting that EVE isn’t going to see any massive cultural changes as a result of this sale. We had a chance to ask a lot of questions, and he was forthright and frank with us. I’m not concerned that Pearl Abyss is going to somehow change EVE or push the game in a direction the developers and the rest of us don’t want it to go. > > The speculation is to be expected, but it’s just that. Blah blah blah go home corporate sell off we do not need you here now, real players are in town you can go back to kindergarten … hey hey bye bye … ---
**Author:** ![Rai\_eth\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rai_eth_crimson/32/94908_2.png) [@Rai\_eth\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rai_eth_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/286 "2018-09-06T11:20:12Z")
If the players Love the game so much that they don’t want Pearl Abyss to buy it maybe they should launch a kick starter to buy them out at a price they can’t say no too. Players would own the game they love it would be big news, big publicity. And we could take the game where we wanted to take it. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/287 "2018-09-06T11:20:31Z")
> [@Smartislarti](#): > > CCP tried already. You know Serenity? Sure. Serenity went to become a cesspool of RMT and Botting, to the point that many players left it to play on TQ. They also had little choice other than to create Serenity in order to dip into the Chinese market back then. South Korean market is different in terms of access from the outside and we’ve had large SK corps in EVE for a long time now, as far as I remember, those dudes just being EVE players as everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/288 "2018-09-06T11:20:58Z")
> [@Rai\_eth\_Crimson](#): > > If the players Love the game so much that they don’t want Pearl Abyss to buy it maybe they should launch a kick starter to buy them out at a price they can’t say no too. > > Players would own the game they love it would be big news, big publicity. And we could take the game where we wanted to take it. Lol, get real, a kickstarter for $425Mill. ---
**Author:** ![Zachri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zachri/32/69948_2.png) [@Zachri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zachri)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/289 "2018-09-06T11:21:02Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Cutting costs by ending CSM trips to meet CCP probably among the first to happen. > > “Why not just use video-conferencing?” Oh no. CSM is an incredible marketing asset. It’s a toolbox full of tools which you control for both input and behaviour. That is not something to remove or subject to decrease in resource allocation. You keep it level, they do your work anyway, and since they are by default trapped in a dependancy relation (regardless of whether or not they have detail level gratification fixations, as it is called) they can only ever work for you as a company. Killing CSM as a stakeholder concept was one of the smartest move CCP ever made. Doing it by compromising a player group to do it for CCP while letting that group think they were getting in a position of influence was even more brilliant. It’s a toolbox. It pays for itself. It is cheap. It cannot deviate. It cannot be counterfocused. All you need is a few crumbs here or there. Basically it’s a commercial application of something which carries a bit of bad flavour in terms of behavioural psychology as it has root in what is known as Quisling profiling. Best not go through that door. Anyway, for CCP the CSM is cheap but it pays more than they put in. Combined with the requirement of toning down community services and cracking down on community management the combination is a perfect match for requirements of streamlining the acquisition process. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/290 "2018-09-06T11:21:26Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > How much did Hilmar make off this deal? He had 7 % of ccp , do the math ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/291 "2018-09-06T11:22:44Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > Where does that info come from? "Tomorrow, starting at 16:30 UTC, we’ll also have an AMA on the official EVE Online forums with CCP Falcon and CCP Guard, who’ll be on hand to answer questions. " from Hilmar himself: > **[Black Desert Online makers Pearl Abyss to acquire CCP! | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp)** > > Check out this dev blog from our Hilmar regarding news of the acquisition of CCP Games by Pearl Abyss, makers of Black Desert Online. @Salvos_Rhoska AMA = ask me anything, with CCP Falcon and CCP Guard. If need be, you can show how to salvosh a thread. ---
**Author:** ![Oriella\_Trikassi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oriella_trikassi/32/376749_2.png) [@Oriella\_Trikassi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oriella_Trikassi)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/292 "2018-09-06T11:23:39Z")
I don’t get out much. Black Desert? Never heard of it … Ah, Korean, that explains it. So I went looking for reviews and came across one that spontaneously mentioned EVE Online several times because both games were sandbox rather than storyline driven. Hack and slay exists but it’s not compulsory. We have to hope this isn’t one of those “we shouldn’t be keeping all our eggs in one basket” acquisitions that Hilmar has perhaps been over keen to throw money at in the past. We know the sad tale of White Wolf and we don’t want that to be the fate of EVE! So what’s going to change? ANIME COMBAT AND WAIFU IN STATIONS! Heh. Not anytime soon I would suppose. More Far Eastern players? Now there’s a thing. EVE never took off in Japan and is I would suppose unknown in Korea, there are millions of Black Desert fans Googling EVE right now and, er, it’s English they will have to read. Oh well. If Hilmar wasn’t right more often than wrong we wouldn’t still be here after fifteen years. We’ll just have to cross fingers and hope. ---
**Author:** ![isevisa\_isevisa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isevisa_isevisa/32/175974_2.png) [@isevisa\_isevisa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/isevisa_isevisa)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/293 "2018-09-06T11:23:40Z")
wow [https://youtu.be/b8p16XiPFwk](https://youtu.be/b8p16XiPFwk) tell me the name of this game ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/294 "2018-09-06T11:23:42Z")
> [@Cletus\_Graeme](#): > > If such a “partnership” was so beneficial then why wait 20 years to do it? Developers and owners have disparate, often contradictory priorities. Pearl Abyss didnt exist 20yrs ago, either. Closest original partner, would have been Ultima Onlines, Origin. > [@Cletus\_Graeme](#): > > Then why sell specifically to a company which is as similar as possible in culture and vision to CCP? You just answered yourself, CCP inversely doesnt have the liquidity/value to buy out Pearl Abyss. > [@Cletus\_Graeme](#): > > The owners want something in return for their purchase. > If the company is doing well they may be content with the profits but if they change their minds… The 425mil valuation of this sale, is arguably insanely high. This is a huge windfall for CCP owners/investors. They would have been stupid to not accept such an offer, considering what we, and they, know about EVEs track record and current state of health. Dunno what Pearl Abyss was thinking, perhaps they have too much money and got “scammed” by CCP 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ticondrius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ticondrius/32/497727_2.png) [@Ticondrius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ticondrius)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/295 "2018-09-06T11:24:03Z")
Goodbye, EVE Online. I’ve been here since the exodus from Earth & Beyond. my only regret is that my own company, [http://www.orbital-inc.com](http://www.orbital-inc.com) , won’t have our MMORPG online on time to take advantage of this news. To the community: Keep an eye open for Exodus Galactica. It will be the game we’d always hoped EVE would be, but always fell short of. ---
**Author:** ![Dawny\_Star](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dawny_star/32/379694_2.png) [@Dawny\_Star](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dawny_Star)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/296 "2018-09-06T11:24:27Z")
And next EA see’s the new partnership and buys it… then we have game, set and match. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/297 "2018-09-06T11:24:29Z")
Well, the last years rumors about the future of EVE Online owner just failed - it’s not going to be an EA department! Black Desert Online is frequently criticized of being a way too much P2W even by own gamers. Will Pearl Abyss be involved into the development of EVE in the future? Will EVE be promoted on Pearl Abyss sites for their community or it just an absolute far and independent project? I want to notice something about the BDO community. Since my first MMORPG experience in WOW Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King, I met and I know so many ‘bright’ and skillful gamers with a ‘style’ from those expansions. Many players with a lot of focus, players which practically made no mistakes in 25HC man raids or Arenas, players looking for challenges, great content creators in game or outside game with great videos firstly on WarcraftMovies and YouTube afterwards, similarly to JonnyPew’s videos. Since Cataclysm fail, many of them quit WoW and a big part of them tried Guild Wars, Lineage, Archeage and finally Black Desert Online. Since 2010 it was a big migration from ‘meany’ MMORPGS, from games with virtual toy shops to hard and quality games with a challenge. No matter the BDO issues, I know many of them which are still on that MMORPG and maybe it means something. Finally, now I know from where the expansion **Into the Abyss** come from! ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/298 "2018-09-06T11:24:51Z")
> [@Zachri](#): > > As mentioned elsewhere, best approach here is to leave EVE as it is, and sign up for a month of Black Desert Online. Don’t take any shortcut, just do the regular gameplay grind. Keep in mind, Pearl Abyss is also following the format of boiling frogs, so the curve is still developing (and already they have a hard time marketing damage control). I left eve 7.th July and start BDO, and I am very satisfied when they change EVE to the BDO I may return to Eve ??? ---
**Author:** ![Zachri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zachri/32/69948_2.png) [@Zachri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zachri)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/299 "2018-09-06T11:25:05Z")
> [@Hazen\_Koraka](#): > > Lol, get real, a kickstarter for $425Mill. Getting an abyssmal pearl necklace pays a better part of that more quickly … ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/300 "2018-09-06T11:25:31Z")
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE now we can truely get anime in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/301 "2018-09-06T11:26:19Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > The 425mil valuation of this sale, is arguably insanely high. But we don’t know how much of that is cash and how much of that is in optional boni. “The $425 million includes both cash and a bonus earnout if certain financial targets are met. That’s meant to retain the people in the acquired company. CCP still believes it has a lot of potential in Eve Online, which has gone free to play. The main focus is to rerelease it in China.” ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/302 "2018-09-06T11:26:30Z")
> [@Pier\_Rin](#): > > As long as CCP and Pearl Abyss realize, that the players are eve online and without the players there is nothing!!! They want only paying players not rebelious players, and Pearl does not allow to be blackmailed ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942/303 "2018-09-06T11:26:37Z")
> [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > "Tomorrow, starting at 16:30 UTC, we’ll also have an AMA on the official > EVE Online forums with CCP Falcon and CCP Guard, who’ll be on hand to > answer questions. " Ill see what I can do, but this is already a foregone decision. Unusually, Ill likely just lurk and read what they have to say first. Also, Falcon hates my guts for some reason. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-black-desert-online-makers-pearl-abyss-to-acquire-ccp/103942.md?page=16)