# Dev blog: Introducing Resource Wars

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** official, devblog\
**Created:** [September 6, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455 "2017-09-06T14:11:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nunosh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nunosh/32/378366_2.png) [@Nunosh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nunosh)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/41 "2017-09-06T14:47:40Z")

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Silly question time: how can I join to those missions? dock on any those NPC stations and talk with the agent?

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Affinity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_affinity/32/22282_2.png) [@CCP\_Affinity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Affinity)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/42 "2017-09-06T14:48:09Z")

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There will be more info on ways to join coming soon, but one way is to locate the sites in high sec space 🙂 They will appear on the overview like the event sites

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**Author:** ![Shailagh\_R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shailagh_r/32/12296_2.png) [@Shailagh\_R](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shailagh_R)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/43 "2017-09-06T14:50:15Z")

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L4M need 1 Tank 2 DPS 2 Healers  
For Hisec GANK-PROOF INSTANCED PVE DUNGEON

Lol ccp this is garbage and you know it.

Csm shame on you. Your “feedback” is obviously trash.

Shame on you csm. You are part of the swamp

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**Author:** ![Aspecter\_en\_Welle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aspecter_en_welle/32/356264_2.png) [@Aspecter\_en\_Welle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aspecter_en_Welle)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/44 "2017-09-06T14:54:27Z")

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> [@Shailagh\_R](#):
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> For Hisec GANK-PROOF INSTANCED PVE DUNGEON

Not instance!

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/45 "2017-09-06T14:54:29Z")

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This will be a bitter pill to swallow, as it for the first time breaks the sandbox.

It’s not the same as with keys, as a hunter I’m always carrying the most important keys with me. There is no meaningful way to circumvent a hard cap.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/46 "2017-09-06T14:57:20Z")

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Got to love how judgemental you’re being over this, with the feature overview blog.

You have no idea how people find these sites. You have no idea on the payouts. You have no idea on how many people can be there. But you’re still going to insult us. Good job.

I can think of at least two way to gank people doing these.

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**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/47 "2017-09-06T14:59:59Z")

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> [@Shailagh\_R](#):
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> For Hisec GANK-PROOF INSTANCED PVE DUNGEON

> [@CCP\_Affinity](#):
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> You can always bypass the gates in other creative ways like you currently do if you so wish 🙂

It seems premature to complain that you will be completely unable to sneak into these mining sites. But surely highsec is full of mining ships in easily accessible asteroid belts already? They aren’t mining for LP, but because they want the material they are mining, to use or sell directly. That is the _real_ resource war.

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/48 "2017-09-06T15:01:14Z")

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> [@CCP\_Affinity](#):
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> You can always bypass the gates in other creative ways like you currently do if you so wish 🙂

good enough for me! 😃

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**Author:** ![Shailagh\_R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shailagh_r/32/12296_2.png) [@Shailagh\_R](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shailagh_R)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/49 "2017-09-06T15:02:35Z")

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The dev just said the site “capacity” will work like current gates with keys.

When you scan down a mission ship in say room 3. You warp to the first pocket/room abd must take gates.

Else you try some wild midwarp bookmark insanity and fly for hours or some ridiculous ■■■■.

You cant just probe down a ship in a key-gated pocket and warp there, you warp to the gate that this dev clearly said will inform you that the pocket is “at capacity”

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**Author:** ![Sterling\_Blades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sterling_blades/32/323876_2.png) [@Sterling\_Blades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sterling_Blades)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/50 "2017-09-06T15:02:42Z")

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> [@CCP\_Affinity](#):
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> There will be a max capacity in the site to maintain performance within the sites and also have balanced rewards and not just complete chaos. It’s the same as sites that have keys currently though so this isn’t new. You can always bypass the gates in other creative ways like you currently do if you so wish 🙂

Isn’t bypassing gate restrictions a listed exploit?

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**Author:** ![Shailagh\_R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shailagh_r/32/12296_2.png) [@Shailagh\_R](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shailagh_R)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/51 "2017-09-06T15:03:58Z")

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This dev is obviously ignorant on how this works currently for like mission baiting/ninja salvaging

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/52 "2017-09-06T15:05:00Z")

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Yes it is an exploit … for FW sites: [https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/exploit-notification/](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/exploit-notification/)

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**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/53 "2017-09-06T15:05:15Z")

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Any way to assist the pirate factions? In an actual measurable way, not simply ganking site runners.

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**Author:** ![Sterling\_Blades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sterling_blades/32/323876_2.png) [@Sterling\_Blades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sterling_Blades)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/54 "2017-09-06T15:05:42Z")

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Ah, my mistake.

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**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/55 "2017-09-06T15:05:58Z")

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> [@yellow\_parasol](#):
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> can we have the same for lowsec, but for pirate factions against the empire?
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> how can those with high standings for a pirate faction **help the pirate faction?**
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> thanks! 😃

This. So much this.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Affinity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_affinity/32/22282_2.png) [@CCP\_Affinity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Affinity)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/56 "2017-09-06T15:07:14Z")

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Not with the initial release 🙂

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/57 "2017-09-06T15:08:12Z")

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How about you sit on the gate, and gank as they arrive?  
Or you enter the site before they do, and gank when they turn up?

Or is that too hard for you?

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/58 "2017-09-06T15:08:57Z")

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> [@yellow\_parasol](#):
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> So they fill it up and lock everyone else out… how is that okay?

Because it’s not the only site of its kind?

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**Author:** ![DaOpa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daopa/32/378597_2.png) [@DaOpa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DaOpa)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/60 "2017-09-06T15:12:20Z")

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> **[Dev blog: Moon mining revamped - There’s Ore in Them Thar Moons](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/21?u=daopa)**
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> Suggestion: Include HiSec in the New Moon Mining Changes but only NPC Corps can post up Refineries with the help of players. Make dynamic events for each NPC Corp for players to assist with building up refineries in systems with moons. Once NPC...

Looks like my suggestion was on target… wooot!

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**Author:** ![Manny\_theMiner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manny_theminer/32/436382_2.png) [@Manny\_theMiner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manny_theMiner)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/61 "2017-09-06T15:13:05Z")

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I was hoping this was some kind correction to the broken War Dec mechanic that allows AFK miners to simply drop their Corp and become invincible by hanging out in NPC.

Alas, disappointment continues.

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