# Dev blog: Introducing Resource Wars

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** official, devblog\
**Created:** [September 6, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455 "2017-09-06T14:11:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/62 "2017-09-06T15:14:04Z")

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> [@Shailagh\_R](#):
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> The dev just said the site “capacity” will work like current gates with keys.
> 
> When you scan down a mission ship in say room 3. You warp to the first pocket/room abd must take gates.
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> Else you try some wild midwarp bookmark insanity and fly for hours or some ridiculous ■■■■.
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> You cant just probe down a ship in a key-gated pocket and warp there, you warp to the gate that this dev clearly said will inform you that the pocket is “at capacity”

You’re making a lot of authoritative statements about something they haven’t actually released any specifics about… and making them at people who _already know the things you don’t know yet_. Good jorb, Hamscray. And, not for nothing, but as with:

> [@CCP\_Affinity](#):
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> You can always bypass the gates in other creative ways like you currently do if you so wish 🙂

“The dev” just said that, too. Sounds like maybe you need to actually learn your trade, Shailagh.

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/64 "2017-09-06T15:18:04Z")

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C’mon, why holding back the most important info, how participation will work?

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/65 "2017-09-06T15:21:41Z")

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doesn’t matter, he said there’s ways to sneak in. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gerald\_Mardiska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerald_mardiska/32/55942_2.png) [@Gerald\_Mardiska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerald_Mardiska)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/67 "2017-09-06T15:22:57Z")

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Thank you. Thank you…

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**Author:** ![Shailagh\_R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shailagh_r/32/12296_2.png) [@Shailagh\_R](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shailagh_R)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/68 "2017-09-06T15:23:11Z")

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He said “as you currently can now”

That involves ridiculous bookmarks and doesnt really work.

He is ignorant on current live ninja salvaging/mission baiting mechanics.

I know you may be surprised but the pve dungeon dev may not know all game mechanics

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**Author:** ![Shailagh\_R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shailagh_r/32/12296_2.png) [@Shailagh\_R](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shailagh_R)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/72 "2017-09-06T15:24:12Z")

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Why?

My CSM REPRESENTATIVE JUST LIED TO ME.

He told me i could sit in the pocket and gank.

But the idiot forgot about faction police.

All these ignorant idiots that dont know basic mechanics.

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**Author:** ![Querns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/querns/32/157529_2.png) [@Querns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Querns)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/73 "2017-09-06T15:25:08Z")

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> [@Shailagh\_R](#):
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> Why?
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> My CSM REPRESENTATIVE JUST LIED TO ME.
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> He told me i could sit in the pocket and gank.
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> But the idiot forgot about faction police.
> 
> All these ignorant idiots that dont know basic mechanics.

Please, relax. Faction police are a concern if you let them be a concern. Do the ameliorating work to avoid faction police, and you can do the thing. The CSM isn’t responsible for your poor choices.

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**Author:** ![Shailagh\_R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shailagh_r/32/12296_2.png) [@Shailagh\_R](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shailagh_R)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/75 "2017-09-06T15:26:29Z")

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He told me to sit in pocket and wait.

He is ignorant of basic mechanics.

That is typical of our csm

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**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/76 "2017-09-06T15:26:34Z")

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> [@Icarus\_Narcissus](#):
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> If such a change is announced, I will fully join in the uproar against them. Until such a time, I understand that the crates are simply a means of delivering multiple items from a single LP store purchase.

No they aren’t. It’s well possible (and has been done loads before) to give away multiple things without packaging them in a crate. This is a way to introduce the IDEA of loot crates in an un-assuming way that will not rile people up too early. Later we will get RNG loot crates, that’s just how CCP does business these days.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Affinity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_affinity/32/22282_2.png) [@CCP\_Affinity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Affinity)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/77 "2017-09-06T15:26:58Z")

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These sites are aimed at content that is accessible to anyone. They will be readily available in high sec systems only and the gates will restrict entry based on standings and max participation. Does that mean you won’t come up with ganking opportunities? I very much doubt that. It does mean though that new players coming out of Inception will have places to go either alone, with other new players or with older players to learn and progress so they feel ready to take on the rest of EVE. This is a more engaging, exciting way to learn aspects of the game than through career agents and it helps to more easily form fleets for activities with newer players.

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**Author:** ![Querns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/querns/32/157529_2.png) [@Querns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Querns)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/78 "2017-09-06T15:27:15Z")

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> [@Shailagh\_R](#):
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> He told me to sit in pocket and wait.
> 
> He is ignorant of basic mechanics.
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> That is typical of our csm

Yeah, you’re just being a b` `itch at this point. Come back when you can engage in actual conversation.

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**Author:** ![Gerald\_Mardiska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerald_mardiska/32/55942_2.png) [@Gerald\_Mardiska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerald_Mardiska)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/79 "2017-09-06T15:29:10Z")

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But the question is. How will this effect the player market. Are all the hisec belts across the game going to be “depleted”?

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/82 "2017-09-06T15:30:38Z")

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You mean how will this ore that you can’t refine, that can’t be used for anything except filling up these haulers so you can get LP, affect the mineral market?

I dunno, how does Project Discovery affect the mineral market?

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**Author:** ![Amarisen\_Gream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarisen_gream/32/296747_2.png) [@Amarisen\_Gream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarisen_Gream)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/83 "2017-09-06T15:31:41Z")

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Am I happy that this is limited to HS right off the bat. Yes. But those Pirate structures are currently only in Goon Space in Null.

Give CCP time to fix it. My hair might be white and my nuggets might be old and dried up by that time. This is typical CCP for you.

SISI = Alpha Release  
TQ = Beta Release

Things will get better!

😏

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**Author:** ![Gerald\_Mardiska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerald_mardiska/32/55942_2.png) [@Gerald\_Mardiska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerald_Mardiska)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/84 "2017-09-06T15:32:24Z")

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Point taken. Thank you 😃

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/85 "2017-09-06T15:33:15Z")

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So warp with combat hull, deploy mining drones - kill incoming rats? Sites have to be clear mined?

I don’t know what to think about whole this concept…

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/86 "2017-09-06T15:35:14Z")

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> [@Amarisen\_Gream](#):
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> But those Pirate structures are currently only in Goon Space in Null.

Which ones? The FOBs aren’t in at all yet (and aren’t guaranteed to be a scaled-down EC), and the BR EC spawns in all of null blood raider space. We don’t own all of the space where blood raiders spawn. We own one region. I’m sure the inhabitants of, say, Period Basis, for example? would be pretty amused to hear they live in ‘Goon Space’ (and if you’re going to capitalize ‘Space’ there, at the ALT-153, just to go full on Goon Space™. I mean, at least have some _style_, you know? 😉 )

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**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/87 "2017-09-06T15:36:06Z")

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> [@CCP\_Affinity](#):
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> Does that mean you won’t come up with ganking opportunities?

It’s not just ganking. If a corp can monopolize control of a site, they have a 100% safe place to operate with impunity during a wardec.

Content gated behind gates only accessible by standings and that can be monopolized pretty much creates a perfectly safe space. I guess players are vulnerable en route to the gate, but just to be clear this comes very close if not crosses the line where there is no safe space in New Eden.

Perhaps you guys want to do that now, but I just want to make that point so we are clear on what you are doing.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Affinity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_affinity/32/22282_2.png) [@CCP\_Affinity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Affinity)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/88 "2017-09-06T15:36:13Z")

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The goal isn’t to mine the sites out, it’s to fill the haulers to their max capacity 🙂

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-introducing-resource-wars/22455/89 "2017-09-06T15:37:02Z")

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I’m actually planning on ‘warp in [T1: Venture, above that, Skiff], drop combat drones set to aggressive’ under the same ‘control the adds and achieve the objective’ outlook that pretty much any resource-collection / boss fight uses.

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