# Dev blog: Moon mining revamped - There’s Ore in Them Thar Moons **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [July 19, 2017, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954 "2017-07-19T13:19:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Querns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/querns/32/157529_2.png) [@Querns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Querns)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/81 "2017-07-19T15:21:40Z")
Sorry, but scanning moons a long time ago doesn’t actually give you any experience on how to run a mining empire. You’re just assuming the existence of an infinite amount of organization and manpower, because you’ve progressed past your ability to conceptualize how to actually perform the tasks you’re describing. Thus, you’re just masturbating about something that doesn’t actually exist. Fun, but utterly worthless. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/82 "2017-07-19T15:28:33Z")
When the moon has been exploded to be harvested will that section of the moon spawn back into the moon ore will it permanently be gone? Are there going to be moon material debris fields as a result of some of the ore escaping into space that would then need to probed down and could mined? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/83 "2017-07-19T15:31:48Z")
No, he means all the moons in Delve will ‘randomly’ be terrible. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![John\_AO1Bell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_ao1bell/32/16447_2.png) [@John\_AO1Bell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_AO1Bell)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/84 "2017-07-19T15:34:28Z")
I agree, I would love to find a Bistot Moon in Low Sec even if its in a FW zone. ---
**Author:** ![John\_McCreedy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_mccreedy/32/379136_2.png) [@John\_McCreedy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_McCreedy)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/85 "2017-07-19T15:35:09Z")
It’s not just low sec. Null sec has plenty of small, specialised corporations that are being punished because of this change. Eve is all about the rental empires now. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/86 "2017-07-19T15:35:10Z")
> [@SIEGE\_RED](#): > > Mapping moons is going to take at most a week or two. You’re on crack. As someone who’s done that kind of moon-scanning, you’re looking at at least 2 months for any group to get scans of everything, everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![SIEGE\_RED](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siege_red/32/25316_2.png) [@SIEGE\_RED](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SIEGE_RED)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/87 "2017-07-19T15:36:12Z")
Oh dear, somebody still touching you in a peculiar spot? So you have chosen to continue in making assumptions of which you have no insight, no information, no data, no history, no nothing. Jeez, I wish that would not say something about you, but well, it kinda does. Now perhaps are you open to a normal conversation? There is an actual point to that after all. ---
**Author:** ![Querns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/querns/32/157529_2.png) [@Querns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Querns)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/88 "2017-07-19T15:39:11Z")
> [@SIEGE\_RED](#): > > So you have chosen to continue in making assumptions of which you have no insight, no information, no data, no history, no nothing. Jeez, I wish that would not say something about you, but well, it kinda does. I have plenty of information – the things you’ve said. They’re the remarks of a person with no practical experience with the topics so described. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/89 "2017-07-19T15:40:09Z")
Are there going to be new missions for high sector missions to make them come into null and low to find certain moon material? ---
**Author:** ![SIEGE\_RED](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siege_red/32/25316_2.png) [@SIEGE\_RED](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SIEGE_RED)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/90 "2017-07-19T15:40:31Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > You’re on crack. As someone who’s done that kind of moon-scanning, you’re looking at at least 2 months for any group to get scans of everything, everywhere. The last time we had to redo things it took us (which back then was a group of pos monkey admins from pretty much every block at the time accidentally sharing a channel) just over 3 weeks. In a time where things were quite a bit more subject to upheaval, during which there were virtually no big accords or influence agreements. Sure, over time it became clear that in a few minor spots data was a little bit tainted, but that was marginal at best as all the redundancy and sharing for comparisons had filtered out just about most of that. Maybe two weeks is too tight, but it will really surprise me if this round it will take longer than the last round. Minor edit. That said, a lot will depend on demographics. Summer is being pretty good to EVE, in spite of it being summer. If Fall is different, I hope not. But who knows, maybe there will be actual spontaneous cataclysmic war that will delay people putting their heads together. ---
**Author:** ![Rainus\_Max](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainus_max/32/444844_2.png) [@Rainus\_Max](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rainus_Max)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/91 "2017-07-19T15:48:27Z")
Please can we get something better to do the moon scanning, the warp - align - launch - warp - align - launch is mind numbing. I’d much rather launch the probe at the planet & get moon scans for everything there even if it takes longer to get the results. ---
**Author:** ![FuSiOn\_92](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fusion_92/32/9048_2.png) [@FuSiOn\_92](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FuSiOn_92)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/92 "2017-07-19T15:50:12Z")
What about Syphon units? What will happen to them? How are they gonna be used? Are they receiving a buff? ---
**Author:** ![Tribal\_Trogdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tribal_trogdor/32/215753_2.png) [@Tribal\_Trogdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tribal_Trogdor)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/93 "2017-07-19T15:51:22Z")
They’re going where they belong, into the trash 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/94 "2017-07-19T15:52:15Z")
Syphon Units will no longer function after the patch (and will be suitably dealt with at a later date). The new way to steal moon goo will be to get in there and mine it yourself! ---
**Author:** ![Querns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/querns/32/157529_2.png) [@Querns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Querns)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/95 "2017-07-19T15:52:34Z")
^ wow efb > [@FuSiOn\_92](#): > > What about Syphon units? What will happen to them? How are they gonna be used? Are they receiving a buff? They’re being deleted entirely. You will disrupt moon mining by ninjamining the asteroid fields they make. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/96 "2017-07-19T16:16:54Z")
How about depletion? How about replenishing? Is that even a thing? ---
**Author:** ![Elassus\_Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elassus_herron/32/360332_2.png) [@Elassus\_Herron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elassus_Herron)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/97 "2017-07-19T16:21:49Z")
from the fanfest presentation the drill will leave a visible crater on the moon that replenishes over time (while the drill makes another crater for the next cycle). So an actively harvested moon will have craters of varying levels of recovery. But nothing in any of the blogs or presentations suggested that moons would eventually deplete. ---
**Author:** ![Pleasure\_Hub\_Node-514](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pleasure_hub_node-514/32/381326_2.png) [@Pleasure\_Hub\_Node-514](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pleasure_Hub_Node-514)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/98 "2017-07-19T16:25:14Z")
Cataclysmic breakdown from aggressive moon cracking would be a nifty feature. [https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6882352#post6882352](https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6882352#post6882352) ---
**Author:** ![Mal\_Lokrano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mal_lokrano/32/317221_2.png) [@Mal\_Lokrano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mal_Lokrano)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/99 "2017-07-19T16:29:49Z")
This will make nullsec interesting to say the least, I can imagine fleet pings just for mining now 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Zendon\_Taredi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zendon_taredi/32/9058_2.png) [@Zendon\_Taredi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zendon_Taredi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954/100 "2017-07-19T16:33:42Z")
Why on earth would I buy a structure, anchor it, fit it, fuel it, defend it, only so I can do mining? DOES NOT COMPUTE. Will it make any sense to have these if you can’t Rorqmine? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-moon-mining-revamped-there-s-ore-in-them-thar-moons/10954.md?page=6)