# Dev blog: New Chat Backend Coming With The March Release **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [February 21, 2018, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715 "2018-02-21T11:11:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CCP\_Explorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_explorer/32/385081_2.png) [@CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Explorer)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/41 "2018-02-21T17:38:58Z")
> [@Lothar\_Mandrake](#): > > This should be interesting, lol. All Amazon, Google, etc… domains are blocked at my workplace. A lot of things wouldn’t work then since the Launcher and all Download on Demand is hosted on AWS. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/42 "2018-02-21T17:50:56Z")
Since XMPP does use certificates, can you use your sso token to allow corp / alliance channel access? ---
**Author:** ![Natasha\_Bloodrage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natasha_bloodrage/32/36893_2.png) [@Natasha\_Bloodrage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natasha_Bloodrage)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/43 "2018-02-21T18:00:56Z")
Does this mean that Tidi will be less straining on the server as it doesent have to account for all the chat? giving us a better experience in large fleet fights? ---
**Author:** ![Galileo\_Shihari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galileo_shihari/32/415221_2.png) [@Galileo\_Shihari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galileo_Shihari)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/44 "2018-02-21T18:03:32Z")
This is a great back-end change. I look forward to your solution, and of course do keep a close eye on bugs. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/45 "2018-02-21T18:11:39Z")
Log on SiSi and take a look. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/46 "2018-02-21T18:12:40Z")
Nope. Amazon do AWS. If they were stealing their customer data for use, there’d be a total shitstorm over it, and people would flee the service. There’s not even been a whisper of it happening. ---
**Author:** ![Retro\_Fusion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/retro_fusion/32/423918_2.png) [@Retro\_Fusion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Retro_Fusion)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/47 "2018-02-21T18:45:38Z")
Sounds like a good step to be taken here, Will it also be possible to group types of people in the list of peeps in local, Like group, show/hide people blocked, hide peeps in your fleet from local or other demographics, so users can manage to clean up the local list. like the over view window. ---
**Author:** ![Yoggy\_NA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yoggy_na/32/41442_2.png) [@Yoggy\_NA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yoggy_NA)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/48 "2018-02-21T18:50:33Z")
Players live across the globe with vastly different ISPs and internet conditions. How are you going to mitigate the ping difference to the main cluster and AWS instances? I am concerned this change might cause de-syncs between the main game and chat contents. ---
**Author:** ![Boris\_Agnon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boris_agnon/32/156623_2.png) [@Boris\_Agnon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boris_Agnon)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/49 "2018-02-21T19:02:58Z")
Are third party clients allowed to connect to the XMPP server? Or is that still a no-go? ---
**Author:** ![OutCast\_EG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/outcast_eg/32/55990_2.png) [@OutCast\_EG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/OutCast_EG)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/50 "2018-02-21T19:36:06Z")
What stops me from firewalling connections to the chat cloud and ceasing to appear in people’s locals? (Unless local will no longer be based only on chat.) ---
**Author:** ![unimatrix0030](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/unimatrix0030/32/146357_2.png) [@unimatrix0030](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/unimatrix0030)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/51 "2018-02-21T19:51:10Z")
Would this be a step into a future where we would be able to move the chat windows outside of the eve-client window? I can imagine that corp leadership would want to use an extra screen to put all the chat windows. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Explorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_explorer/32/385081_2.png) [@CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Explorer)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/52 "2018-02-21T20:15:19Z")
> [@OutCast\_EG](#): > > What stops me from firewalling connections to the chat cloud and ceasing to appear in people’s locals? (Unless local will no longer be based only on chat.) Answered here: [Dev blog: New Chat Backend Coming With The March Release - #24 by CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/24) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/53 "2018-02-21T20:15:32Z")
Chat’s a _lot_ less latency dependent. I could inject a second into the times for chat, and I doubt anyone would notice. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/54 "2018-02-21T20:16:15Z")
The chat server gets notified about your actions. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Explorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_explorer/32/385081_2.png) [@CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Explorer)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/55 "2018-02-21T20:16:52Z")
> [@Boris\_Agnon](#): > > Are third party clients allowed to connect to the XMPP server? Or is that still a no-go? Not in this first round. ---
**Author:** ![Boris\_Agnon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boris_agnon/32/156623_2.png) [@Boris\_Agnon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boris_Agnon)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/57 "2018-02-21T20:31:25Z")
> [@CCP\_Explorer](#): > > Not in this first round. NP! Looking forward to eventually being able to play around with this, the use-cases are endless! :parrot: ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Snorlax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_snorlax/32/14543_2.png) [@CCP\_Snorlax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Snorlax)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/58 "2018-02-22T00:03:15Z")
Yes, we are confident. ---
**Author:** ![Sweetness\_Sideways](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sweetness_sideways/32/56059_2.png) [@Sweetness\_Sideways](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sweetness_Sideways)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/59 "2018-02-22T00:36:10Z")
If its hosted all of it at UK, ICeland of where-ever, distance still will be bad for some, better for others… Kind of a non-issue still… ---
**Author:** ![Sweetness\_Sideways](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sweetness_sideways/32/56059_2.png) [@Sweetness\_Sideways](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sweetness_Sideways)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/60 "2018-02-22T00:38:10Z")
+1, 3rd party chat would be amazing. Less need for 3rd party IRC/other chat protocol, just have the channels and have/use eve auth on a user based login. ---
**Author:** ![Hong\_Hu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hong_hu/32/148525_2.png) [@Hong\_Hu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hong_Hu)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release/58715/61 "2018-02-22T02:05:40Z")
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