# Dev Blog: October Balance Pass! **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [September 17, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917 "2018-09-17T15:07:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/815 "2018-09-18T07:32:33Z")
> [@MrJordanIOI](#): > > Ok- so people complained they have no chance when being ECM JAMMED. > So they need to get a chance. > CAn you please leave a chance to those flying the actual jam ship as well ? > > E.g. The ONE BEING JAMMED can SHOOT at the JAMMER but NOT SCRAM or MID SLOT HIM ? > > Because - a lot of us save their asses by jamming an attacker, then leg it. > How absurd is that ? > I make a successful jam attempt in my hauler and then the bogey I just jammedm keeps scramming me ??? > > Sorry - why not make it so that when your cap gets neuted to 0 you can still activate modules on the guy who neuted your ship ?? > Same logic. > > Allow a limited set of options to the one who was jammed - fine - but make sure he cant use a scrambler or disrupter anymore. > CAuse- that is a big application of jamming. > > Thanks for your consideration! Don’t you get that this is MEANT this way? This is the first step(of many) to push back pvp into the nishe where it belongs. The times of a way to see the game is dominating the style of the game are over since the sell. That’s what this is all about… You don’t believe it? Well you will in the months and years to come… ---
**Author:** ![Ryac\_Sampaio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryac_sampaio/32/12034_2.png) [@Ryac\_Sampaio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryac_Sampaio)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/817 "2018-09-18T07:46:35Z")
As a simpler solution, you could make the changes only affect the 500MN MWD and not the 100MN AB? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/818 "2018-09-18T07:47:59Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/819 "2018-09-18T07:48:07Z")
Removed some off topic posts. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/820 "2018-09-18T08:18:18Z")
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**Author:** ![Trea\_Martin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trea_martin/32/79838_2.png) [@Trea\_Martin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trea_Martin)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/821 "2018-09-18T08:30:20Z")
huuuuu yeah @CCP_Falcon ,don’t you think that you can wait for a solution for wormholers instead of pushing that HIC nerf? Just so you know, we use HIC on a daily basis to roll our static, so removing that option is just gonna push us away from the game, since we won’t be able to close crit holes without getting trapped on the other side… I’m not gonna complain about wormholers being second class citizens, but damn, can’t you try at least to work on that module fast? Cause we won’t wait a year for you to figure a solution. a lot of paid subscriptions are gonna fleeing the W-space with that kind of irrespect for your community… ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/822 "2018-09-18T08:31:33Z")
> [@Ildrara](#): > > Alliance leadership gets money from cheaters. Cheated money trickles down to all the members in one way or another. (Eg sovereignty, system upgrades, etc) All members are cheaters. Oh jeez. If that’s how I works I should be really careful cause I’ve got a Planet Fitness membership. One of the other members could be a bank robber or a murder after all and I don’t wanna go to jail. Anywho remember how this all started because you were adamant that that CCP did not support HIC rolling in wormholes and you were wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Sorxas\_Foule](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sorxas_foule/32/117184_2.png) [@Sorxas\_Foule](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sorxas_Foule)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/823 "2018-09-18T08:45:20Z")
Fix the cloacky campers!!! stop focusing in things that already work, and do something about one guy who can be afk 24/7 cloaked with a cover cyno ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/824 "2018-09-18T08:46:49Z")
im looking forward to simply using two falcons and laughing my ass off if anyone tries to counter by jamming either of them… Honestly not very well thought out, most of the ‘issues’ that stem from ecm use is solo pilots when faced by a gang? this ‘fix’ likely wont really resolve that. And sov nul blobs complaining about needing to field proper comps instead of blobs? ---
**Author:** ![Lug\_Muad\_Dib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lug_muad_dib/32/14084_2.png) [@Lug\_Muad\_Dib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lug_Muad_Dib)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/825 "2018-09-18T08:53:32Z")
You can’t use covert cyno when AFK, if not afk it’s working as intended, so where the problem ? ---
**Author:** ![grenville\_averti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grenville_averti/32/264006_2.png) [@grenville\_averti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/grenville_averti)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/826 "2018-09-18T08:55:22Z")
Please make all fleet interceptors capable of sub-two second align. Under the proposed change to nullification a Caldari pilot would have no travel 'ceptor option. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/827 "2018-09-18T08:56:05Z")
no safety wrap i need to be covered in lots of little air filled pockets when i leave the house… ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/828 "2018-09-18T08:57:10Z")
This is madness ---
**Author:** ![michaeltward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michaeltward/32/376087_2.png) [@michaeltward](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/michaeltward)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/829 "2018-09-18T09:13:50Z")
Ok this update is ■■■■■■ all over I have a problem with just about everything here for good reason. Not going to mention captor changes as I have never faced the ceptor menace in null. 1.ECM I agree this needs fixing but this is not it as you have just ■■■■■■ over soooo many play styles of it. Griffin Navy solo…gone. My Dual ASB Rook…gone. And what about burst jammers? Well they are useless now…like actually completely useless. Let’s use my Rook as an example. Pilgrim neuts out cap super fast to eliminate tank and dps. Arazu nukes lock range so they are unable to target me or my fleet mates. Rapier Web’s out at long range to prevent brawlers getting close. Rook prevents drones and high dps capless gun targets from doing dps. Now on the above each one has it’s uses and I have all 4 and use all 4 at various times. However if this change goes through I am going to be selling my Rook as it will be next to useless for attacking people in wormholes. The reality is if this change goes through all ecm ships need brawler ship’s level of tank eg my Rook needs the tank of a Cerberus or more to have any chance of living in a fight. And what about Citadel ECM? That is going to be truly ■■■■■■. 2.Hic’s. I think this has been raged about enough already you need to sort rolling HIC’s BEFORE!!! this fix can happen. It’s that simple. 3.Demavik. Oh…2 mid’s isn’t enough?..I’m shocked. But what makes you think 3 lows is enough for an armor tanked frigate. I needs another mid but it can’t loose that low slot. Give it that other mid without removing the low slot. You guys rely far to much on moving slots rather than just straight up removing or adding them. Over all it seems this has not been thought out at all you need to sort your ■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Kaoraku\_Shayiskhun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaoraku_shayiskhun/32/144449_2.png) [@Kaoraku\_Shayiskhun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaoraku_Shayiskhun)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/830 "2018-09-18T09:15:18Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > But this doesn’t make this ECM change a bad idea, it actually makes it a great idea. Yes, that make this ECM change a bad idea. Even if the cycle would be shorter, and after a succesfull you cannot activate on the same target for 2 cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Skiarh\_Gebbeth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skiarh_gebbeth/32/97127_2.png) [@Skiarh\_Gebbeth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skiarh_Gebbeth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/831 "2018-09-18T09:24:15Z")
Yeah, the use of the Imperium News website as the official channel for CSM communications Is pretty disappointing. ---
**Author:** ![Sophia\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sophia_mileghere/32/381201_2.png) [@Sophia\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sophia_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/832 "2018-09-18T09:27:40Z")
An easy soultion that would make all happy with the HICs: Do not allow an active bubble and MWD at the same time. Just don’t let the module activate while the other one is running. This would satisfy the majority of 0.0 and WH residents. ---
**Author:** ![z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rella_zazzmataz/32/96427_2.png) [@z0rella\_Zazzmataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rella_Zazzmataz)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/833 "2018-09-18T09:30:33Z")
sure ya coward, whatever makes ya feel better while ya keep hiding and playing meatshield for CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/834 "2018-09-18T09:36:02Z")
CSM being accused of favouring NS groups they made something like that? Brisc is RL politician? It’s like RL politician being accused of lobbying and on denial press conference perform with lobby corp logo on his/her back. WTF? ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917/835 "2018-09-18T09:40:01Z")
> [@Erin\_Endo](#): > > In my opinion jamm shouldn’t break all locked targets. It should reduce number of maximum locked targets, with minimum of 1 target. It’s will be better than you can lock Falcon which stay away of you in 50-70 km. That is what sensor damps do… which is what will be used instead of ecms… EDIT: Mistake, they only decrease range of lock… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917.md?page=40) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-october-balance-pass/106917.md?page=42)