# Devblog: Community Fittings now available in the EVE Online client **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** feedback, official, devblog\ **Created:** [September 26, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501 "2019-09-26T16:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/1 "2019-09-26T16:47:56Z")
![community%20fittings](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/f/0fb267d6d1879aa915998a941401a78e36e869c5.png) Take a look at [this dev blog](https://www.eveonline.com/article/pyg6mq/community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client) for information about the new Community Fittings feature that has been added to the EVE Online client and how you can contribute! ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/2 "2019-09-26T17:02:46Z")
Nice! You could take this a lot further, check out the 2nd reply here: [It's Rocket Science!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/its-rocket-science/190546) ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/3 "2019-09-26T17:04:17Z")
Glad this is finally happening! Some fittings are going to be obsoleted and need to be updated, when tier-a-cide starts up again. ---
**Author:** ![JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juur_zibaoo/32/375053_2.png) [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/4 "2019-09-26T17:08:51Z")
@FC_Convict wow one sec here please “We’re already on the lookout for more submissions, starting with basic PvP fits for tech 1 frigates and fits for T1 destroyers that will be able to tackle the Sisters of EVE epic arc.” PVP fits for the SoE epic arc? … PVE or PVP ?? JuuR ---
**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/6 "2019-09-26T17:11:37Z")
Our ISD volunteers will be reviewing existing fits in the tool as well as adding new ones. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/7 "2019-09-26T17:12:01Z")
It’s PvP fits for tech 1 frigates as well as PvE fits for destroyers to tackle the SOE epic arc. I’ll make it a bit clearer in the blog. Words are hard. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/8 "2019-09-26T17:25:55Z")
I also want to thank CCP for rolling this feature out before the Winter update. Will - or is - the fittings filter active by default, for new players? ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/9 "2019-09-26T18:00:35Z")
For the sake of newbros, please ditch scanners from venture fits… add more tank (MSE) instead. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/10 "2019-09-26T18:21:33Z")
It’s a good idea, but the ones you have in right now are… lacking. For example: the Starter Heron has 1 salvager. The T1 has 2. Of all of the exploration frigs, _only_ the T1 Heron’s got 2. All the rest have empty high slots with plenty of fitting room left over. Even when you add the Starter Venture in (because the Tech 1 Venture has its highs full), they’ve all got plenty of room. The Starter Venture’s the tightest, CPU-wise, with 120 CPU and 12.4 PG left. And that’s with a fresh, just-out-of-the-box alt, having trained the Racial Frigate 1 + Astrometric Rangefinding 2 (or, in the case of the Starter Magnate, Energy Grid Upgrades 2) that they need to actually fly the fit. And none of the Starters even have _rigs_. You don’t need _any_ skills to use rigs now. There’s no reason to leave them off of ‘starter’ fits. They’re also trying to do too much. The ‘starter’ and ‘tech 1’ exploration frigates were advertised as exploration frigates to let newbies do explo in high, low, _and_ null… all three. Same with the Starter and T1 Venture fits. Leaving aside the issue of bubbles, these fits are toast if they go into Low/Null. The toughest of them is the T1 Venture, and it’s also the slowest. If you’re sending new players into low/null to do exploration, give them the ability to run away. The T1 Probe, at least, fits a pair of warp stabs, but it’s gonna blow up as soon as someone locks it. And what maniac designed that T1 Imicus? A Small ‘Accommodation’ Vestment Reconstructer I? Seriously? you’re putting a small armor repper onto a T1 frigate where the only tank mods area DCU (which means the best resists are in the **Hull** ) and a Mark I Compact Power Diagnostic System. I mean, look, I get that some Gallente ships get a local armor rep bonus… _but the Imicus is not one of them_. So you’re keeping it down at 2700m/s (500m/s slower than the Magnate, and 200m/s slower than the _Heron_. Seriously, this ship is being outrun by the _Caldari_. That’s embarassing) **and** killing the capacitor life with that armor repper. It’s only got 22s of cap life with that thing and the MWD running. New pilots are the ones most likely to forget to turn that thing off to rebuild cap. Get rid of it. Replace the lows with 3 Type-D Nanos, and that Imicus becomes the fastest of those four hulls, and it’s _still_ got just as (much?) tank as the others. If you really absolutely feel like you _need_ to saddle newbies with that local repper, replace the DCU and PDS with a pair of EANMs. At least then the resists are in the armor… they _suck_, but they’re in the armor. But for the love of dog, don’t send new players into lowsec or null in those things. You might as well be chumming the water. ---
**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/11 "2019-09-26T18:24:26Z")
By all means if you feel you have better fits than what are currently in the client please submit them in the [Community Fittings forum](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/eve-information-portal/community-fittings) and they may find their way into the game. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/12 "2019-09-26T18:27:15Z")
You’re not going to get decent fits if you’re trying to give people ‘one fit does it all’ ships. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/13 "2019-09-26T18:34:28Z")
Ah. So another EvE area that new players would learn from other players and doing their research taken over by the game. Great… ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_sanzen_in/32/479635_2.png) [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Sanzen_in)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/14 "2019-09-26T18:36:38Z")
This is need so much for morons like me that after 7 years in eve still don´t know how to do a proper damn fitting because im an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/15 "2019-09-26T18:39:46Z")
The community fittings idea isn’t a bad one. New players need to be shown that there’s a way _to_ learn. And having the game give them a step up with some examples and some basic do’s and don’ts is not a bad idea. Getting players talking to one another is always going to be one of the hardest things for the game to do, though. Especially in highsec, where most players tend to _not_ directly engage with the wider community. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/16 "2019-09-26T19:20:12Z")
And _most_ people are terrible^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h not good at fitting ships. The question “Does anyone have a fit for [insert ship here]?” is very common. This is teaching by example The fitting warning is teaching by rules. Both are good 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![H3llHound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/h3llhound/32/187173_2.png) [@H3llHound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/H3llHound)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/17 "2019-09-26T20:27:00Z")
Great feature especially for new players. I am sure it will help them out to fit their ship. Please dont include fits which include Warp Core Stabilizers 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/18 "2019-09-26T21:01:03Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Starter Venture in (because the Tech 1 Venture has its highs full), they’ve all got plenty of room. The venture is broken until CCP give it the ability to fit 3 mining lasers, just like the picture on the launcher was showing shortly after I started playing eve again > [@Arrendis](#): > > And none of the Starters even have _rigs_ . Rigs cost more than the ship, I was always discouraged by veterans to not fit smaller stuff with rigs outside of PvP fits. > [@Arrendis](#): > > If you’re sending new players into low/null to do exploration, give them the ability to run away. The T1 Probe, at least, fits a pair of warp stabs, but it’s gonna blow up as soon as someone locks it. That’s definitely false advertising to label t1 exploration fits to be suitable for low/null use. Wish CCP would do a better job of messaging and controlling expectations. > [@Arrendis](#): > > And what maniac designed that T1 Imicus? A Small ‘Accommodation’ Vestment Reconstructer I? Seriously? you’re putting a small armor repper onto a T1 frigate where the only tank mods area DCU (which means the best resists are in the **Hull** ) and a Mark I Compact Power Diagnostic System. I mean, look, I get that some Gallente ships get a local armor rep bonus… _but the Imicus is not one of them_ . When I was in null the number of times someone would fit a X-L shield booster and have about 20 seconds of capacitor and the CEO would say “you’re not cap stable, it will cycle about three times and then you’ll cap out” the response would be “I’ll pulse it”. LOL. > [@Arrendis](#): > > New pilots are the ones most likely to forget to turn that thing off to rebuild cap. New pilots aren’t going to even know the ramifications of loosing 25% of your cap from just fitting a MWD either. > [@Arrendis](#): > > But for the love of dog, don’t send new players into lowsec or null in those things. You might as well be chumming the water. CCP just wanting to keep their awesome player retention rate. Do you even wonder if the starter ships just aren’t balanced, but nobody cares because they’re “starter” ships people won’t be in for long? > [@FC\_Convict](#): > > By all means if you feel you have better fits than what are currently in the client please submit them in the [Community Fittings forum](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/eve-information-portal/community-fittings) and they may find their way into the game. Better yet, join corporation that knows how to fit ships, rather than expecting good fits for free? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/19 "2019-09-26T21:57:41Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > Rigs cost more than the ship, I was always discouraged by veterans to not fit smaller stuff with rigs outside of PvP fits. No they don’t. Heron: 345k Probe: 291k Imicus: 255k Magnate: 370k 2 T1 Gravity Capacitor rigs (The ones they’re slapping on the ‘T1’ fits): 128.8k Heck, the complete T1 Magnate fit comes in at 877k, only about twice what the base hull costs. The real expense comes in the modules. (Also, the Compact MWD in the Imicus costs 880k on its own). > [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > When I was in null the number of times someone would fit a X-L shield booster and have about 20 seconds of capacitor and the CEO would say “you’re not cap stable, it will cycle about three times and then you’ll cap out” the response would be “I’ll pulse it”. The trick is, with shields it’s usually an Ancillary… and as long as you’ve got cap boosters in it, it doesn’t use Capacitor at all. > [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > New pilots aren’t going to even know the ramifications of loosing 25% of your cap from just fitting a MWD either. No, they’re not, which is part of why they’re more likely to not think ‘I need to turn off the repper so I can keep running away’. > [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > Do you even wonder if the starter ships just aren’t balanced, but nobody cares because they’re “starter” ships people won’t be in for long? The T1 scanning ships are pretty well-balanced, in fact. They’re not amazing ships, but they’re just T1 frigates. ---
**Author:** ![Miulan\_Ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miulan_ng/32/167268_2.png) [@Miulan\_Ng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miulan_Ng)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/20 "2019-09-26T22:06:03Z")
IMO making these suggestions directly available in the fitting window is very helpful to new players- nicely integrated and efficient. ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501/21 "2019-09-26T23:19:42Z")
Let’s teach the community how to finally properly fit a maller! thank you. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-community-fittings-now-available-in-the-eve-online-client/192501.md?page=2)