# \[Devblog\] Equinox Mining Balance, Philosophy and Learnings - Devblog Feedback Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [February 28, 2025, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088 "2025-02-28T12:51:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/183 "2025-03-06T23:04:29Z")
The hull cost is 5x that of a fitted Hulk, but it has 20x times the ore holding capacity. Like I said, it would only provide more incentive to solo AFK, no matter the cost… ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/184 "2025-03-06T23:05:18Z")
I guess it depends on the Region. It’s really hard to AFK mine in most areas in high-sec. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/185 "2025-03-06T23:07:19Z")
Again, regardless of the AFK aspect, the Orca is mining FLEET command ship. You can’t even sit in one without having trained fleet command skills. That is its purpose. It is not, and was never intended to be, a solo mining ship… ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/186 "2025-03-06T23:07:38Z")
Yes, well - things change. There’s a lot of “solo” gameplay these days - even if multiboxed. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/187 "2025-03-07T00:38:14Z")
Multiboxing is not soloing, it’s just what people do who don’t have friends online. Solo means one ship and one pilot. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/188 "2025-03-07T00:38:40Z")
Solo can mean anything from one ship to multiple ships controlled by the same player. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/189 "2025-03-07T00:42:01Z")
In the context of MMOs, soloing is doing things alone and not multiboxing. If a dungeon is soloable, it means only need one to do it, no fleets, no parties, etc. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/190 "2025-03-07T00:42:44Z")
Solo means one player, one ship. Multiboxing, which can also be done “solo”, you will still be part of a fleet, even if it’s with yourself. ---
**Author:** ![MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milint_arc_trooper/32/475857_2.png) [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MILINT_ARC_Trooper)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/191 "2025-03-07T06:34:06Z")
Well, there is a rather inefficient…comparatively…concept. BCs and Command Dessies can be used for mining fleet boosting. And factoring in comman dessies can boosh the miners closer to ships or structures. ---
**Author:** ![MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milint_arc_trooper/32/475857_2.png) [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MILINT_ARC_Trooper)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/192 "2025-03-07T06:39:32Z")
I remember back in 2020…the day after Scarcity started…I got to experience a Rorqual [ironically in Tabbetzur] this was the old system. So a Rorqual had to deploy, and then you access the deployed Rorquals fleet and compression bay. You had to fly up and then do it. Most miners kept MWDs/ABs…and if you coordinated…you could mine within the warp to rules. [150km+] Also boosts could be reset off grid and “carried” to the mining situation. There was a lot of options to the problems in game. But that usually isn’t discussed. Basically the modern arguments are based around a deadset concept of simplification which has unintended consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/193 "2025-03-07T16:22:47Z")
> [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](#): > > I remember back in 2020 Wow right when you started playing the game 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/194 "2025-03-08T03:34:04Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > But that would mean CCP would have to acknowledge that they had a bad idea. Fixed it for you. 🤣 One of many bad ideas… ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/195 "2025-03-08T09:44:48Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > with fleet boosts, a hulk can what?? reach up to 45km…damn that is practically the entire belt in most HS sys from the center of it, sometimes the entire range end to end I’m in a HS belt right now. I have one rock 95km away in one direction and another 100km away in the opposite direction. So… not all belts are tiny. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/196 "2025-03-08T11:35:34Z")
Guess you’re gonna need 2 industrial command ships for that belt… ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/197 "2025-03-08T12:50:23Z")
Or you… move. I know, it’s a strange concept, but Mining ships _CAN MOVE_. There is a button in the UI that allows even mining ships (even Orcas!) to speed up and change location (usually called “moving”). So if you begin at one end of the belt and every once in a while move a bit to the other side, voilá, you can mine the whole belt with a single command ship and a bunch of miners. You can also use _bookmarks_ and rewarp to reposition the command ship within the belt. Any Asteroid can be used as warpin point. Great, isn’t it? But wait, maybe thats all way too complex and inconveninent. Porpoise and Orca should have a Boost Range of 1000km and Mining ships a Laser Range of at least 950km! CCPlease! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![New\_toon\_10001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_toon_10001/32/447161_2.png) [@New\_toon\_10001](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_toon_10001)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/198 "2025-03-08T13:31:01Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Porpoise and Orca should have a Boost Range of 1000km Lol dont say that as they will want it back like the old days when orca didnt even have to be on grid to boost. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/199 "2025-03-08T15:26:32Z")
If you ask them, they will probably want an automated belt-drill that they can buy on an NPC-station (so it can’t be attacked) for solo-usage, which farms all belts in the system 24/7 and beaming the ore directly into their personal hangar. Ah… no. Directly to Jita! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/200 "2025-03-08T15:48:18Z")
Just like gankers wanted to be able to PvP on an Alpha account. Everyone wants something for free without having to work for it. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/201 "2025-03-08T16:03:27Z")
Huh. I didn’t realize ships could **move**. What a novel concept! I must try that out sometime… ---
**Author:** ![MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milint_arc_trooper/32/475857_2.png) [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MILINT_ARC_Trooper)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088/202 "2025-03-08T17:46:41Z")
Coughs you guys are not remembering that the Hulk with Harvest implants in…can hit…33 [nominal]-35 km[Halcyon Y-5 in] ORCA boosting the Hulk is about 60km-75km [Halcyon Y-5 in] However. The Rorqual…wait for it…boosts the Hulk to 86km-95km [Halcyon Y-5 in] And remember the Roqual is capable of boosting ships over a 216km range. This is maximum ranges that I know of currently. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-equinox-mining-balance-philosophy-and-learnings-devblog-feedback-thread/478088.md?page=11)