# Devblog: Final Statement Brisc Rubal Follow Up Investigation **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog, csm\ **Created:** [April 25, 2019, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998 "2019-04-25T12:17:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Apollyon\_Sazaz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apollyon_sazaz/32/122325_2.png) [@Apollyon\_Sazaz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apollyon_Sazaz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/209 "2019-04-25T23:38:26Z")
Better then a Therapist. ---
**Author:** ![Whitenight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitenight/32/384851_2.png) [@Whitenight](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitenight)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/210 "2019-04-25T23:42:02Z")
Freeeedooom !!! also #freenolak ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/211 "2019-04-25T23:49:37Z")
Stunt’s ban wasn’t for ONE lame out-of-game joke. [A GM clarified that publicly, for Stunt\_ on reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/99e2o7/were_the_ccp_game_master_team_ama_about_customer/e4n0wfp/?context=3) ---
**Author:** ![Fynn\_Saraki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fynn_saraki/32/209886_2.png) [@Fynn\_Saraki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fynn_Saraki)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/212 "2019-04-26T00:31:03Z")
I think so. #FreeGigX and ■■■■ the Imperium. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/213 "2019-04-26T00:37:07Z")
So uh, you know what would be worse than railroading a CSM and a few players out of the game based on bad information? Not punishing the people who created the bad information, and not punishing those who acted on it. So if you are thinking you somehow showed “integrity” in the system, think again. ---
**Author:** ![AMARR\_KUNNNI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarr_kunnni/32/36497_2.png) [@AMARR\_KUNNNI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AMARR_KUNNNI)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/214 "2019-04-26T00:47:54Z")
so here another question how many people have been banned by ccp that were never investigation or were told why they got banned for company that like to blacking someone name public and then say sorry we ■■■■■■ up I think ccp need to change their rules on why people get banned and those people need investigated proper I lost my faith in ccp I thought ccp respected their player but after this I don’t think they do and another think why is there no response from ccp on THIER FORUMS but reply on redit? ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/215 "2019-04-26T00:50:04Z")
“We take full responsibility for any confusion and mistrust caused by our initial assessment of the situation.” Which is great, but **any** trust I (we?) had in CCP is now gone, and I don’t see how you can get that back. Un-freaking-believable. > [@CCP\_Falcon](#): > > Given the nature of this announcement, please remember to keep discussion civil As soon as I find my pitchfork it is **so on**!!! Regards, Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Julia\_Arinin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julia_arinin/32/276135_2.png) [@Julia\_Arinin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julia_Arinin)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/216 "2019-04-26T01:05:34Z")
Uh - You and about 5000 Others… 🤑 ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/217 "2019-04-26T01:17:00Z")
> [@Ram\_Askaari](#): > > R.I.P. CCP’s Credibility FTFY 🙂 > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Yeah, I was giving them the benefit of a doubt. Well there will be no more of that from now on. > [@Awkward\_Pi\_Duolus](#): > > They hired someone who knows what they are doing to draft this one. Then gave it to Falcon to post? Regards, Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/218 "2019-04-26T01:23:58Z")
It was a 50/50 witch hunt from the start. It’s all still speculation without more info. Until we hear from Brisc himself, and how much info he can, or is willing/allowed to give. I’ll just wait till then. If nothing else, it was an Excellent PR stunt! 😉 Edit; I also want to hear from Brisc himself on how to improve the CSM after this. ---
**Author:** ![Ophelia\_MiBalls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ophelia_miballs/32/130913_2.png) [@Ophelia\_MiBalls](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ophelia_MiBalls)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/219 "2019-04-26T01:24:55Z")
To be honest, CCP banning first and doing investigation second is good. Although, the PR of this was not handled well by them. Props for CCP admitting their mistakes and trying to make changes to how they do things in future. it shows they are growing up as a company. ---
**Author:** ![Mintaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mintaki/32/222030_2.png) [@Mintaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mintaki)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/220 "2019-04-26T01:30:52Z")
This could have been avoided, but now that it’s all gone through these stages I find myself more interested in what, if any, actions will be taken against the people who threw this “information” at CCP? Ultimately it was their fault for their handling of it, but someone is culpable for the original slander and misinformation that they pandered off to CCP. This is EVE’s version of Trump/Russia collusion. lol. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/221 "2019-04-26T01:35:26Z")
> [@Hun\_Tra](#): > > Well that was a wild ride. Not sure it was worth all the wasted manhours reading 3 devblog threads that didn’t even need to happen, tho… talk about a wild goose chase. ---
**Author:** ![Kovl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kovl/32/130911_2.png) [@Kovl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kovl)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/222 "2019-04-26T01:37:13Z")
You guys do realize CCP simply wanted the stink to end and potential problems to avoid ? Whether the guy was or wasn’t innocent is in this context nearly (or completely) irrelevant. The guy was simply too problematic, so they let him off hook. You don’t seriously believe in sudden CCP’s honest work attack, do you ? For an “average Joe” EvE player nothing would have been done. And nothing will be done. Nor you should expect any _serious_ clarifications/announcements and/or punishments handed - though they might find some scapegoats to throw you to eat them and some sleazy extra PR produced - still leaving everyone scratching their heads in the end. I wouldn’t expect employees to face anything - or hear anything about it - should that unlikely happen. Some of you say +/- “but now my trust in CCP is gone”. Uhhh … “now” ❔❔❔ ---
**Author:** ![Mei\_Geng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mei_geng/32/231758_2.png) [@Mei\_Geng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mei_Geng)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/223 "2019-04-26T01:37:37Z")
A free skill injector and I would feel ever so much better…just a few key strokes and some pixels, easy ---
**Author:** ![Manfred\_Sideous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manfred_sideous/32/188865_2.png) [@Manfred\_Sideous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manfred_Sideous)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/224 "2019-04-26T02:00:50Z")
@CCP_Falcon I wonder if CCP ever made this same type of mistake with any other CSM’s 🤔 Or maybe when a witchunt proved unfruitful just invented another arbitrary reason. ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/225 "2019-04-26T02:13:58Z")
Mistakes happen. Please just do a good job of making it right. I vote that he gets a golden magnate or something. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobal81/32/442118_2.png) [@Kobal81](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobal81)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/226 "2019-04-26T02:30:24Z")
■■■■ CCP, Fire all those involved… ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/227 "2019-04-26T02:33:08Z")
Jeez dont do that. Just make it right and be overly generous about it. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobal81/32/442118_2.png) [@Kobal81](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobal81)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998/228 "2019-04-26T02:33:52Z")
■■■■■■■ a crack whore on 5th ave without a condom is a “mistake” losing an “I-Hub” is a mistake, CCP got meta’d from a CSM member and now CCP is too ■■■■■■■ stupid to not see that they are being meta’d, because they don’t play their own ■■■■■■■ game. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-final-statement-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/154998.md?page=12)