# Devblog: Interim Statement on Brisc Rubal Follow-up Investigation **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog, csm\ **Created:** [April 17, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360 "2019-04-17T15:31:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Drenan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drenan/32/195550_2.png) [@Drenan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drenan)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/269 "2019-04-19T17:06:01Z")
Free The Mittani… ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/270 "2019-04-19T18:11:07Z")
> [@Kaoraku\_Shayiskhun](#): > > And then you would cry there why there is no info aboout it, what about the transparensy. > > If somebody stupid enough to promo himself in a game with his real life, then it is not CCP’s fault that his ban become viral Who cares about crying? But it is entirely CCP’s fault in publishing a direct (and unnecessary) accusation against a real human of breaking a legal contract with them. There are consequences to careless, and potentially injurious public speech like that. They could, and should have been more circumspect about asserting what they did. CCP is accountable for their speech and actions like everyone else. The autocratic control CCP likes to assert in-game has limits, and those limits are rapidly reached when real customers and their reputations are the subject of CCP’s words. ---
**Author:** ![Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lorelei_ierendi/32/190833_2.png) [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lorelei_Ierendi)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/271 "2019-04-19T18:40:07Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > CCP has to take extra steps to be seen as being fair, or at least trying to be fair, or trust evaporates and everything comes tumbling down. I gave up on the more transparency with permaban thing back after the CSM 10 election. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Asanari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/david_asanari/32/290615_2.png) [@David\_Asanari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/David_Asanari)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/272 "2019-04-19T19:30:10Z")
No, just because the CSM members were voted for, it doesn’t make them more important. The CSM membership requires more maturity, thought and responsibility from them, for their own action. It does not mean they are above the law (EULA). In fact, their treatment should be more strict and punishment more harsh, because of their status. Because they represent the community and because they broke the trust of the people who voted for them by playing a foul game. ---
**Author:** ![Entity\_Stonadis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entity_stonadis/32/171775_2.png) [@Entity\_Stonadis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entity_Stonadis)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/273 "2019-04-19T22:48:14Z")
I wholeheartedly agree, CSM doesn’t represent shiet. ---
**Author:** ![Alcarne\_Xero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alcarne_xero/32/204296_2.png) [@Alcarne\_Xero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alcarne_Xero)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/274 "2019-04-19T23:23:56Z")
Brilliant litmus test of what the community thinks of CCP. Game devs whom can’t please their community; realeasing changes detrimental to fun **Verses** US political lobbyist with a drastic level of narcisism and a flamboyant writing style _points at the W-Space dwellers_ You know, this should be an opportunity for you players to push for someone who ACTUALLY represents you. ---
**Author:** ![Butt\_Cigar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/butt_cigar/32/131787_2.png) [@Butt\_Cigar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Butt_Cigar)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/275 "2019-04-20T02:09:51Z")
Conducting a ‘thorough investigation’ _after_ dishing out the punishment. You can’t make this stuff up. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin\_Dogguide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kevin_dogguide/32/61354_2.png) [@Kevin\_Dogguide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kevin_Dogguide)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/276 "2019-04-20T02:43:03Z")
What you are describing is making a losing case to the courts. A case that will tie up an already backlogged judicial system with frivolous claims; a waste of taxpayer money (judges, justice of the peace officers, court stenographers, etc.), and delaying hearing cases worth merit. You should try to make that argument to the innocent people waiting to have a fair trial in a courtroom, or families/victims waiting for justice. ---
**Author:** ![Entity\_Stonadis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entity_stonadis/32/171775_2.png) [@Entity\_Stonadis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entity_Stonadis)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/277 "2019-04-20T10:13:13Z")
No one in their right mind cares about the elite RMT speculation leaks club that the CSM really is. ---
**Author:** ![Nysta\_Miityew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nysta_miityew/32/132401_2.png) [@Nysta\_Miityew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nysta_Miityew)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/279 "2019-04-20T11:22:53Z")
> [@Quantum\_Science](#): > > Plus i’m sure they could get some nice publicity for being the first “democratic game” Oldschool Runescape already has a voting system for members. Devs suggest a change and members get to vote yes/no/skip. 95% of suggested changes get voted in though and it’s a bit of a joke among players that devs know their poll system is broken and do their best to keep it that way. [http://services.runescape.com/m=poll/oldschool/archive.ws](http://services.runescape.com/m=poll/oldschool/archive.ws) ---
**Author:** ![Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lorelei_ierendi/32/190833_2.png) [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lorelei_Ierendi)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/281 "2019-04-20T21:57:49Z")
> [@Entity\_Stonadis](#): > > No one in their right mind cares Thanks for that damning judgement of my mental health… If you look really hard… you can see CCP taking some of those things there kind of seriously. Even if you do “not care” you have nothing to lose by placing a vote come election day. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/282 "2019-04-20T22:12:03Z")
[Opinions of the misinformed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6htcLwR5jE) is a song by CCP. Enjoy it while reading through these posts. That aside, It is great to hear the investigation is on the way and if there was unjust bannings, this will be corrected. We all make mistakes, some of those posting above should try and understand the irony of their posts. Thank you, CCP for being professionals. PS: If there is a ‘clear and present danger’ action can be taken before the judgment. It is nice to see the investigation uncovering the inconvenient truth. #WeStandWithBriscRubal ---
**Author:** ![Beta\_Maoye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beta_maoye/32/140122_2.png) [@Beta\_Maoye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beta_Maoye)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/283 "2019-04-20T22:24:02Z")
As a gamer, I would like to see the game company can focus its energy on designing, building and testing the game I love to play. It is such a waste of precious resources when the game company has to deal with politics and legal matters arising from an pseudo democratic mechanic when some of its players bite back. The game company should review and evaluate the pros and cons of CSM and see how CSM should be restructured or simply be gone. EVE is a great game for gamers, but it is more than enough to see this kind of politics going back and forth between some players and the game comapny in the past few years. ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/284 "2019-04-20T22:30:30Z")
Someone snitched on Brisc, someone who would win from his dismissal and account closure, the csm are friendly to each other but with daggers on their back. And I also think CCP handled this situation very badly, like you put this guys banning on a pedestal and claimed ‘we did it we are champions against cheaters’ and celebrated on reddit with no subtlety and lack of professionalism on CCPs part, it was the media controversy you guys were after all along as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Temp\_Mabata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/temp_mabata/32/126971_2.png) [@Temp\_Mabata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Temp_Mabata)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/285 "2019-04-21T03:45:58Z")
You need to check his post where he wants to sell a rorq character, so much fun there, lol. ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/286 "2019-04-21T05:33:24Z")
I’ll handle the northern US translation for you. I’m sorry, but i’m gonna havta ask ya to calm down okay bud? Maybe pick up somethin potable from the market to cool yerself off eh? ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/287 "2019-04-21T05:34:35Z")
Uhm. The tranquility server is in the UK. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/288 "2019-04-21T05:50:04Z")
You forgot to preface that with ‘I’m sory, but…’ ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/289 "2019-04-21T05:51:43Z")
Fixed. Bit rusty since I moved to southern Minnesota. ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/290 "2019-04-21T05:57:49Z")
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