# Devblog: Interim Statement on Brisc Rubal Follow-up Investigation **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog, csm\ **Created:** [April 17, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360 "2019-04-17T15:31:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/355 "2019-04-23T17:23:34Z")
> [@Wompie](#): > > I agree with what you said, however, courts have overturned many cases where the EULA was the core issue. EULA is not legally binding anymore due to precedents set pretty recently. It is… but only in parts that are not contradicting the law. ---
**Author:** ![Wompie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wompie/32/133535_2.png) [@Wompie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wompie)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/356 "2019-04-23T17:39:41Z")
EULA is not a binding contract. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/357 "2019-04-23T17:43:00Z")
I really don’t know what to post in this thread. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BDVannessa\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bdvannessa_lsg/32/128854_2.png) [@BDVannessa\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BDVannessa_LSG)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/358 "2019-04-23T17:44:45Z")
And do not, this theme is too complicated for you 🤣🤣🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/359 "2019-04-23T17:56:37Z")
You remind me a lot of Dom. ---
**Author:** ![NINA\_GOLDDIGGER](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nina_golddigger/32/99113_2.png) [@NINA\_GOLDDIGGER](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NINA_GOLDDIGGER)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/360 "2019-04-23T18:00:52Z")
> [@Bono\_One](#): > > have presented any _ **person** _ in a false light, Dude Brisc Rubal is not a person he is a anonimous avatar in a space pixel game. The fact that he decided to link RL to this game was his doing not CCP. there is no difamation what so ever… Good luck selling this to a Juge… that would cause a precedent and then anybody who ever revel there RL id in any online forum would them be completely protected from any diffamation for ever. That would mean the end of this comunity and the beggining of a long list of action being lauch from all side to anybody that played this game and many other… I think this was just blowned out of proportion. I wish nothing bad to all party no mather the reason loosing all your asset and being ban from something you put so much time into suck big time! Its the Nature of eve to abuse the mecanic what ever they are… Suck that the penalty is so tuff for this But at one point you got to own up to what you did…and accept life! ---
**Author:** ![BDVannessa\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bdvannessa_lsg/32/128854_2.png) [@BDVannessa\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BDVannessa_LSG)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/361 "2019-04-23T18:21:49Z")
> [@NINA\_GOLDDIGGER](#): > > Suck that the penalty is so tuff for this But at one point you got to own up to what you did…and accept life! IRL things not going like that, CCP screw it big time and now have to pay 😂 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/362 "2019-04-23T19:36:50Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > and again, im fairly certain he must be as i cant actually see ccp banning him without proper cause; that just seems too retarded to believe tbvh. > 100% sure? no, not in the world we live in. Too retarded to believe? Umm, this is CCP we’re talking about, and from this ‘Interim Statement’ they posted, it seems they may have actually acted prematurely without first validating evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/363 "2019-04-23T19:43:58Z")
Not at all. It means people are presumptuous. There were at least two others that were banned also. But thats exactly whats so frustrating about many of the comments here, certainly about him being guilty or not guilty and involving lawyers?? really?? wtf like there are huge leaps and bounds from conjecture into blind faith and then utter fantasy. Just write ‘‘ha get rekt scrub’’ and move on 😛 Like that bono one guy… where did he come from O\_o ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/364 "2019-04-23T20:23:17Z")
> [@NINA\_GOLDDIGGER](#): > > he is a anonimous avatar Not true. Brisc’s RL face and identity were linked to his account before the CSM election. Doesn’t matter who originally put that linkage in the public sphere, what matters is that it _existed_ prior to CCP making a statement they were under no obligation to make. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/365 "2019-04-23T20:36:11Z")
> We have also been conducting an internal review to substantiate the evidence available to us and evaluate our handling of the situation. We intend to share a full follow-up statement next week. That right there is the controversy, that those steps should have been done first before actually releasing that first Dev Blog. What is really disconcerting about this whole situation is that the very first Dev Blog basically implied their actions were warranted due to undeniable evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/366 "2019-04-23T21:37:15Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > first Dev Blog basically implied their actions were warranted due to undeniable evidence. Exactly where my minds conundrum is stuck. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/368 "2019-04-23T23:33:45Z")
Real world politicians should not be part of any gaming CSM team. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/369 "2019-04-23T23:41:42Z")
I fail to see why not tbh ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/370 "2019-04-23T23:47:20Z")
Why would a failed real world politician need to find his place in the political world within the construct of a sci-fi game? ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/371 "2019-04-23T23:50:33Z")
He isnt a failed real world politician, thats actually his job in the real world; i think he handles litigation stuff but i really dont recall. Something to do with maritime laws. ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/372 "2019-04-24T00:36:24Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > Something to do with maritime laws. And boats are really just spaceships on water… waterships, if you will, so it all kinda makes perfect sense! Regards, Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/373 "2019-04-24T00:43:00Z")
Ya im calling judge judy, see if she can come sort all this out! ---
**Author:** ![Viirilithizu\_Ward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/viirilithizu_ward/32/294932_2.png) [@Viirilithizu\_Ward](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Viirilithizu_Ward)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/374 "2019-04-24T01:14:53Z")
He is a lawyer and lobbyist from what I read. Lobbyists in the US are people paid to influence politicians on behalf of the company or group they represent. He has also run for office unsuccessfully, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/375 "2019-04-24T01:32:39Z")
Googled lobbyist. Now he just sounds worse than before tbvh. " _Lobbying_ , persuasion, or interest representation is the act of attempting to influence the actions, policies, or decisions of officials in their daily life" “A _lobbyist_ is an activist who seeks to persuade members of the government to enact legislation that would benefit their group.” [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360.md?page=19)