# Devblog: Interim Statement on Brisc Rubal Follow-up Investigation **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog, csm\ **Created:** [April 17, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360 "2019-04-17T15:31:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/105 "2019-04-17T19:22:24Z")
Goes to show cry enough and CCP will appease you ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/106 "2019-04-17T19:23:52Z")
simply put. they didnt. > [@Wompie](#): > > CCP reported which could be classified as just that – a report. At no point was any link indicated by ccp between brisc rubal and any persons alive or dead. You can continue to believe what you want, doesnt make it true though. ---
**Author:** ![Wompie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wompie/32/133535_2.png) [@Wompie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wompie)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/107 "2019-04-17T19:24:27Z")
They didn’t what? ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/109 "2019-04-17T19:27:49Z")
> [@Bono\_One](#): > > It didn’t take me more than 5 google links down to find his home phone number, and that of his office in Maryland, Are you briscs stalker then? ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/110 "2019-04-17T19:28:01Z")
So…since we all agree that any disputes arising from our playing EvE will be settled in accordance with Icelandic law before we start into the game…might that not affect things in this case? Also, wouldn’t “CCP committed a very serious crime” be an affirmation at least bordering on…slander… at this point? ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/111 "2019-04-17T19:29:04Z")
I dont think hes read the eula either. ---
**Author:** ![Bono\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bono_one/32/113565_2.png) [@Bono\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bono_One)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/112 "2019-04-17T19:30:25Z")
The EULA doesn’t eliminate law. ---
**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/113 "2019-04-17T19:30:39Z")
I hope this guy doesn’t get any special treatment for being a lawyer… I mean if they found out he wasn’t guilty sure bring him back. If he’s guilty and corrupt even if it’s an unintentional leak he should remain banned permanently imo. It’s strange though, because if they had damning evidence to warrant a lifetime ban, what could have surfaced that would change that? But yeah this whole episode is gonna make the CSM seem even less trustworthy. Everyone’s got their own agenda. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/114 "2019-04-17T19:32:26Z")
Im sure its not as all bad as what people are making out; pretty damn sure if brisc wants to take legal action in court he wont ever play the game again either - if thats even what he would want, who the 'k knows… except bono, bono was there; hes a witness… ---
**Author:** ![Pandoralica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pandoralica/32/374133_2.png) [@Pandoralica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pandoralica)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/115 "2019-04-17T19:34:17Z")
Even though i didn’t want to comment on anything i feel the need to stop your little train right now. Nobody is being sued and everyone involved is trying to handle the situation professionally. CCP is responsible for mistakes they made but they also deserve the credit if they correct those mistakes openly and nobody should claim they only did so because of some lawyer threatening bs. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/116 "2019-04-17T19:36:17Z")
As long as goons cry loud enough you and your buddies will be unbanned ---
**Author:** ![Bono\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bono_one/32/113565_2.png) [@Bono\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bono_One)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/117 "2019-04-17T19:36:34Z")
He should not get any special treatment agreed, but he does have an advantage of being an attorney. He doesn’t have to hire one. That’s a major hurdle for crime victims all too often. As far as the permanent ban of his accounts, that is also illegal as courts of the world are tending to sway in the benefit of the creators of in game content. A EULA can state that the in game content is all owned by them, but when you get down to legal terms the in game content created by the paying player is owned by the paying player. Multiple court cases have decided this in multiple countries. EULA is not law. Anyway, that’s getting a tad off topic. I hate seeing this as I hate to see one of my countrymen illegally assaulted by a company I have paid so much to, for all too rare time to play. I need to go check my planetary interaction. Cheers everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/118 "2019-04-17T19:36:59Z")
Dude the characters in game are CCPs property. If your son lends someone his action figure, then takes it back, then destroys it later that night and tells his friend, is that grounds to sue? It’s his action figure he can do whatever he wants with it. ---
**Author:** ![Bono\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bono_one/32/113565_2.png) [@Bono\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bono_One)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/119 "2019-04-17T19:39:07Z")
[Pandoralica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pandoralica) Oh so your ban in this doesn’t cover the forums? Awesome! Thank you for letting us know that no one is being sued. So CCP is going to correct this then? You, being one of the 3-4 banned along with Brisc Rubal for “whatever” should know better than the rest of us. Have they unbanned your account yet? ---
**Author:** ![Bono\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bono_one/32/113565_2.png) [@Bono\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bono_One)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/120 "2019-04-17T19:40:49Z")
Tell that to the international courts whom have decided in favor of in game content creators. It’s the normal now. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/121 "2019-04-17T19:42:16Z")
what? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/122 "2019-04-17T19:43:11Z")
Oh dear: “As should be expected, we will issue a full and frank apology for any mistakes for which we are responsible, as well as provide appropriate reparations to those affected by any erroneous actions we’ve taken.” CCP managed to blunder a delicate situation yet again. Bunch of incompetent idiots; all of you. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/123 "2019-04-17T19:45:06Z")
nono they handled it right, ban people first; then investigate - its the normal way 😛 I must say though if brisc is inoccent he should be reinstated and those that accused him should be named, shamed and kicked from the csm themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/125 "2019-04-17T19:47:34Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > I must say though if brisc is inoccent he should be reinstated and those that accused him should be named, shamed and kicked from the csm themselves. Absolutely. However much I dislike the guy if he didn’t do what they banned him for he should be reinstated and some at CCP should look for another job and the ones that accused him be banned instead. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360/126 "2019-04-17T19:47:37Z")
you should see him trying to sell a rorqual toon lol [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-interim-statement-on-brisc-rubal-follow-up-investigation/153360.md?page=7)