# Devblog: Preparing For The Future – Retirement Of Captain’s Quarters & Twitch Integration

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Created:** [July 12, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940 "2017-07-12T13:56:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/849 "2017-08-28T15:08:05Z")

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umm that one is easy. money? not sure how much, but some

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**Author:** ![900V](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/900v/32/137214_2.png) [@900V](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/900V)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/850 "2017-08-28T19:13:41Z")

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“Compiling a 64-bit client has been held back by the outdated middleware that was needed by captain’s quarters.”

Ok. Guys, they didnt develop the backbone code of eve because of the ozone hole.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/851 "2017-08-28T19:27:25Z")

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But… but EVE is even older than CQ was. Its even programmed in “old Python”.

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**Author:** ![900V](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/900v/32/137214_2.png) [@900V](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/900V)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/852 "2017-08-28T19:50:07Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> But… but EVE is even older than CQ was. Its even programmed in “old Python”.

Exactly what i meant in my troll reply

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**Author:** ![tasman\_devil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tasman_devil/32/432430_2.png) [@tasman\_devil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tasman_devil)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/853 "2017-08-28T19:50:44Z")

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> [@900V](#):
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> “Compiling a 64-bit client has been held back by the outdated middleware that was needed by captain’s quarters.”
> 
> Ok. Guys, they didnt develop the backbone code of eve because of the ozone hole.

hehe, that is a good one… Here is another one:  
“they wanted to wait with the implementation till the sun is blocked out by the moon over the US” 🙂

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**Author:** ![900V](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/900v/32/137214_2.png) [@900V](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/900V)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/854 "2017-08-28T19:54:07Z")

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> [@tasman\_devil](#):
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> the sun is blocked out by the moon over the US

US and US ONLY! why? Because if it happened over anyother place too, then they cant implement their super secret plan!!

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**Author:** ![Ptraci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ptraci/32/18349_2.png) [@Ptraci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ptraci)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/855 "2017-08-28T23:51:59Z")

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Now that the Captain’s Quarters is gone - can CCP finally tell us what was supposed to be behind the door?

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/856 "2017-08-29T00:20:11Z")

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A hallway and another door.

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**Author:** ![tasman\_devil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tasman_devil/32/432430_2.png) [@tasman\_devil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tasman_devil)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/857 "2017-08-29T08:17:14Z")

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> [@900V](#):
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> > [@tasman\_devil](#):
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> > the sun is blocked out by the moon over the US
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> US and US ONLY! why? Because if it happened over anyother place too, then they cant implement their super secret plan!!

yes, that is the jab in it…

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**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/858 "2017-08-29T12:27:53Z")

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computer science fiction

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**Author:** ![tasman\_devil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tasman_devil/32/432430_2.png) [@tasman\_devil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tasman_devil)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/859 "2017-08-29T14:38:54Z")

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> [@yellow\_parasol](#):
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> on a sidenote… i think it’s fantastic that quoting people gives them a notification.

Yeah, it triggers people faster. 🙂

On the subject of 64Bit… I actually am curious as to what **improvements** a 64 Bit client would bring.

Other than, you know, actually consuming more memory and _locking out_ people with 32Bit Operating Systems.

(To be fair, in 2017, I don’t know who uses 32Bit OS anyways, but still)

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/860 "2017-08-29T15:05:27Z")

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> [@tasman\_devil](#):
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> (To be fair, in 2017, I don’t know who uses 32Bit OS anyways, but still)

Eve players are notoriously against upgrading their systems, [3.2% were still using Windows XP just last year.](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/changes-to-os-minimum-requirements/)

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**Author:** ![tasman\_devil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tasman_devil/32/432430_2.png) [@tasman\_devil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tasman_devil)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/861 "2017-08-29T15:13:52Z")

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> [@Teinyhr](#):
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> > [@tasman\_devil](#):
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> > (To be fair, in 2017, I don’t know who uses 32Bit OS anyways, but still)
> 
> Eve players are notoriously against upgrading their systems, [3.2% were still using Windows XP just last year.](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/changes-to-os-minimum-requirements/)

3,2% … heh… CCP really likes to cut around this mark now, don’t they!?

3,2% XP users

3% Captains Quarters users

What else do we have at or around 3%? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Benje\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/benje_en_divalone/32/11879_2.png) [@Benje\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Benje_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/862 "2017-08-29T17:27:03Z")

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> [@tasman\_devil](#):
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> What else do we have at or around 3%? 🙂

Severely limited audio options was another “not enough people use them” analysis failure.

“260m ticks” was an abuse of outlier data.

Somebody mentioned that CCP stated they weren’t interested in developing more group PVE due to how few people run Incursions.

The art of interpreting metrics _starts_ at noticing low usage. It should never ever end there. You must answer the question “_why?_” long before you declare something useless.

Anecdote time!

Back in the day I used to work in the field support engineering organization for a large US telecom company. Our customers demanded that we (and their other providers) supply ticket response metrics. After getting beat up for a couple months for slower than expected times one of our regions started reporting instantaneous response times.

Once we dug into it we found out they’d immediately route it to an FSE who would tell them their ticket is in progress and end the call. Literally immediate but certainly not the real measuire of what the customer wanted.

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**Author:** ![Utremi\_Fasolasi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/utremi_fasolasi/32/398601_2.png) [@Utremi\_Fasolasi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Utremi_Fasolasi)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/863 "2017-08-29T18:51:20Z")

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Gonna leave this here as an addendum [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mlVuLs\_Nw&t=27s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mlVuLs_Nw&t=27s)

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**Author:** ![Javfar\_Lafisques](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/javfar_lafisques/32/10620_2.png) [@Javfar\_Lafisques](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Javfar_Lafisques)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/864 "2017-08-29T19:16:11Z")

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> [@Benje\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> …snip…
> 
> Somebody mentioned that CCP stated they weren’t interested in developing more group PVE due to how few people run Incursions.
> 
> …snip…

Anything that need 25+ jumps or wait 1-2hr is a major deterrent. At least for me, I can only play 1-2 hr here and there, occasionally 3hrs.

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**Author:** ![tasman\_devil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tasman_devil/32/432430_2.png) [@tasman\_devil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tasman_devil)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/865 "2017-08-29T20:20:18Z")

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> [@Benje\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> > [@tasman\_devil](#):
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> > What else do we have at or around 3%? 🙂
> 
> Severely limited audio options was another “not enough people use them” analysis failure.
> 
> “260m ticks” was an abuse of outlier data.
> 
> Somebody mentioned that CCP stated they weren’t interested in developing more group PVE due to how few people run Incursions.
> 
> The art of interpreting metrics _starts_ at noticing low usage. It should never ever end there. You must answer the question “_why?_” long before you declare something useless.
> 
> Anecdote time!
> 
> Back in the day I used to work in the field support engineering organization for a large US telecom company. Our customers demanded that we (and their other providers) supply ticket response metrics. After getting beat up for a couple months for slower than expected times one of our regions started reporting instantaneous response times.
> 
> Once we dug into it we found out they’d immediately route it to an FSE who would tell them their ticket is in progress and end the call. Literally immediate but certainly not the real measuire of what the customer wanted.

Hehe, that is a good one.

But yes, you are right about the metrics and the way they spinmaster9000’ed this metric with the CQ russled more of my feathers than I would like to admit too.

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**Author:** ![The\_White\_Witch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_white_witch/32/20520_2.png) [@The\_White\_Witch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_White_Witch)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/866 "2017-08-30T03:25:09Z")

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I’ve been away from EVE for about a month and when I come back I see that the CQ is has been removed and I’m left floating in the hangar. I know the avatar did nothing and was pretty much a dress-up doll (which I actually liked). But it did give some players a better connection to their characters and to the game. Now that’s all gone 😢

The game just feels colder and less user friendly without it. If CCP ever decides to bring them back, then perhaps I’ll come back to the game. Until then, I’m going to have to say goodbye 😢

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**Author:** ![Rina\_Asanari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rina_asanari/32/11483_2.png) [@Rina\_Asanari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rina_Asanari)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/867 "2017-08-30T06:20:07Z")

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Obligatory “Can I have your stuff?” post.

Because, given their past track record, CQ will never come back.

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**Author:** ![tasman\_devil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tasman_devil/32/432430_2.png) [@tasman\_devil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tasman_devil)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-preparing-for-the-future-retirement-of-captain-s-quarters-twitch-integration/9940/868 "2017-08-30T09:53:47Z")

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> [@The\_White\_Witch](#):
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> I’ve been away from EVE for about a month and when I come back I see that the CQ is has been removed and I’m left floating in the hangar. I know the avatar did nothing and was pretty much a dress-up doll (which I actually liked). But it did give some players a better connection to their characters and to the game. Now that’s all gone 😢
> 
> The game just feels colder and less user friendly without it. If CCP ever decides to bring them back, then perhaps I’ll come back to the game. Until then, I’m going to have to say goodbye 😢

Can I have your stuff?

(sad to see you go, I too enjoyed CQ)

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