# Devblog: Spring Balance Update Incoming! **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** feedback, official, devblog\ **Created:** [March 13, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831 "2019-03-13T16:03:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Undeadenemy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/undeadenemy/32/231680_2.png) [@Undeadenemy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Undeadenemy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/342 "2019-03-13T21:10:07Z")
Yours might be shorter, but you’re glossing over a few details there. If you don’t at least attempt to save your excavs then each loss you take is heftier than is necessary. The other thing is, just dropping super carriers is no guarantee of success. There are one or two doctrines out there that will smoke you like a cigar if you try that, then you’ll have lost a Rorq, some FAX, and probably a super or two. More if you can’t get extracted. If a Rorq save goes wrong it’s the kind of thing that can quickly spiral out of control. (Damn good content though.) You should expect the above to happen a lot more often as well given the other changes in the patch, which is really my point. As it stands each Rorq that dies is going to lose a minimum 2 excavs, and that’s just to start. Insurance is going down, remote repairs are going to diminish, fighters are going to be less capable of applying damage. A lot is happening in this patch. It’s worth taking the extra time and holding some small portion of it off. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/343 "2019-03-13T21:10:18Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > are you counting me as new or old? Just wondering. Depends: is your beard as mighty as Steve’s? ---
**Author:** ![Drago\_Shouna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drago_shouna/32/350651_2.png) [@Drago\_Shouna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drago_Shouna)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/344 "2019-03-13T21:10:44Z")
How do you think players coped before the massive Rorqual buff? Hey, if alliances have to start to offline structures to keep up with fueling costs I can’t see a downside. Many HS structures are sitting empty. Maybe CCP needs to look at the size of alliances in the game anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/345 "2019-03-13T21:11:35Z")
> [@Metal\_Precious](#): > > I am posting from a paid account and within the rules of this forum. Why are CSM officials attacking my posts simply because im not meeting THEIR expectations on posting. I have valid reasons for posting with this toon and I’m a little amazed at the lack of professionalism and fanboi ism being demonstrated. When you make a statement that can’t be proven by looking up your information, you invite skepticism about what you wrote. That’s the downside to using a forum alt. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/346 "2019-03-13T21:12:28Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > or just drunk, is the sun over the yardarm there? Barely, but I gave up booze for Lent so power is it for me for a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/347 "2019-03-13T21:12:47Z")
Have you seen my moustache? it tends to kill any lower facial hair by pure intimidation. ---
**Author:** ![Metal\_Precious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/metal_precious/32/124517_2.png) [@Metal\_Precious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Metal_Precious)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/348 "2019-03-13T21:13:52Z")
I guess I don’t care to comment on YOUR skeptisism. I have nothing to prove to you as a CSM or any other CSM and my comments should be considered equally as valid as anyone else’s regardless of which character I’m posting from. Seriously, what has happened to this game and community? These are elected representatives of the community? really? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/349 "2019-03-13T21:15:43Z")
Obviously you care about our skepticism because you’re in a huff. Your comments are as valid as anybody else who is posting on an alt and making unverifiable claims. Community’s the same as it’s always been. Not sure why you think you’re being treated any different than anybody else. ---
**Author:** ![Shidou\_Asami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shidou_asami/32/124336_2.png) [@Shidou\_Asami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shidou_Asami)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/350 "2019-03-13T21:15:43Z")
so your basicly telling people if you dont wanna play incursions or wormholes you have no Place in the game ? im sorry but that seems Little to brisk ? Super ratting and carrier ratting will be killed by this patch no warp = no sites = you die faster than you allready do now. telling people to go do incursions if they wanna play the game seems wrong where is the freedom in that ? should people not be allowed to rat ? should people not be allowed to mine ? why must we go do incursions to pay for the fuel and home systems COSTs ? ur not giving people the option to consider ur FORCEING THEM and that never turns out good in the end. Players of all walks of Life in eve should have the right to play the game. doing only incursions should not be forced upon them. this patch is and will be a disaster of eve and CSM should be ashamed of themselfs for allowing it to happen. TIME AND TIME again normal players suffer the consequences of the goonswarm botting armada or any other high and Mighty Power house. this cycle MUST END and it should not end by telling normal players to “screw themselfs if they wanna rat in carrier or mine with a rorqual or do exploration or god knows what else.” ---
**Author:** ![Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thendian_cryogenesis/32/143655_2.png) [@Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thendian_CryoGenesis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/351 "2019-03-13T21:16:03Z")
His point is that anybody could claim they are a CEO from an alt account. So, if your opinion to be valued as if you were a CEO, post from that account. Otherwise, we can’t assume that everybody who claims they own a corporation actually owns one. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/352 "2019-03-13T21:17:05Z")
Sounds like you’re old, then. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/353 "2019-03-13T21:17:58Z")
> [@Shidou\_Asami](#): > > so your basicly telling people if you dont wanna play incursions or wormholes you have no Place in the game ? Yeah. That’s _totally_ what a guy from The Initiative, living in Fountain and not doing either of those things, is telling people. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/354 "2019-03-13T21:18:27Z")
I’d just like to say I don’t think i’ve ever seen so many self-entitled cry-babies on any other forum I’ve been involved with, and I’ve been on a good few. You’re supposed to be immortal capsuleer space-warriors for f\*\*\*'s sake, so ADAPT !! ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/355 "2019-03-13T21:18:28Z")
> [@Shidou\_Asami](#): > > so your basicly telling people if you dont wanna play incursions or wormholes you have no Place in the game ? > > im sorry but that seems Little to brisk ? No, I’m suggesting that if your only goal is to maximize the amount of isk you’re producing per hour, then you may need to reevaluate that given these changes and do something different. If you love carrier ratting and it’s your absolute favorite thing, you can still do it, but you won’t make as much isk as made before and it will be riskier. > [@Shidou\_Asami](#): > > Super ratting and carrier ratting will be killed by this patch no warp = no sites = you die faster than you allready do now. > > telling people to go do incursions if they wanna play the game seems wrong where is the freedom in that ? > > should people not be allowed to rat ? > should people not be allowed to mine ? > why must we go do incursions to pay for the fuel and home systems COSTs ? Nobody is saying you can’t keep doing it. You’re just not going to be rewarded as much as you were before. If the only thing you care about is the reward, then alter your behavior to chase the reward. If you want to keep doing what you did before, then do it. > [@Shidou\_Asami](#): > > this patch is and will be a disaster of eve and CSM should be ashamed of themselfs for allowing it to happen. > > TIME AND TIME again normal players suffer the consequences of the goonswarm botting armada or any other high and Mighty Power house. this cycle MUST END and it should not end by telling normal players to “screw themselfs if they wanna rat in carrier or mine with a rorqual or do exploration or god knows what else.” You realize that this impacts Goons more than anybody, right? ---
**Author:** ![Metal\_Precious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/metal_precious/32/124517_2.png) [@Metal\_Precious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Metal_Precious)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/356 "2019-03-13T21:18:32Z")
I wasn’t in a “huff” until elected officials tried to down play valid comments just because I didn’t meet their expectations. CSM seems to be a bunch of elitests. ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/357 "2019-03-13T21:18:59Z")
I use to hear that null sec players were the cream of the crop, hardened veterans of a hundred battles, ice in their veins. Turns out they react along the line of us HS players when devs move in a direction they don’t like. I guess it’s our turn to sit back and watch the show. ---
**Author:** ![Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thendian_cryogenesis/32/143655_2.png) [@Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thendian_CryoGenesis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/358 "2019-03-13T21:19:34Z")
> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#): > > I’d just like to say I don’t think i’ve ever seen so many self-entitled cry-babies on any other forum I’ve been involved with, and I’ve been on a good few. You’re supposed to be immortal capsuleer space-warriors for f\*\*\*'s sake, so ADAPT !! and this is supposed to be a forum for helpful insight to the update, so LEAVE !! ---
**Author:** ![Shidou\_Asami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shidou_asami/32/124336_2.png) [@Shidou\_Asami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shidou_Asami)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/359 "2019-03-13T21:20:13Z")
no it wont. goon has fleets upon fleets of ships. loseing a carrier or super carrier is peanuts to them for uss the normal players its our homes our lives and our game play. thats what you dont understand that this nerf will break. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/360 "2019-03-13T21:20:49Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > You realize that this impacts Goons more than anybody, right? Only directly. We’ll adapt to it better than anyone else will, too, so in the long run, this, like literally every other change that it was possible to make, only serves our purposes. After all, we’re Goons. We control everything. We control everyone. We made @Shidou_Asami post that. We’re **everywhere**. Just ask Glenn Beck. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/361 "2019-03-13T21:20:56Z")
You forget that most of the eve players are not panzies who give up when they get a slight nerf to their place style, the real eve player’s will adapt they will find new ways to take on the new challenge’s they face. The people leaving because life in null cant be afked anymore with total safety are not going to make a dent in eve. HTFU [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831.md?page=19)