# Devblog: Spring Balance Update Incoming! **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** feedback, official, devblog\ **Created:** [March 13, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831 "2019-03-13T16:03:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Depopulo\_Denuo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/depopulo_denuo/32/154488_2.png) [@Depopulo\_Denuo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Depopulo_Denuo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/585 "2019-03-13T22:28:04Z")
thats just the game maturing to the level it was intended to… this game is suppose to end in super powers battling it out for dominance… economic power is just as strong as military capability. there are so many titans because the game is old, ppl are rich and they want titans… so they pay 10s of billions of isk for them… this game was inevitably going o end in massive capital battles… im sorry some of you can only fly subs… maybe you should train for caps like I did, a cruiser has no business ■■■■■■■ with a capital PERIOD ---
**Author:** ![uziel99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uziel99/32/411370_2.png) [@uziel99](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/uziel99)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/586 "2019-03-13T22:28:04Z")
gm messages bot, bot doesn’t respond, bot gets banned. ---
**Author:** ![Andromecin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andromecin/32/439259_2.png) [@Andromecin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andromecin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/587 "2019-03-13T22:28:06Z")
it used to, it used to take out just about everything that wasn’t a super. then came the whines. I was there I saw it. the titan was feared, you didn’t need huge numbers of them to control a battle, you only needed one. and that was that. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/588 "2019-03-13T22:28:07Z")
Cap’s can only cyno so far, they would be stretching their super cap umbrella to wide leaving lots of weak spot’s. Having to defend a greater area of space mean’s gorilla tactics have much greater effect, one of the biggest reasons goon’s are so strong is because of how concentrated they are allowed to be because of current eve mechanic’s go look at how their space is set up, its really strong in some place’s. ---
**Author:** ![Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thendian_cryogenesis/32/143655_2.png) [@Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thendian_CryoGenesis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/589 "2019-03-13T22:28:35Z")
I was arguing against the 30 day ratting limit. ---
**Author:** ![Nuke\_Michael](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nuke_michael/32/382690_2.png) [@Nuke\_Michael](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nuke_Michael)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/590 "2019-03-13T22:28:52Z")
There are many blingy active dread fits that can soak a DD, and buffer fits can do it easily , without the hull energizer #makeDDDrivebysgreatagain ---
**Author:** ![Mewash\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mewash_thiesant/32/267664_2.png) [@Mewash\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mewash_Thiesant)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/591 "2019-03-13T22:30:18Z")
Lol. botters gonna bot. They’re just gonna use SEBOs. Problem fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luigi_mon-de-sound/32/422750_2.png) [@Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luigi_mon-de-sound)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/592 "2019-03-13T22:31:29Z")
But they will sacrifice speed and damage application to do so ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/593 "2019-03-13T22:31:38Z")
> [@Nuke\_Michael](#): > > #makeDDDrivebysgreatagain Haha cyno DOOMSDAY anyone! Glad they removed that crap. ---
**Author:** ![Nuke\_Michael](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nuke_michael/32/382690_2.png) [@Nuke\_Michael](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nuke_Michael)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/594 "2019-03-13T22:32:20Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > Haha cyno DOOMSDAY anyone! I’d settle for making buffing targeted DD damage so they can take out the average _un slaved_ rev fit and nerf bosons a bit ---
**Author:** ![BruceLee\_Xadi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brucelee_xadi/32/248340_2.png) [@BruceLee\_Xadi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BruceLee_Xadi)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/595 "2019-03-13T22:32:30Z")
I dont like that either, just saying there are ways of fixing the game against bots that dont involve screwing the player base. ---
**Author:** ![Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thendian_cryogenesis/32/143655_2.png) [@Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thendian_CryoGenesis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/596 "2019-03-13T22:33:50Z")
I didn’t suggest any fix to the solution, I just argued against his solution. Idk how to fix botting, but that’s a discussion for a different forum post. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/598 "2019-03-13T22:34:30Z")
> [@Xelios](#): > > Question is do we want the rest of nullsec to look like Delve? Is that really going to be good for the game? Zero roaming PVP going on, nobody wanting to start a war because the thought of grinding through dozens of ADM 5 systems with 10 citadels each is worse than death? Roams come into Delve all the time. Roams also go _out_ of Delve all the time. Like, half a dozen pings for them a day, easily. As for the sov grind… _nobody wants to do it **now** _. Nobody. Why do you think there really haven’t been any major wars going on? XIX is about to start one, sure (I mean, let’s face it, Vily confirmed it on Reddit), but that’s because he’s been on TEST’s couch. Look at the last big war that _wasn’t_ the RUS trying to carve some space out for themselves… did we actually take any space? Nope. We didn’t fight that war for territory. We didn’t fight it for resources. We fought it for _hate_. > [@Xelios](#): > > But it’s also a pretty grim vision of the future for anyone who wants more than to suck spod all day. Is it? EVE’s a game where your choices matter, where you can _accomplish_ things and have a lasting impact. It’s a game where you can build and develop your space. You know what that means? It means it’s a game where eventually, the frontier _gets settled_. That’s what happens to frontiers. In 1860, the population of San Francisco was 56,802. 10 years later, it was 149,473. 10 years after that, 233,959. And that’s in the real world, where wars take years to play out, where population shifts happen over decades. Online, all of those trends accelerate. We’re _fifteen years in_. You can’t expect the frontier to still be cattle rustlers and gunslingers forever. That’s not how _human beings_ work. And as much as I despise human beings, EVE is _stuffed_ with 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luigi_mon-de-sound/32/422750_2.png) [@Luigi\_mon-de-sound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luigi_mon-de-sound)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/599 "2019-03-13T22:34:59Z")
Boo ho, you cant super rat anymore. Cry me some more salt ---
**Author:** ![Mewash\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mewash_thiesant/32/267664_2.png) [@Mewash\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mewash_Thiesant)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/600 "2019-03-13T22:35:17Z")
It’s a matter of getting right application:scan res ratio, they are gonna max it. Don’t forget that they’re just gonna get a little bit more of alts and voila - the same amount of isk. ---
**Author:** ![Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thendian_cryogenesis/32/143655_2.png) [@Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thendian_CryoGenesis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/601 "2019-03-13T22:35:29Z")
> [@Luigi\_mon-de-sound](#): > > Boo ho, you cant super rat anymore. Cry me some more salt Mmmhmmm, thank you for your contribution to this discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Eimar\_Akytamku](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eimar_akytamku/32/86123_2.png) [@Eimar\_Akytamku](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eimar_Akytamku)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/602 "2019-03-13T22:36:54Z")
> [@Thendian\_CryoGenesis](#): > > Mmmhmmm, thank you for your contribution to this discussion. To be fair, it’s not like the guy he was replying to made much of a contribution. ---
**Author:** ![BruceLee\_Xadi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brucelee_xadi/32/248340_2.png) [@BruceLee\_Xadi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BruceLee_Xadi)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/603 "2019-03-13T22:37:11Z")
Do we have any statistics on much longer it will take to rat with these changes? ---
**Author:** ![Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thendian_cryogenesis/32/143655_2.png) [@Thendian\_CryoGenesis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thendian_CryoGenesis)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/604 "2019-03-13T22:37:47Z")
Fair enough ---
**Author:** ![Nuke\_Michael](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nuke_michael/32/382690_2.png) [@Nuke\_Michael](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nuke_Michael)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831/605 "2019-03-13T22:38:04Z")
> [@BruceLee\_Xadi](#): > > Do we have any statistics on much longer it will take to rat with these changes? if your brave enough to use the nsa there won’t be a huge difference, _maybe_ a bit longer to kill the frigs or cruisers but thats it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831.md?page=29) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-spring-balance-update-incoming/145831.md?page=31)