# Devblog: Updates to Sales Taxes & Brokers Fees **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** feedback, official, devblog\ **Created:** [July 29, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876 "2019-07-29T16:28:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Wireless\_Dongle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wireless_dongle/32/184067_2.png) [@Wireless\_Dongle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wireless_Dongle)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/431 "2019-07-30T02:14:46Z")
So, you’re adding new taxes to destroy more isk, great idea! You’re already destroying isk by not giving us the tools to run a corp like it should be. 1. It’s the year 30,000 right? You would think i could audit a fleet hangar to not have to do guess work on how much ore they put in. 2. I still can’t see every industry job as a CEO, I should be able to see where people are putting things etc. 3. Where’s the corp balance sheet? 4. There are no real reports to see any cash flow other than a stupid in-\>out of the wallet transactions, come on man. 5. Why isn’t there a have materials to make switch in industry? I mean for real… Basically, this is taxation without representation, we need some QOL improvements please. It looks to me like all you guys care about is destroying isk. ---
**Author:** ![Scorp\_Majors](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorp_majors/32/123732_2.png) [@Scorp\_Majors](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scorp_Majors)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/432 "2019-07-30T02:33:11Z")
> [@Wireless\_Dongle](#): > > Basically, this is taxation without representation Nobody got to vote on this, where do we dump the tea? ---
**Author:** ![Wireless\_Dongle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wireless_dongle/32/184067_2.png) [@Wireless\_Dongle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wireless_Dongle)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/433 "2019-07-30T02:33:47Z")
> [@Scorp\_Majors](#): > > Nobody got to vote on this, where do we dump the tea? Jita? ---
**Author:** ![Brox\_Goulding](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brox_goulding/32/137577_2.png) [@Brox\_Goulding](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brox_Goulding)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/434 "2019-07-30T02:35:01Z")
Has this been thought through at all? Right now, taxes which are paid to NPC stations are taken OUT of the game. They are an ISK sink. On the other hand, taxes paid to player stations go into the pockets of the owner of the station. At the moment that’s the very same people who have so much money that Super Capitals are nearly worthless compared to what they were a few years ago. Great thinking CCP - way to remove another ISK Sink. ---
**Author:** ![Scorp\_Majors](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorp_majors/32/123732_2.png) [@Scorp\_Majors](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scorp_Majors)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/435 "2019-07-30T02:37:32Z")
I have a feeling that something big is about to happen… CCP doesn’t just screw something up without a plan to make it even worse… keep an eye out for the other shoe as it will be dropping soon, I’m pretty sure. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Saltz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kyle_saltz/32/438636_2.png) [@Kyle\_Saltz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kyle_Saltz)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/436 "2019-07-30T02:54:22Z")
From the makers of the “Black out.” Here comes Higher Taxes!! I seriously think some Devs are betting each other behind closed doors how much salt and hatred they can stir up. Or maybe Eve has become a social experiment. One in which most of the community despises the devs development but continue to play solely on the love of the community that is eve. ---
**Author:** ![Vroqnex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vroqnex/32/131275_2.png) [@Vroqnex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vroqnex)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/437 "2019-07-30T02:57:42Z")
Now if you would just do the same to Contract pricing. The cheap amounts make it too easy to scam new pilots in local chat. Minimum fee should be 1 million isk for all contracts. Let’s at least try to make it harder for those parasites. ---
**Author:** ![Becham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/becham/32/327010_2.png) [@Becham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Becham)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/438 "2019-07-30T03:07:19Z")
That is pure bullocks there Facsimilie. CCP has been hitting null sec ratting payouts hard with the nerf bat for the past six months. I’m not even going to bother listing it all. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/439 "2019-07-30T03:37:17Z")
Seems reasonable and a fair idea. I do wish the skill bonus was up for Accounting – Increase in reduction of sales tax from 10% per level to 11% per level. was actually 12% But this is a change I can live with and approve. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/440 "2019-07-30T03:41:32Z")
> [@Scorp\_Majors](#): > > Nobody got to vote on this, where do we dump the tea? So you want to pay taxes a lot higher a while later then. Just as those who dumped the tea into the harbor do now. I would do a Trump joke but CCP beat that already with the CSM. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/441 "2019-07-30T03:44:30Z")
> [@Kyle\_Saltz](#): > > Or maybe Eve has become a social experiment. Was it ever _not_? ---
**Author:** ![ImYourMom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imyourmom/32/373824_2.png) [@ImYourMom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImYourMom)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/442 "2019-07-30T04:39:18Z")
I’m totally confused as to why?? At least explain Its already stupidly expensive to buy and sell anything. If you’re filtering more isk to goin test and horde then absolutely no. God what are you guys doing. ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_Herald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theo_herald/32/151423_2.png) [@Theo\_Herald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theo_Herald)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/443 "2019-07-30T04:44:19Z")
I can always mine to manufacture what I need to play and I don’t need to be in a battleship to enjoy EVE. I can also buy PLEX for little real money and turn it into Isk for buying blueprints and the skills I need to do that. If CCP wants to screw me over with higher taxes at the market I’ll simply use the market when extremely necessary only and provide for myself by myself, don’t care how long it takes, EVE isn’t my second income. ---
**Author:** ![Ahuraa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahuraa/32/245386_2.png) [@Ahuraa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahuraa)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/444 "2019-07-30T04:46:56Z")
For the last 4 weeks i have visited Dual universe website and contemplating if i should join that game instead of EVE and now i read this and i don’t know how to interpenetrate it. Could someone plz explain to me how this will effect the hub markets and station traders. CCP dont want station trading or is it just NPC station trading? ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Schlosser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roland_schlosser/32/392001_2.png) [@Roland\_Schlosser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roland_Schlosser)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/445 "2019-07-30T04:55:36Z")
Just make the Upwell Market Module usable only in Null/WH. Boom, trading tower is gone tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_Coutant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_coutant/32/282536_2.png) [@Alex\_Coutant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Coutant)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/446 "2019-07-30T05:05:14Z")
I’m honestly a little put out that this was sprung on us. I maximized charisma and memory with the intention of learning advanced trade skills. Thankfully, I just finished Accounting (which remains good) and hadn’t gotten to the other ones. With the new taxes, I doubt margin trading will be as profitable. This unpredictability is bad for business planning. Do I have a representative who votes on taxes? ---
**Author:** ![Asimov7\_Foundation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asimov7_foundation/32/307620_2.png) [@Asimov7\_Foundation](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asimov7_Foundation)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/447 "2019-07-30T05:09:25Z")
Well said!!! I’m not renewing any subscriptions or buying any more PLEX until they get their heads out of their #$$@$ on these changes. If you want to kill the game just unplug the server and be done with it! Spare us all the drama and the stupid crap about YOUR TAXES DEFEND NEW EDEN blah blah blah. No local in NS, Drifters, VNI nerfs and now this then you insult the communities intelligence with garbage like killing spree, $1 sub add-ons and oh we will add some of what we are taking in taxes with skill adjustments. The devs are so out of touch they think they’re programming WOW servers! ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/448 "2019-07-30T05:27:42Z")
> [@Theo\_Herald](#): > > If I’m being taxed more for the same amount I’ll just sell/buy less often and in bigger quantities with weeks in-between, even if I have to wait an extra month to buy that module or ship or sell that ore. That’s not gonna actually change how much you pay, you know… ---
**Author:** ![Theo\_Herald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theo_herald/32/151423_2.png) [@Theo\_Herald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theo_Herald)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/449 "2019-07-30T05:30:32Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > That’s not gonna actually change how much you pay, you know… anyway, I can always mine to manufacture what I need to play and I don’t need to be in a battleship to enjoy EVE. I can also buy PLEX for little real money and turn it into Isk for buying blueprints and the skills I need to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876/450 "2019-07-30T05:30:48Z")
I’m glad people like you will be brave in enough to stick in null even after all asset safety is gone from the game o7. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devblog-updates-to-sales-taxes-brokers-fees/178876.md?page=23)