# Devs Play EVE - CCP policy change discussion

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** official\
**Created:** [December 16, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763 "2019-12-16T11:09:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/82 "2019-12-17T11:00:04Z")

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Here in the prestigious Center for Advanced studies, for new characters, our doors are always open… literally.

And, probably one of the best places to see exactly what questions and points of confusion we get from newbros on a daily basis, as we get them as fresh as they come.

😉

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/83 "2019-12-17T11:13:29Z")

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Just wanted to link this thread for Dev’s that are interested in joining a null sec community without actually joining a player Corp / Alliance.

> [@NPC Stain 0.0 - Building A Small Community Hub, Codename: Hubzero](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-stain-0-0-building-a-small-community-hub-codename-hubzero/204273):
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> Hi There, I am interested in building an economy and small community in Stain which is NPC 0.0 as I feel I am missing out on player interaction, I have played the game solo for many years. I have been active in Stain a lot recently doing Havens, Hubs and other rated combat sites. I am using a Tengu which I refit in space for Interdiction nullification and covert cloak, this enables me to travel to other systems along the pipe without too much trouble. I’d like some cool blue pilots to work wi…

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**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/84 "2019-12-17T11:20:36Z")

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Oh? There are wormholers there?

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**Author:** ![Eivar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eivar/32/178879_2.png) [@Eivar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eivar)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/85 "2019-12-17T11:36:10Z")

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Games throughout the past four decades have had devs in clans/guilds that have been “accidentally” outed. So what? The sky has never fallen, the player base has never left in droves, and a game has never folded because 5 or 6 members of a guild turned out to be CS or GMs or Devs.

If you want my opinions (because that’s what they are, informed or not), you’re welcome to PM me. I’m not unhappy that CCP devs now have a freedom they should always have had, but imho, CCP’s just made a big deal out of “nothing” in the industry – nothing, that is, if you manage player perception appropriately rather than your just your own.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Darwin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_darwin/32/464013_2.png) [@CCP\_Darwin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Darwin)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/86 "2019-12-17T11:47:36Z")

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These changes are only notable in the Eve community because of the history regarding these rules and how they came to be in the first place. Twelve years ago CCP was a young company lacking internal controls and it caused serious problems that some people today still remember vividly. This is just part of the process of moving on from that.

Beyond that, I agree, it’s not really a big deal.

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**Author:** ![Norrin\_Ellis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/norrin_ellis/32/150282_2.png) [@Norrin\_Ellis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Norrin_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/87 "2019-12-17T11:54:59Z")

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> [@CCP\_Darwin](#):
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> I’ve never known a single CCPer who cared much about in-game politics, regardless of where their characters were.

It’s not about politics. It’s about doing favors for friends, whether those favors are material (as the aforementioned T20 incident), informational, or preferential treatment in behind-the-scenes decisions to which the rest of us will never be privy.

Frankly, I think you should go a step further and actually publish the names of CCP employees’ characters for maximum transparency.

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**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/88 "2019-12-17T14:09:39Z")

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Would now be a good time to request a policy change on being so stingy with snowballs and fireworks at this festive time?

🌲

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**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/89 "2019-12-17T14:59:03Z")

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Wouldn’t that invite wardecs, ganks and other miscellaneous activities against them, making it so they couldn’t actually play?

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**Author:** ![Sephylus\_Vile](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sephylus_vile/32/175741_2.png) [@Sephylus\_Vile](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sephylus_Vile)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/90 "2019-12-17T15:04:08Z")

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NOoooooo! I hide in the sun when I am Ninja Looting! LOL

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**Author:** ![Sephylus\_Vile](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sephylus_vile/32/175741_2.png) [@Sephylus\_Vile](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sephylus_Vile)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/91 "2019-12-17T15:11:40Z")

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Would it be fun to create a Devs Only corp as an enemy faction in game so we can hunt them down to vent frustration?

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/92 "2019-12-17T15:35:26Z")

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Lmao like y’all need some arbitrary reason to harass and persecute a group of players.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/93 "2019-12-17T15:37:48Z")

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I dont understand the purpose of this.

Is it to normalise the complicity ?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/94 "2019-12-17T15:39:26Z")

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> [@Sephylus\_Vile](#):
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> NOoooooo! I hide in the sun when I am Ninja Looting! LOL

Maybe CCP can create some really thick Gas Clouds that visually hide ships as well as negate their transponder signals.

Something similar to this Hidden Smuggler’s Training Facility.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/6/e6196f4d5a7db45d77755f035569e3f862058c4c.png)

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**Author:** ![Zita\_Pavilonfy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zita_pavilonfy/32/175754_2.png) [@Zita\_Pavilonfy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zita_Pavilonfy)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/95 "2019-12-17T16:57:30Z")

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I imagine end of year bonus for dev team is given in plex or isk 😀

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/96 "2019-12-17T17:16:32Z")

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of them changing the policy?

I think its a great idea.

@CCP_Darwin I would love to fly with any of you guys/gals.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/97 "2019-12-17T17:17:37Z")

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And if your organisation is on the approved list, Im sure you will 🙂

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/98 "2019-12-17T17:57:16Z")

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I hope devs will spill the beans. Inadvertently. I like reading about those dramas.

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/99 "2019-12-17T18:02:47Z")

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“So uh, a developer has, well, developed a gambling addiction due to the HyperNet. So we’re taking that down now.”

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**Author:** ![Norrin\_Ellis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/norrin_ellis/32/150282_2.png) [@Norrin\_Ellis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Norrin_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/100 "2019-12-17T22:32:21Z")

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> [@Bernie\_Nator](#):
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> Wouldn’t that invite wardecs, ganks and other miscellaneous activities against them, making it so they couldn’t actually play?

But they represent “every major alliance!” Aren’t major alliance folks always looking for “gudfights” and other such nonsense?

Seems to me that the players should know which devs jump on the sociopathic bully bandwagon to harass the comparatively defenseless. If the devs want to participate with folks whose agenda is to ruin the game for others who are orders of magnitude weaker than themselves, then paying customers should know which devs are involved.

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**Author:** ![Scat\_Lover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scat_lover/32/177200_2.png) [@Scat\_Lover](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scat_Lover)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/102 "2019-12-18T01:01:32Z")

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I only have 1 question, do developers have any kind of mechanics and game priviledges such as in know who ur alts are, or know where u are exactly and/or any other kind of non normal players mechanics for their advantage?

yes  
no  
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