# Devs Play EVE - CCP policy change discussion

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** official\
**Created:** [December 16, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763 "2019-12-16T11:09:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/123 "2020-01-03T13:13:56Z")

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Glare from the suns? Maybe just use your settings menu.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/124 "2020-01-04T04:51:14Z")

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It’s not an issue with my graphics ‘Settings’, it’s an issue with the game code ‘Settings’ which other players have voiced as well. In fact a CCP Dev even acknowledged there was an issue:

> [@CCP\_Myrkur](#):
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> A fix should be coming in the next release we can get it into!

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**Author:** ![isevisa\_isevisa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isevisa_isevisa/32/175974_2.png) [@isevisa\_isevisa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/isevisa_isevisa)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/125 "2020-01-14T11:01:12Z")

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which of you is the most evil? ??? 😉

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Norros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_norros/32/249084_2.png) [@ISD\_Norros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Norros)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/128 "2020-01-21T17:50:21Z")

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removed post containing restricted content and the reply to it.

> **2.**  **Specifically restricted content.**
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> - Discussion of Warnings & Bans
> - Discussion of Moderation
> - Private communications with CCP

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/130 "2020-01-21T18:55:15Z")

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> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#):
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> asking if it is possible for a DEV to do these things,

It’s pretty obvious that the implied answer is that it’s _possible_ but that any dev who does will be met with repercussions.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/132 "2020-01-21T19:06:07Z")

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I would assume it’s a bit easier to handle since they literally work in the same office together.

Yes, the T20 thing in the last was shitty, but I would expect CCP to have grown as a company since then with much stricter oversight and internal affairs programs.

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/134 "2020-01-21T22:17:16Z")

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The first time a Dev is outed or outs themselves as belonging to one of the major groups it will change the game forever.  
Whether or not the Dev uses “Dev Powers” to benefit himself or the group player perception from many sectors will be “oh look, they have employees of CCP in their group whatever happens next ( win a war or lose it) will be because of the Dev”.

The truth in Eve is most often a LONG way from reality.  
I think CCP need to tread very carefully with this so as to not alienate and risk losing more of the player base.

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EveOffline (I know it doesn’t tell the whole story but) - August to January 2018/2019 average online was 31K - Same period 2019/2020 is at 26K with the last month at 23K.  
Now, if CCP is being honest about new player retention, something does not add up. If recruitment of new players is up, why aren’t overall online numbers up?

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**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/135 "2020-01-21T23:46:18Z")

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This is cool and all. I seriously hope that the dev’s that will end up playing EVE stick to the rules.  
I used to play a game called DarkOrbit back in 2009 and the dev’s would run around murdering newer players who weren’t paying through the nose for their silly [INSERT PROFANITY HERE] browser game. I suppose any employee that didn’t abide by the rules would be reprimanded.

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**Author:** ![Lekken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lekken/32/187980_2.png) [@Lekken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lekken)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/137 "2020-02-19T07:51:45Z")

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🔴 You have new items available

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/138 "2020-02-19T08:09:08Z")

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🔴 I wonder if the recent changes came from devs actually playing the game and noticing how bad they are at it. Would be intriguing to know so that we as more experienced players can prepare ourselves for more of this useless stuff. Since developers are now allowed to play more in the open, they should be able to reveal more of their reasoning for these kinds of changes to the players as well.

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**Author:** ![Denret\_Adoudel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/denret_adoudel/32/338248_2.png) [@Denret\_Adoudel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Denret_Adoudel)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/139 "2020-02-19T13:06:17Z")

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if the devs actually ■■■■■■■ played this game you wouldnt be doing retarded ■■■■ like this new item spam and now the god damn unused SP spam and you cant ■■■■■■■ turn off either of them

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**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/140 "2020-04-03T21:09:09Z")

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> [@CCP\_Myrkur](#):
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> A fix should be coming in the next release we can get it into!

@CCP_Myrkur can you please sit down and discuss lighting choices with the relevant parties? In today’s patch the stark difference between the black login screen and the really light character login screen gave me headaches after the 5th time logging in (I run multiple accounts and log in sequentially to check for email.) It’s the same effect as driving at night and being constantly hit by headlights in a rural location where there is no street lighting.

I know I represent a minority of CCP’s clients; but, this issue is real and impacts the players negatively.

I have had to turn my monitor’s display down to the lowest brightness setting, and it still isn’t really enough to counteract the strobe lighting effect the current laucher graphics induce on some of your player base.

Many thanks.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/141 "2020-04-04T00:29:16Z")

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Are masks required to be worn to attend this policy change discussion?

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**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/devs-play-eve-ccp-policy-change-discussion/206763/142 "2020-07-03T00:29:20Z")

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