# Did CCP secretly nerf Emerging Conduit as of today? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209 "2020-01-23T11:47:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/244 "2020-01-25T16:04:25Z")
> [@Pat\_Loidsidh](#): > > And I will move on to some other game. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/245 "2020-01-25T16:07:15Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > I also did not try a multitude of other EVE content, most notably life outside highsec. It does not mean I am not aware of it; But it does mean your opinion has little to no value on the subject. That is me being very kind. > [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > All opinions should be appreciated. Bollocks. ■■■■ off. … Now, see what you made me do! ---
**Author:** ![Quor\_Dresden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quor_dresden/32/277545_2.png) [@Quor\_Dresden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quor_Dresden)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/246 "2020-01-25T17:25:19Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > But it does mean your opinion has little to no value on the subject. That is me being very kind. Almost no one has any idea what it’s like to be president. That sure dont stop people from being opinionated about every president. Rightfully so as it effects us. Just like this game, null, low, wormhole, and highsec all have an effect on the game, so we all have a right to our opinion. Some may have limited knowledge on certain subjects but that does not necessarily devalue their opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/247 "2020-01-25T17:50:30Z")
> [@Quor\_Dresden](#): > > That sure dont stop people from being opinionated about every president. Rightfully so as it effects us. Hu ? you are mixing “judge the actions” and “judge the person”. Don’t do that, it’s pretty stupid. > [@Quor\_Dresden](#): > > so we all have a right to our opinion. Yeah you have the right to have an opinion about their effect on your game - when this effect is actually proven. But all I can see on this topic is people talking out of their ass. People who complain about NS but did not even give NS a try. People who claim NS has better rewards than HS but do not have first-hand numbers to back that claim. And that’s BS. ---
**Author:** ![Quor\_Dresden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quor_dresden/32/277545_2.png) [@Quor\_Dresden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quor_Dresden)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/248 "2020-01-25T18:09:17Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Hu ? you are mixing “judge the actions” and “judge the person”. > Don’t do that, it’s pretty stupid. President does not only stand for a person. Just a very general example. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > But all I can see on this topic is people talking out of their ass. People who complain about NS but did not even give NS a try. People who claim NS has better rewards than HS but do not have first-hand numbers to back that claim. Yes, in general most forums or just any social media is full of people talking out their asses. No doubt about it. From time to time some have the know how to understand something without having first hand experience. Now I’m not defending anyone in particular in this thread, just the idea that an opinion can have value regardless of experience. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/249 "2020-01-25T18:19:14Z")
> [@Quor\_Dresden](#): > > President does not only stand for a person. Just a very general example. Still a pretty stupid example. > [@Quor\_Dresden](#): > > just the idea that an opinion can have value regardless of experience. Which is BS. You actually can’t even have an opinion if you don’t have experience. Your opinion is about something that is not real. Something that other people have used propaganda to create. Something that you feel entitled to have an opinion for, because other people made it real for you. You just become an echo chamber of the propaganda, even unable to realize how stupid your claims are. Like the idiots who claim that “correlation is causation” or that “CCP proved that killing people make them stick to the game”. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/250 "2020-01-25T18:45:31Z")
> [@Quor\_Dresden](#): > > Enjoying the new content we pay for just to have it change because of botters and FTP accounts. You can still enjoy the new content. The respawn timer and reduced loot do not in any way change the experience of fighting the NPCs, if that is genuinely what you enjoy. There is only a problem if by “enjoy the new content” you mean “farm it at maximum ISK/hour efficiency”. And that is not about enjoyment of the content, it’s about maximizing ISK generation by whatever means pays the best. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/271 "2020-01-25T19:49:25Z")
Post 270, tl;dr I brought you all some tissues 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/279 "2020-01-25T20:39:33Z")
Spamming the forums because your CEO says so is a pretty ■■■■ idea. Eve isnt high sec alone. Go explore the rest of the cluster. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/280 "2020-01-25T21:54:46Z")
Removed some 25 posts for being off topic. Keep it civil and on topic. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Quor\_Dresden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quor_dresden/32/277545_2.png) [@Quor\_Dresden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quor_Dresden)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/281 "2020-01-25T21:54:54Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Which is BS. You actually can’t even have an opinion if you don’t have experience. Which is BS. Are you saying that no one can learn from reading? Come on Anderson what’s up lately? You seem to be jumping on the forum troll bandwagon. Leave those comments for Merin. It dont matter to me if you disagree, but propaganda? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Quor\_Dresden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quor_dresden/32/277545_2.png) [@Quor\_Dresden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quor_Dresden)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/282 "2020-01-25T22:00:13Z")
> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > Removed some 25 posts for being off topic. Keep it civil and on topic. Thanks. Now remove yourself for being off topic. Or actually get involved in the conversations and stop just being a hall monitor.😜 ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/283 "2020-01-25T22:19:47Z")
I could, but my opinion on the matter is that people should be running the next part of the invasion, aka, fighting in fleets to go deal with the next part of the Triglavian’s design. EVE is a multiplayer game, and if you’re playing it solo, then you are most likely doing something wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/284 "2020-01-25T22:27:23Z")
> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > if you’re playing it solo, then you are most likely doing something wrong. This applies to so many things in EVE. Solo is a disease. ---
**Author:** ![Tak\_Goden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tak_goden/32/260085_2.png) [@Tak\_Goden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tak_Goden)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/285 "2020-01-25T22:55:16Z")
> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > I could, but my opinion on the matter is that people should be running the next part of the invasion, aka, fighting in fleets to go deal with the next part of the Triglavian’s design. EVE is a multiplayer game, and if you’re playing it solo, then you are most likely doing something wrong. I’ve been playing Eve wrong for years lol. ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legit_hypern_et/32/181363_2.png) [@Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legit_HyperN_et)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/286 "2020-01-25T23:01:53Z")
> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > I could, but my opinion on the matter is that people should be running the next part of the invasion, aka, fighting in fleets to go deal with the next part of the Triglavian’s design. EVE is a multiplayer game, and if you’re playing it solo, then you are most likely doing something wrong. Great post but when can we expect and see lifetime bans for any and all players who are playing solo only. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/287 "2020-01-25T23:03:27Z")
> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > EVE is a multiplayer game, and if you’re playing it solo, then you are most likely doing something wrong. hate the game, not the gamers. > [@Quor\_Dresden](#): > > Which is BS. Are you saying that no one can learn from reading? indeed, learning alone is never enough. All you get is theory, so you are not able to talk about practice. When you read opinion of other people, all you have is THEIR opinion, not yours. That’s why I talked about echo chamber. > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > You can still enjoy the new content. The respawn timer and reduced loot do not in any way change the experience of fighting the NPCs, if that is genuinely what you enjoy. No you can’t. having to wait 10 min between each 4-min session effectively killed that content. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/288 "2020-01-25T23:05:48Z")
Don’t mistake my opinion for what CCP does. I’m a volunteer; don’t try and go putting words in my mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/289 "2020-01-25T23:53:27Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > No you can’t. having to wait 10 min between each 4-min session effectively killed that content. Only if you are farming it. If you just want to run a site because it is fun you won’t be experiencing many of those 10 minute waits, and you probably won’t be finishing it in a perfect 4 minutes. I’m not sure why this is at all controversial given the fact that the people whining about the nerf are openly admitting that their issue is the reduced ISK/hour, not having to have idle time between fun experiences. I guarantee you that the vast majority of the complaints would instantly disappear if the 10 minute respawn timer was left as it is now but the value of each site was buffed to put the ISK/hour from farming the sites back to where it was. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/290 "2020-01-26T00:06:34Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > I’m not sure why this is at all controversial Well because this is BS. The site is very hard to do with “standard” fits, eg fits made for L4, or for ded3/4/5 fits. In order to do that site, you must prepare a dedicated fit. So no, you don’t do it “for the fun”, because it requires to have a dedicated fit. > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > I guarantee you that the vast majority of the complaints would instantly disappear I am not complaining. But I would find it stupid if the value was multiplied by 3, with the 10min delay, because it basically means there is no point in competing in it. What I am saying is, that the activity is worthless now - not that that the nerf was not needed. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209.md?page=14)