# Did CCP secretly nerf Emerging Conduit as of today? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209 "2020-01-23T11:47:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/371 "2020-01-28T11:21:49Z")
Being afraid of humans interactions because “it might go wrong” is absolutely not what I’ll call “more grown up than me”, and even less what I will call “just normal and sensible”. Yeah, world is a scary place, and humans are far from all being friendly and perfects. You can choose to avoid all of them, or to deal with it and quickly discover that if assholes does exist, most people are just like you. Then again if staying alone and hidden is what you call “grown up” and “normal and sensible” then fair enough, that’s his life and he can do whatever he want with it. ---
**Author:** ![Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zirconium_solkaze/32/173693_2.png) [@Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zirconium_Solkaze)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/372 "2020-01-28T11:22:51Z")
I was thinking about what he’s done in real life versus a video game, that once it dies, all your time and efforts disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/373 "2020-01-28T11:23:49Z")
Well, yeah, but… How is that relevant to the topic of “should you avoid other players or not” ? ---
**Author:** ![Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zirconium_solkaze/32/173693_2.png) [@Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zirconium_Solkaze)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/374 "2020-01-28T11:24:11Z")
How can you claim he’s not sensible and normal by not falling into traps? ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/375 "2020-01-28T11:25:28Z")
You are the one who said he won’t ever fly with anyone but you. That’s not just “not falling into traps”. Well it work, of course if you don’t interact with anybody you do avoid traps, but you mostly avoid all kind of positive interactions too. ---
**Author:** ![Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zirconium_solkaze/32/173693_2.png) [@Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zirconium_Solkaze)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/376 "2020-01-28T11:25:44Z")
I never said he doesn’t fly with anyone but me. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/377 "2020-01-28T11:26:41Z")
Hmm, that’s true, after reading again you said “not with strangers”, my bad on that. Tho at some point you have to interact with people for them not to be all “strangers” ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Stille\_Nacht](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stille_nacht/32/170263_2.png) [@Stille\_Nacht](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stille_Nacht)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/378 "2020-01-28T16:33:07Z")
> [@January 2020 Release - General Feedback](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2020-release-general-feedback/212010/135): > > Who’s farm trash and botter filth now? That’s what I always hear about all things belongs to NS ISK activities. When the adjustment of the ores in null sec came, there was much less mi mi mi than what is going on here. There you can see where the whole farm trash and botter dirck is hanging out. Shame on you. It’s a good thing it was adjusted. It’s best to cut everything drastically in HS, so that the players get to know other areas. Peace. ---
**Author:** ![Stille\_Nacht](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stille_nacht/32/170263_2.png) [@Stille\_Nacht](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stille_Nacht)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/379 "2020-01-28T16:37:50Z")
> [@REV001](#): > > No skill injectors no 1 day chars that can run conduits with battleships… Char Bazaar still exists ---
**Author:** ![cMo\_McCloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cmo_mccloud/32/309812_2.png) [@cMo\_McCloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cMo_McCloud)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/380 "2020-01-28T18:16:39Z")
Dude, stop acting like you know the game, or that you have even tried very much, people like to be in multiple areas, doing different things. I’ve spent most of my eve career in null but we need low and hi sec as well, diversity. You are not even making that much so get over yourself. ---
**Author:** ![cMo\_McCloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cmo_mccloud/32/309812_2.png) [@cMo\_McCloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cMo_McCloud)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/381 "2020-01-28T18:20:52Z")
Well I’m not psychic and your aren’t very articulated so I had to ask. To answer your question, you had to have a decent fit, solo wasn’t easy, small fleet was doable. If you didn’t pay attention you died. You were not making more then incursions so I would say that is was a pretty decent risk vs reward. ---
**Author:** ![cMo\_McCloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cmo_mccloud/32/309812_2.png) [@cMo\_McCloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cMo_McCloud)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/382 "2020-01-28T18:23:49Z")
50m an hour per account is not very much, that’s pretty low. But for a casual activity in hi sec it was fun to do sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/383 "2020-01-28T18:26:18Z")
Firstly, I have never said how much or little I am making. Not once. Bc I know how much it is - not a lot. I have, however, frequently stated how I am not a “many years player” of this game and have often pointed out how much I do not know or even know about. What I did say was that asking for something that already exists is not only daft but a waste of time. Bc it does exist and asking for it is a waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/384 "2020-01-28T18:33:46Z")
> [@cMo\_McCloud](#): > > 50m an hour per account is not very much, that’s pretty low. I think you missed the point. It wasn’t 50 / hour. it was 150 / hour. Now it’s nearer to 50 I believe, maybe still 75. ---
**Author:** ![cMo\_McCloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cmo_mccloud/32/309812_2.png) [@cMo\_McCloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cMo_McCloud)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/385 "2020-01-28T18:50:46Z")
> I think you missed the point. > It wasn’t 50 / hour. it was 150 / hour. > Now it’s nearer to 50 I believe, maybe still 75. I think you missed the point, it was 150/hr for 3 accounts, that’s abysmal as far as isk earning goes. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/386 "2020-01-28T18:52:21Z")
> [@cMo\_McCloud](#): > > we need low and hi sec as well, diversity. No we don’t. Farmer trash with an inflated sense of their own importance needs highsec because they can’t succeed anywhere else. EVE doesn’t need highsec in its current state or those players. The only highsec space that is actually required is a small tutorial region where players can learn the game before moving out into the real world. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/387 "2020-01-28T18:53:02Z")
> [@cMo\_McCloud](#): > > I think you missed the point, it was 150/hr for 3 accounts, No… The figures given in this thread were 400 to 500 an hour for 3 accounts. Also 50 per hour isn’t abysmal. Its actually a pretty normal income. Used to be considered a great income for highsec. This just shows how much isk generation in highsec has grown lately when people consider 50 per hour to be terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/388 "2020-01-28T21:58:03Z")
> [@cMo\_McCloud](#): > > Well I’m not psychic Don’t need to be psychic to read mate. > [@cMo\_McCloud](#): > > To answer your question, you had to have a decent fit, solo wasn’t easy, small fleet was doable. If you didn’t pay attention you died. You were not making more then incursions so I would say that is was a pretty decent risk vs reward. They were done solo in barely skilled praxis by bots that warped in and turned on mods… They weren’t tough sites. They were intended for new players. But they were farmed to the tune of ridiculous isk/hour by older players using multiple accounts to exploit the payment mechanic and quick respawn. So people were earning far higher pay than most other hi-sec content and some low sec content without anymore risk or difficulty than running hi-sec missions or anoms. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/389 "2020-01-29T13:47:10Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > They weren’t tough sites. They were intended for new players. lol. Please, try them. Before you talk. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > So people were earning far higher pay than most other hi-sec content source ? I highly doubt bots were doing 100M/h. And FYI 100M/h is doable with exploration/anom in HS. Also doable easily in HS in raw isk. Therefore it’s possible that the average conduit farmers were doing less than the average other farmers in HS. Now, the generation of isk (site completion + red loot) may have been the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/390 "2020-01-29T14:57:13Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Please, try them. Before you talk. Yeah i have been. You’re confusing how difficult they were to run with how much effort you put into them to maximise farming. They are not tough sites. People are soloing them in passive drakes and praxis. And bots are warping on grid and activating mods…rinse repeat. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > source The claims in this thread. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > RIP easy 200M/h in HS 😕 So you make 200 per hour doing other hi-sec content? Cause the last time something like this came up you said you didn’t. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Therefore it’s possible that the average conduit farmers were doing less than the average other farmers in HS. Lol no. The average mission runner and the average anom runner is getting much less than 100mil isk/hour. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209.md?page=19)