# Did CCP secretly nerf Emerging Conduit as of today?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 23, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209 "2020-01-23T11:47:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/83 "2020-01-23T21:22:13Z")

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> [@Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](#):
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> OFC they won’t

ayy, glad you understand why it would not be in CCP’d interest to reveal specific information, nice job dear.

Sucks that your easily afk-able and bot-able source of near risk-free wealth got nerfed. But you know what they say. Adapt or die.

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**Author:** ![Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wade_deadpool_willson/32/169216_2.png) [@Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wade_Deadpool_Willson)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/84 "2020-01-23T21:23:25Z")

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You will not die since you don’t play, happy posting.

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**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/85 "2020-01-23T21:23:58Z")

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Rather than trying to catch the bots, simply make the content complicated enough so you can’t bot it.  
Ever heard people afk data/relic sites? I don’t, and I don’t think such thing exists.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/86 "2020-01-23T21:26:30Z")

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> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> Ever heard people afk data/relic sites? I don’t, and I don’t think such thing exists

Actually I think there are bots for data and relic sites.

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**Author:** ![Jesril](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jesril/32/181375_2.png) [@Jesril](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jesril)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/87 "2020-01-23T21:30:06Z")

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I just started playing a few weeks ago after a 7 year hiatus and am now immediately reminded of the reasons that I stopped playing. CCP tends to try to solve every problem by taking things away from the player and trying to force them to leave HiSec and participate in a part of the game they do not like - namely getting blobbed by a bunch of people who themselves have ISK fawcetts available to them with very little risk.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/88 "2020-01-23T21:30:22Z")

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> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> Ever heard people afk data/relic sites? I don’t, and I don’t think such thing exists.

These exist and have existed since 2016, iirc.

> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> Rather than trying to catch the bots, simply make the content complicated enough so you can’t bot it.

I’m sure every game developer on the planet would love to hear your fix of making contact that is “complicated enough so you can’t bot it.”

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**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/89 "2020-01-23T21:31:23Z")

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> [@Chan\_aar](#):
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> Actually I think there are bots for data and relic sites.

Ugh…you learn something new everyday.

Still the idea is the same, make it harder to bot. I remember you said something about making the sites more variable, which might be a better solution…

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**Author:** ![Black\_Ace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_ace/32/181381_2.png) [@Black\_Ace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Ace)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/90 "2020-01-23T21:36:24Z")

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Very pissed off about this nerf. I spent the last week optimizing these sites for myself as a way of making money during off times and now all that time is wasted. Everyone has already said a lot of the things on my mind but I’ll add one more. Punishing a player base because of someone doing ■■■■ they aren’t supposed to be doing is unacceptable to me. Hoping that CCP will revert this change by making the sites more variable or more dynamic in some way instead of just taking it away. Doubt that will ever happen but a man can dream. RIP the time I spent working on these…

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/91 "2020-01-23T21:38:28Z")

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I don’t know about you guys, but making over 400m isk per hour in near risk-free sites seems kinda broken to me. Look at all these kids crying about how their risk free isk faucet was finally turned off.

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**Author:** ![Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wade_deadpool_willson/32/169216_2.png) [@Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wade_Deadpool_Willson)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/92 "2020-01-23T21:40:19Z")

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I really do not know where you get all those numbers make it 500 to be round or better 1B why not mister of Mutual Admiration Society.

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**Author:** ![Caroline\_728F](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caroline_728f/32/181382_2.png) [@Caroline\_728F](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caroline_728F)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/93 "2020-01-23T21:41:02Z")

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The thing with riding a horse that high is when you’re about to fall, ground is far, far away.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/94 "2020-01-23T21:41:22Z")

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> [@Caroline\_728F](#):
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> The thing with riding a horse that high is when you’re about to fall,

Good thing I’m fly af then. 🕶

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**Author:** ![Caroline\_728F](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caroline_728f/32/181382_2.png) [@Caroline\_728F](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caroline_728F)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/95 "2020-01-23T21:43:12Z")

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Sounds about right, considering the quality of argument.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/96 "2020-01-23T21:44:22Z")

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> [@Caroline\_728F](#):
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> Sounds about right,

You’re welcome babe.

Though you didn’t really make any argument that I needed to address. You just made some weird comment as if it were some profound saying or something.

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**Author:** ![Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legit_hypern_et/32/181363_2.png) [@Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legit_HyperN_et)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/97 "2020-01-23T21:47:34Z")

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The cap is set at 5 survey per player per hour.

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**Author:** ![Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zirconium_solkaze/32/173693_2.png) [@Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zirconium_Solkaze)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/98 "2020-01-23T21:57:51Z")

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No one earned anywhere near that much and most certainly not your maxed out vindis. At least not on one account.

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**Author:** ![Dof](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dof/32/492766_2.png) [@Dof](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dof)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/99 "2020-01-23T22:04:31Z")

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And where is the post where they announced that?

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**Author:** ![Caroline\_728F](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caroline_728f/32/181382_2.png) [@Caroline\_728F](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caroline_728F)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/100 "2020-01-23T22:14:28Z")

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I was actually addressing an argument you’ve made, but it comes as no surprise this quite obvious statement completely escaped you. Something tells me this is a constant.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/101 "2020-01-23T22:19:23Z")

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> [@Dof](#):
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> And where is the post where they announced that?

Its in the patch notes [https://www.eveonline.com/article/q46atf/patch-notes-for-january-2020-release](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q46atf/patch-notes-for-january-2020-release)

Specifically - _“The respawn rates and loot chances for the Emerging Conduits have been adjusted”_

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**Author:** ![Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wade_deadpool_willson/32/169216_2.png) [@Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wade_Deadpool_Willson)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/102 "2020-01-23T22:24:36Z")

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That was very misleading and confusing since they did it today. So one could think it refers to the past. Plus they were not adjusted, they were just hammered! But that has been the constant CCP PR strategy to make fools of players.

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