# Did CCP secretly nerf Emerging Conduit as of today? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209 "2020-01-23T11:47:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/163 "2020-01-24T17:04:20Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Trying to restrict speech when it does not go his way, typical bittervet Didn’t go my way? I think the nerf is Fing awesome, you are the one weeping in three threads. Try using the correct feedback location: > [@January 2020 Release - General Feedback](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2020-release-general-feedback/212010/): > > Hello, Please use this thread for general feedback. Quick Info: [Full Patch Notes](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q46atf/patch-notes-for-january-2020-release) Other Information Threads: [Known Issues Thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2020-release-known-issues/212009)[Known Issues & Feedback Thread (Mac)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2020-release-feedback-known-issues-mac/212013) For additional information about the contents of the release, please check our [News Item](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q4752o/dragonaur-blitz-and-warhead-upgrades-now-live). ---
**Author:** ![Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wade_deadpool_willson/32/169216_2.png) [@Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wade_Deadpool_Willson)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/164 "2020-01-24T17:05:15Z")
Maybe you should ask that question to yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/165 "2020-01-24T17:05:20Z")
> Didn’t go my way? I think the nerf is Fing awesome, you are the one weeping in three threads. > > Try using the correct feedback location: And people complaining about it goes against your interests of a destroyed highsec, so you try to waste ISD time in the hope that they can restrict your opponents from speaking ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/166 "2020-01-24T17:06:55Z")
Erm… ask what? ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/167 "2020-01-24T17:11:09Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > The content was too easy for the rewards provided. Agreed. So you are referring to Nullsec Anomalies, right??? ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/168 "2020-01-24T17:11:12Z")
As stated above, > [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > I personally think anything that is added to the game that can be AFK is garbage. While 120 moons would be a little hard to run, the point is that there are TONS of moons to mine any kind of Veld ore. While high sec has no solo activies that pay well at all. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/169 "2020-01-24T17:12:43Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > > The content was too easy for the rewards provided. > > Agreed. So you are referring to Nullsec Anomalies, right??? If that is the case then they can close all these threads and you guys can farm the Nullsec Anomalies, right??? ---
**Author:** ![Quor\_Dresden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quor_dresden/32/277545_2.png) [@Quor\_Dresden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quor_Dresden)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/170 "2020-01-24T17:13:47Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > The concern as well is losing those new players. Already my corp is forced to try and give them content with lv4 missions, a vast reduction in isk making compared to the EC, and not as accessible, since only omegas can spawn the mission, You just described a good reason for the change. Just from reading a good number of posts in this thread, clearly emerging conduits are being spammed all over. Bots or not that is ridiculous. They were far to easy to spam without even leaving a system. Now at least you have to wait, or jump from system to system looking for spawns. Not sure I agree with any loot nerfs, but the spawn timer is a good change. Get people flying around, maybe even competing for sites. It may, and it’s a big maybe, balance out the value of loot/ salvage in the market. Eventually making emerging conduits have similar value as they did before. Hey and maybe Vindi’s will finally get back to a reasonable price again. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/171 "2020-01-24T17:14:20Z")
Wrong. Again. You can do loads of stuff solo in HS and make isk. If you can’t work out how maybe play Candy Crush or something. Either way, you clearly don’t know what your daft ‘suggestion’ would entail so it has no real impact. Thanks for trying though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/172 "2020-01-24T17:24:41Z")
As stated above, “pay well”. -Most activities in high sec barely cover cost if you don’t have any losses or a couple that can make you ok isk if you grind them hard but nothing even close to what players have stated they got from EC. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/173 "2020-01-24T17:34:43Z")
> Agreed. So you are referring to Nullsec Anomalies, right??? Got em, time to nerf all nullsec anomalies by a 50% payout/loot and have them take 20 minutes to spawn. Nullsec needs a nerf ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/174 "2020-01-24T17:41:04Z")
> You just described a good reason for the change. Just from reading a good number of posts in this thread, clearly emerging conduits are being spammed all over. Bots or not that is ridiculous. They were far to easy to spam without even leaving a system. Nullsec gets 30+ sites that immediately respawn, if you argue this then you wouldn’t have any problem with applying the same to nullsec? If no, then restricting access by having to move while harming the botters and elite farmers also harms the new players who do the sites. The biggest issue is EC are arguable the SOLE way for newbies to make decent money, incursions are too advanced for them, lv4 are omega only, and invasions need a large fleet which takes time to form. Hence new players just got their sole source of income nerfed, unless you think they should be mining in a venture. > Now at least you have to wait, or jump from system to system looking for spawns. Not sure I agree with any loot nerfs, but the spawn timer is a good change. Get people flying around, maybe even competing for sites. Competition already occurred, I had many people try to run me out of a site, especially in active times when systems were crowded and you didn’t want to travel 15j for a system. They already competed, this just makes competition pointless since the rewards are terrible now. > It may, and it’s a big maybe, balance out the value of loot/ salvage in the market. Eventually making emerging conduits have similar value as they did before. Hey and maybe Vindi’s will finally get back to a reasonable price again. The majority of the loot was worthless as is, the only decent loot was the surveys, which you stockpiled and sold to NPC buy orders or players for a slightly lower price. It was random too, some sites you hit jackpot and got 30m in surveys, others you get no loot (had it happen). Abyssal sites already dropped the value of the mutaplasmids etc, so I disagree with your argument on loot balancing itself out. Vindicators also primarily have their price reflected by nullsec ratters, its why the bhaalgorn is cheap, and other pirate battleship are more expensive. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/175 "2020-01-24T17:43:16Z")
> Wrong. Again. > > You can do loads of stuff solo in HS and make isk. If you can’t work out how maybe play Candy Crush or something. Either way, you clearly don’t know what your daft ‘suggestion’ would entail so it has no real impact. > > Thanks for trying though 🙂 Nope, you clearly just want highsec nerfed, all that will do is cause thousands of players to leave the game. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/176 "2020-01-24T17:44:33Z")
Sorry but I don’t speak Tin-Foil-Hat. Translator required: Apply within. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/177 "2020-01-24T17:44:55Z")
> As stated above, “pay well”. -Most activities in high sec barely cover cost if you don’t have any losses or a couple that can make you ok isk if you grind them hard but nothing even close to what players have stated they got from EC. I think he knows that, remember most of those against highsec wish to see it destroyed, in the hope that people will leave highsec into their place of gameplay for pvp. But instead they leave the game, and everyone is worse off for it. ---
**Author:** ![Geronimo\_BallSlap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geronimo_ballslap/32/181504_2.png) [@Geronimo\_BallSlap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geronimo_BallSlap)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/178 "2020-01-24T17:45:35Z")
Lame CCP… I’m voting with my wallet (no more Omega from me =)) and I suggest others do the same, so many other games to be playing. CCP not interested in supporting the super limited content there is, there are games that will… L8r G8rs! ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/179 "2020-01-24T17:46:29Z")
> Lame CCP… I’m voting with my wallet (no more Omega from me =)) and I suggest others do the same, so many other games to be playing. CCP not interested in supporting the super limited content there is, there are games that will… > > L8r G8rs! See, he didn’t go to nullsec or lowsec or wormholes, he leaves the game, or plays as an alpha. Bad for the game overall. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/180 "2020-01-24T17:48:35Z")
Dude posts he is leaving the game but has never posted having only just joined the forums and literally seconds later the post is c/p and a stupid ‘point’ added. Stupid random alt confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![Caroline\_728F](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caroline_728f/32/181382_2.png) [@Caroline\_728F](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caroline_728F)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/181 "2020-01-24T18:25:11Z")
> [@Legit\_HyperN\_et](#): > > - remove L3 and L4 missions from highsec completely so the new players have incentive to move on. > - remove ore anoms, ice anoms, and anything beyond veldspar and scordite in HS > - Incursions removed from HS > - trig invasions and emerging conduits further reduce payouts in HS - have escalations to low and nullsec for the primo rewards And why is it that such changes should be introduced? How is it fair that hi-sec bottable activities are being nerfed while equally bottable activities in null aren’t? How is it fair that one group of players should be forced to drop their habits and venture into different playstyle they don’t wish to engage in? If it’s fair then how about you leave null and mine in hi for 1/10th of the income? No? Didn’t think so. There already is an incentive to leave hisec space - much better income. And yet people don’t engage with that content - ever thought why? Why don’t you grace that subject with your think-tank process, maybe you’ll discover how to properly encourage people to go to null space, and no - not through restrictions on hisec content. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209/182 "2020-01-24T18:49:32Z")
> [@Caroline\_728F](#): > > How is it fair that hi-sec bottable activities are being nerfed while equally bottable activities in null aren’t? Because in null the players can kill the bots. DUH? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-ccp-secretly-nerf-emerging-conduit-as-of-today/213209.md?page=10)