# Did population increase after black out ended? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 17, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791 "2019-09-17T18:06:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/korgoth_of-barbaria/32/131066_2.png) [@Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Korgoth_of-Barbaria)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/41 "2019-09-19T12:39:18Z")
…and I’m sorry that you’re so boring and unoriginal that clicking red dots on a screen and hiding from players is something you do for fun. The game is certainly poorer without the players interaction that made it great. Go farm your sinking ship, what do I care at this point? I’m leaving. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/42 "2019-09-19T13:56:25Z")
Can you do this a little bit sooner? We have already many whiners around lately. ---
**Author:** ![Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/korgoth_of-barbaria/32/131066_2.png) [@Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Korgoth_of-Barbaria)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/43 "2019-09-19T15:23:21Z")
I’m donating the majority of my isk and assets to CODE, and since it’s spread all over and I have to consolidate it, also giving it away to cool players I meet in local along the way. Not in a hurry. Handed out 2 billion-worth of isk and items in Jita local last night, most fun I’ve had in awhile. I’m dragging my feet, I’ll admit, because it’s hard to leave a game you’ve played for years. I won’t miss the isk but I will miss all the great players, so I’d rather take my time with this and help them on my way out. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/44 "2019-09-19T15:27:43Z")
I’m thinking on doing the same but too lazy to install EvE and log in. Well… Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/korgoth_of-barbaria/32/131066_2.png) [@Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Korgoth_of-Barbaria)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/45 "2019-09-19T17:39:00Z")
Thanks! I’m not biomassing so I may be back not anytime soon, but a fresh start might make things interesting again. Who knows. If I see ya in local, gimme a shout and I’ll throw some isk your way also. Good luck to you also. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/46 "2019-09-19T17:46:56Z")
> [@Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](#): > > I’m leaving Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/47 "2019-09-19T18:01:22Z")
I’ll just leave this here. week ago (Wednesday, 11 Sept 19): ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/4/647e189c13fdc9a44c646f53977bceddfccba8c1.png) yesterday (Wednesday, 18 Sept 19): ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/9/59a9b38d5acd8056e8b8872eb2c8f77c1fb890d4.png) And thats in alliance that had its [250-member corp fully banned for botting in july](https://www.eveonline.com/article/pwp24p/monthly-security-report-july-2019) ---
**Author:** ![Kynami\_Vaille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kynami_vaille/32/229160_2.png) [@Kynami\_Vaille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kynami_Vaille)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/48 "2019-09-19T18:11:00Z")
The main take away from that is that 3-4 sites in a one day period was enough to flag a system as moderate activity under blackout. It has since re-calibrated obviously. Yes botting is bad, but you cannot expect the players to shoulder heavy handed tactics without some form of mitigation… especially since the bots simply moved _elsewhere_ during black out while regular players simply said screw it and stopped playing. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/49 "2019-09-19T18:20:40Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > I’m thinking on doing the same but too lazy to install EvE and log in. et tu @March_rabbit ? Ah,man… 😕 Another familiar forum face fading away… Well, I hope you do find your motivation to get to EvE as I would gratefully accept any stuff you might give me. Please explain your character name before you go, I’ve always kind of wondered. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/50 "2019-09-19T18:28:05Z")
Currently thinking of upgrading my computer to somehow move out of last decade though also feel some concern that if I were to upgrade I would not reinstall Eve Online. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/51 "2019-09-19T18:43:30Z")
The pure fact that Null did not have massive battles during the BO shows how safe Null is and how broken it is. A lot of players refused to log in and no one used it to smash someone elses territory shows that it is a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Jayka\_Kyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayka_kyer/32/261592_2.png) [@Jayka\_Kyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayka_Kyer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/52 "2019-09-19T18:43:47Z")
The problem is, Eve even in the state its in has nothing even close to it that you could jump ship too. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/korgoth_of-barbaria/32/131066_2.png) [@Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Korgoth_of-Barbaria)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/53 "2019-09-19T21:18:26Z")
Yes, long term consistently paying customers such as myself leaving is such a good thing for CCP and the future of this game. …and looking at the slow decline these past few years, despite alpha clones, injectors and everything else, it’s likely I’m not the only one headed out. Idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/korgoth_of-barbaria/32/131066_2.png) [@Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Korgoth_of-Barbaria)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/54 "2019-09-19T21:22:37Z")
Exactly, great point. What a wasted opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/55 "2019-09-19T22:17:27Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > How do you manage to die to a blob when everything docks? Nice try funny guy, its advance intel that led to the blob on the gate. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/56 "2019-09-20T05:46:43Z")
> [@](#): > > everything docking up the second you enter local and then dying to a blob. Still. Chain of events: 1. You enter the system and appear in local 2. Everyone docks up 3. … 4. You die to a blob > [@Caleb\_Seremshur](#): > > Nice try funny guy, its advance intel that led to the blob on the gate. According to your own story everyone was docked up when you died. There should be something you didn’t say about the situation. 😉 > [@Kynami\_Vaille](#): > > Probably overstays his welcome when the ratting fits all dock up and then reship to something more appropriate… given that PvE fits are horrendous at PvP. > > Its not that he can’t get content. He’s just complaining he can’t get that free content that can’t fight back and doesn’t play the helldunk or blueball like the entire game is balanced around isk and risk wise. Friends OP plz nerf! Definitely. It’s just funny. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/57 "2019-09-20T18:01:26Z")
> [@Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](#): > > Yes, long term consistently paying customers such as myself leaving is such a good thing for CCP and the future of this game. I never said such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/58 "2019-09-20T18:08:38Z")
> [@Korgoth\_of-Barbaria](#): > > …long term consistently paying customers such as myself… @Korgoth_of-Barbaria Does CCP make money from players using PLEX for gametime? ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/59 "2019-09-20T18:11:46Z")
No. They make money selling ISK for cash. Stop trying to pretend those who buy PLEX of the market are doing some kind of service because they are not. They could be replaced with a computer generated loot box. ---
**Author:** ![Induce\_Deadline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/induce_deadline/32/418955_2.png) [@Induce\_Deadline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Induce_Deadline)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791/60 "2019-09-20T18:24:18Z")
I suspect the numbers won’t return to what they were until the cyno changes are reverted. I’ve got a 25% resub discount on my accounts to return, but i won’t consider it whilst i cant use my capital toys! Spent 3 years skilling up capital accounts, I expect to be able to use them without needing yet another account to act as a blops/recon cyno Such an odd dev team, spend their time inventing inconveniences when other games spend their time providing content. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-population-increase-after-black-out-ended/190791.md?page=4)