# Did they secretly buff Abyssal Vedmaks or their AI?

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**Created:** [August 7, 2021, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-they-secretly-buff-abyssal-vedmaks-or-their-ai/322856 "2021-08-07T05:14:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Theodyval\_Kinging1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theodyval_kinging1/32/415265_2.png) [@Theodyval\_Kinging1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theodyval_Kinging1)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-they-secretly-buff-abyssal-vedmaks-or-their-ai/322856/1 "2021-08-07T05:14:49Z")

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Until recently I’ve been able to do level 4 exotic and gamma filaments practically with my eyes closed, but I’ve lost two fairly blinged out ships lately to the starving vedmak/starving damavik/ghosting damavik combo. It may be that vedmaks’ ability to repair frigates has been improved, but I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed a recent spike in difficulty.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-they-secretly-buff-abyssal-vedmaks-or-their-ai/322856/2 "2021-08-07T06:54:39Z")

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If so it would be a good thing. Abyssal space was introduced with the premise that you should not be able to run it with your eyes closed like the old PvE. Plus, CCP stated at the introduction that frequent change would take place to keep the activity hard to predict and automate.

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-they-secretly-buff-abyssal-vedmaks-or-their-ai/322856/3 "2021-08-07T18:24:41Z")

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> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#):
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> Abyssal space was introduced with the premise that you should not be able to run it with your eyes closed

How long does it take you to complete Tranquil Exotic? 19 minutes and 46 seconds?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-they-secretly-buff-abyssal-vedmaks-or-their-ai/322856/4 "2021-11-05T18:25:09Z")

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