# Did you vote for CSM 19? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 18, 2024, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003 "2024-10-18T12:14:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/41 "2024-10-21T19:17:46Z")
often, and my answers usually suffice m ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/42 "2024-10-21T19:22:05Z")
You know what they say… Those who seek political office are the least deserving. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/43 "2024-10-21T19:28:07Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Those who seek political office are the least deserving. I do love a good Douglas Adams reference they say if you don’t vote, you get the government you deserve m ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/44 "2024-10-21T19:28:49Z")
That’s only true in a democracy. There’s nothing democratic about an election where you can buy unlimited votes. Have you ever taken a civics course? ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/45 "2024-10-21T19:39:08Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > There’s nothing democratic about an election where you can buy unlimited votes. > > Have you ever taken a civics course? unlimited? well I suppose that is possible if you have unlimited funds. (I don’t) Taken? Yes. Taught? Also yes. m ---
**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/46 "2024-10-21T19:41:06Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > they say if you don’t vote, you get the government you deserve But what really happens, is you get the government the most stupid majority deserves. ---
**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/47 "2024-10-21T19:48:34Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > they say if you don’t vote, you get the government you deserve Does that mean that if we vote we get the government we _don’t_ deserve or how does that work? ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/48 "2024-10-21T19:54:20Z")
actually? That latter part of the quote is # and if you do, you never get the results you expected.” ― E.A. Bucchianeri, [Brushstrokes of a Gadfly](https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/16351434) m ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/49 "2024-10-21T20:04:15Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > I am running again this year Thanks for showing up. Reminded me I hadn’t voted yet. 25+ votes coming your way shortly. Good luck! Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/50 "2024-10-21T20:13:00Z")
Thank you very much m ---
**Author:** ![Nemo\_HF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nemo_hf/32/433318_2.png) [@Nemo\_HF](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nemo_HF)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/51 "2024-10-21T22:26:16Z")
@mike_azariah This is a throw away account (and go to sell the character in two months) , but i am a player with around 10 years here Currently have nine accounts omega nd all you were the 1st option. My process in this year to choose for why vote, was exporting to excel the list of candidates/alliances published by TAGN, erase all goons, erase all init brave, and check carefully the Horde remainers. Then i fill with them in 2nd places, dalros guy and some of the high sec candidates to fill the 10. My reasons to erase all goons and brave init are not personal. In first hand i see some things in their recruitment of kicking process, and some friends were affected. Currently the ones with some spinning capitals and me, move to horde for that pilots, and to highsec owned corporations, some public some of ourselves. My only doubt of inlcude or not in my votes was the AUTH alliance code creator and the only ESI focused. But was in the ballot of imperium then i choose no vote. By the way exist the rumour of one fanfest session who the devs says esi is out , i dont know, but ESI look broken, dead / rotten and is affecting some of us. If the future of ESI can be make clearer, will be better. As a high sec player (work reasons) i think the scarcity is too much in many levels and is ridiclous is better mine in a venture in pochven than a skiff in 0.9 system, and less risk and time. This is … not right . Omega for why ? To finish my post, thanks Mike, but many of us thinks you are the only decent people candidate this batch (missing steve rokunen) judging by forums and your videos. Write more in your blog please ! Can i ask to made the point to CCP to made an expert system for DST ? (no much use of my omegas) and already 50000 PLEX for sold my big pilots i dont use anymore. thanks for be here ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Flapper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_flapper/32/468293_2.png) [@Lily\_Flapper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Flapper)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/52 "2024-10-22T03:12:51Z")
I had been ordered to log in and vote for you Mike Best of Luck o7 / Your vote in the CSM Election was anonymously registered at 2024-10-22 03:51:17. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/53 "2024-10-22T06:41:22Z")
> [@Lily\_Flapper](#): > > I had been ordered to log in and vote for you Mike I happen to recognize who that voter is and as a result also am aware who ordered the vote. 😉 😇 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antihrist_pripravnik/32/502236_2.png) [@Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Antihrist_Pripravnik)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/54 "2024-10-22T09:03:05Z")
Yes. I either know (personally) or follow on Twitch/YouTube the candidates I’ve voted for and know that they are reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/55 "2024-10-22T11:32:01Z")
Thank you for schooling the wanna be princess class clown. Hopefully they settle down and learn to behave. You’ve had my vote. Keep up the good work. ---
**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/56 "2024-10-23T00:28:54Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > I do love a good Douglas Adams reference It is Plato. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/57 "2024-10-23T00:49:17Z")
> [@Laubrani](#): > > It is Plato. Nah, he said Plato said: “The heaviest penalty for declining to rule is to be ruled by someone inferior to yourself.” m ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/58 "2024-10-23T00:52:42Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > Plato said: “The heaviest penalty for declining to rule is to be ruled by someone inferior to yourself.” One of my favorite quotes from _Mediations_ is: > The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ---
**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/59 "2024-10-23T02:31:26Z")
It is not a direct quote. Adam is referencing Plato’s The Republic, where the values of men (and women, very important to note here, that there is no sexism, they use he and man in all subjects, but they always want women to be taught and valued in exactly the same manners as the man described). And where they show that a good person will never want power, and therefore any who wants power for the sake of power, is an evil man, and therefore unfit to wield power. This is where the whole part with Adam’s President Of The Galaxy comes from. It is not something Adam’s has made up, he is merely referencing Plato et al (Which exact credit Socrates, Glaucon etc deserves for their parts, is as far as I know unknown, ie was Plato sitting making a transcript of the talks, or did he later make up the talks using the people’s personalities to try explain through dialogue. But it is Plato’s desires to maintain and combine these talks, that make us have and even know about them, which is why I use his name to refer to them). However isn’t this thread being trolled a bit into a Mike For CSM campaign, and rather off the topic on if people cared to vote? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003/60 "2024-10-23T03:08:22Z")
> [@Laubrani](#): > > However isn’t this thread being trolled a bit into a Mike For CSM campaign, and rather off the topic on if people cared to vote? Strange, I was just getting ready to say something similar… Like please take all the political viewpoints and discussions over to Jita Park subforum where they belong… Just a friendly reminder to everybody that the topic of this thread was a simple question requiring a single yes or no answer with no lengthy drawn out explanation for that answer… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/did-you-vote-for-csm-19/465003.md?page=4)