# Directly addess Aiko Danuja comments about ganking **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [February 22, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807 "2022-02-22T16:34:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/163 "2022-02-23T10:17:37Z")
> [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > You are taking that the wrong way, the real challenge was originally come to low sec. That was first. The second request was to draw people out. Hence i switched to a low sec corp. > > But what i find even more interesting is the fact you acknowledge with this accusation that there is a heartless factor to ganking. of course i expect you now to dodge your glaring admission this is abuse and heartlessness. You of course didn’t consider that because you dont really understand the concept and are using it for advantage in an argument. > > So what was all these arguments for if you admit the sociopath nature of ganking. CCP is not stupid ganking is like victim porn to most of these depraved people. Not sure if you are one of them or not. Wut. I’m calling you heartless, not ganking. Learn to read LOL. You gave an open challenge, dared people to come kill you and then bailed on the corp. Hell, I myself almost murdered your Dune friends today till I realized you’d switched corps 😃 The heartless part is you all you sis. You baited and switched your old corp mates and left them to die 😃 Whose the real sociopath ROFL. ---
**Author:** ![Cherti\_Stardust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherti_stardust/32/312100_2.png) [@Cherti\_Stardust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherti_Stardust)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/164 "2022-02-23T10:19:19Z")
Wow you really don’t get what your saying, you’re not capable of understanding you are implicating yourself. You said the action is heartless, but i am not taking the action. You are. You do see that right? You do see you need to be responsible for your own actions. Right? You get this concept don’t you? You are trying to say i am responsible for the act of heartlessness, just because i made a challenge. You don’t actually even consider to own your own responsibility. Sociopaths believe they are a blunt instrument and other people just use them in various ways. You truly don’t get it. I think we will need to end this back and forth, there is something seriously wrong with you. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/165 "2022-02-23T10:33:51Z")
> [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > but i am not taking the action. God knows why i am going to attempt this. I must be even more bored thats usual. But here goes. The point that is being made (given the benefit of the doubt that you are actually not understanding) is that you called out gankers. Now you have on several occasions called gankers heartless, sociopaths and evil, as well as suggesting they just kill things for fun. If we accept your description of gankers then these would be exactly they kind of people that would set you and your fellow corp mates to bad standing and you know………….maybe go hunting for fun. As such you have potentially made everyone in your corp an active target of players who perhaps might want to make a statement against you and your corp for your actions in the forum. In switching corps the implication is you have left them as targets and abandoned them. Now I’m sure this was unintentionally as you don’t seem to be the kind of person that would understand the implications of their actions. At this point id question if you know what day of the week it is. However either way abandoning these players after putting them in the crosshairs of gankers is pretty cr\*ppy thing to do. But I’m sure you will have a justification for that as well. Perhaps Aiko used her mind control and made you do it? Whatever it is I look forward to the entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/166 "2022-02-23T10:34:26Z")
Eve is set in a ruthless corporate dystopia, and players are afforded the option to be a part of that setting. That is, they are allowed to be ruthless. Playing Eve is optional. If you like that setting and want to participate, you can. If you don’t like it, you can opt not to participate. People who play Eve don’t have to be ruthless. You can be any way you want to be, but you have to accept the consequences of your actions (or inactions) and those consequences include whatever the other ruthless actors decide to take advantage of you for. We all choose to be in Eve or not. We put up with people being ruthless as a form of entertainment. What you’re saying is that when someone shows up who doesn’t find that entertaining, the party is over for everyone who does enjoy that. Maybe you don’t understand how it could possibly be fun, but for some people it is. It doesn’t matter where a person makes their home. High, Low, or Null. You watch your back and you take every advantage you can get. If you don’t put forth that effort, you get dunked. You make a mistake, you get dunked. You live, you learn, you do better next time. Eve is full of second chances because you can never be made to stay dead unless you want to. Each defeat another reason to build anew so you can crush your enemies. This is just a fancy game of checkers. Nobody is supposed to get mad when they lose a checker. It’s understood that’s the point of the game. It’s not griefing to jump the opponent’s playing piece. It’s expected behavior. It’s not sociopathic to win in a game of checkers, either. It was understood at the start you were in competition. The person who loses and whines about the rules of checkers, though, would be showing some poor sportsmanship. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/167 "2022-02-23T10:36:33Z")
> [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > Wow you really don’t get what your saying, you’re not capable of understanding you are implicating yourself. You said the action is heartless, but i am not taking the action. You are. You do see that right? You do see you need to be responsible for your own actions. Right? You get this concept don’t you? You are trying to say i am responsible for the act of heartlessness, just because i made a challenge. You don’t actually even to consider to own your own responsibility. Sociopaths believe they are a blunt instrument and other people just use them in various ways. You truly don’t get it. I think we will need to end this back and forth, there is something seriously wrong with you. LOL for someone who advocates in mental health, you’ll sure engage in gas lighting if you get backed into the corner by your own incompetency huh? You are responsible 😃 You almost got them murdered today 😃 Only the fact that you switched corps saved them. And of course you were docked up in low so… I wouldn’t be surprised if they declared kanly on you. Also now I’m 88% certain you are indeed Blue. The argument pattern is very familiar. And since you murdered RvB, I guess you continued the trend to these poor Dune fans? Also unlike Etch, I do believe it was intentional 😃 You set them up. ---
**Author:** ![Cherti\_Stardust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherti_stardust/32/312100_2.png) [@Cherti\_Stardust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherti_Stardust)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/168 "2022-02-23T10:41:49Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > > [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > > > but i am not taking the action. > > God knows why i am going to attempt this. I must be even more bored thats usual. But here goes. > > The point that is being made (given the benefit of the doubt that you are actually not understanding) is that you called out gankers. Now you have on several occasions called gankers heartless, sociopaths and evil, as well as suggesting they just kill things for fun. If we accept your description of gankers then these would be exactly they kind of people that would set you and your fellow corp mates to bad standing and you know………….maybe go hunting for fun. > > As such you have potentially made everyone in your corp an active target of players who perhaps might want to make a statement against you and your corp for your actions in the forum. In switching corps the implication is you have left them as targets and abandoned them. > > Now I’m sure this was unintentionally as you don’t seem to be the kind of person that would understand the implications of their actions. At this point id question if you know what day of the week it is. However either way abandoning these players after putting them in the crosshairs of gankers is pretty cr\*ppy thing to do. > > But I’m sure you will have a justification for that as well. Perhaps Aiko used her mind control and made you do it? Whatever it is I look forward to the entertainment. You’re not attempting “this” on your alt, you are not trying to explain to me anything. You are trying to support previous words said. I did not say heartlessness, he did or you on your alt, or whoever you are to come to defend this statement magically out of nowhere. You still don’t get this is yet another statement admitting that a ganker is not responsible for their own actions. Period. No matter what i say or you say. I am not pulling the trigger and a ganker is not a gun, its a person doing an action who has their own mind. You do get this right? Tell me you people understand “personal accountability”. The victim is not the person responsible. I know that’s the game you people play. Do you know where the term gank comes from? I am very concerned about the culture of abuse the gank culture is creating. And the glaring lack of personal accountability. ---
**Author:** ![Frauke\_Aldard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frauke_aldard/32/309280_2.png) [@Frauke\_Aldard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frauke_Aldard)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/169 "2022-02-23T10:45:19Z")
I believe that ganking makes high sec a fun place. My problem with it however is that Eve hasn´t actually supported it with its own mechanic since the inception of eve (anyone remember moo?). Ganking right now is so easy it is very boring. Give gankers and prey some more mechanics to play with. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/170 "2022-02-23T10:46:04Z")
> [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > But what i find even more interesting is the fact you acknowledge with this accusation that there is a heartless factor to ganking. of course i expect you now to dodge your glaring admission this is abuse and heartlessness. > [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > I did not say heartlessness _cough_ ---
**Author:** ![Cherti\_Stardust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherti_stardust/32/312100_2.png) [@Cherti\_Stardust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherti_Stardust)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/171 "2022-02-23T10:46:18Z")
> [@Frauke\_Aldard](#): > > I believe that ganking makes high sec a fun place. My problem with it however is that Eve hasn´t actually supported it with its own mechanic since the inception of eve (anyone remember moo?). Ganking right now is so easy it is very boring. Give gankers and prey some more mechanics to play with. I agree. Very good post. Thank you for not just jumping on the bandwagon with the gankers in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Cherti\_Stardust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherti_stardust/32/312100_2.png) [@Cherti\_Stardust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherti_Stardust)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/172 "2022-02-23T10:47:46Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > > [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > > > Wow you really don’t get what your saying, you’re not capable of understanding you are implicating yourself. You said the action is heartless, but i am not taking the action. You are. You do see that right? You do see you need to be responsible for your own actions. Right? You get this concept don’t you? You are trying to say i am responsible for the act of heartlessness, just because i made a challenge. You don’t actually even to consider to own your own responsibility. Sociopaths believe they are a blunt instrument and other people just use them in various ways. You truly don’t get it. I think we will need to end this back and forth, there is something seriously wrong with you. > > LOL for someone who advocates in mental health, you’ll sure engage in gas lighting if you get backed into the corner by your own incompetency huh? > > You are responsible 😃 You almost got them murdered today 😃 Only the fact that you switched corps saved them. And of course you were docked up in low so.. > > I wouldn’t be surprised if they declared kanly on you. > > Also now I’m 88% certain you are indeed Blue. The argument pattern is very familiar. And since you murdered RvB, I guess you continued the trend to these poor Dune fans? > > Also unlike Etch, I do believe it was intentional 😃 You set them up. Ok your words are now getting very serious. Gaslighting is a form of physical abuse actually. You are accusing me of actual real life physical abuse. You need to choose your words carefully from here on in. This is real life legality. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/173 "2022-02-23T10:51:46Z")
> [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > Ok your words are now getting very serious. Gaslighting is a form of physical abuse actually. You are accusing me of actual real life physical abuse. > > You need to choose your words carefully from here on in. This is real life legality. ROFL. And now you don’t understand the law as well. And you double down. Wowzers. It also actually isn’t 😃 Hmm… I’d say 94% that you’re Blue. It must be killing you to not defend RvB huh? But thats understandable. You let them hang in the wind too 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cherti\_Stardust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherti_stardust/32/312100_2.png) [@Cherti\_Stardust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherti_Stardust)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/174 "2022-02-23T10:53:45Z")
I am not even sure what you mean by Blue. But your welcome to my real name and phone number if you like and we can start discussing next steps. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/175 "2022-02-23T10:57:12Z")
Love is in the air. It’s like a forum adaption of Romeo and Juliet. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/176 "2022-02-23T11:07:59Z")
> [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > I am not even sure what you mean by Blue. But your welcome to my real name and phone number if you like and we can start discussing next steps. Ew. I do not want to talk you in that manner. That is some major ick LOL. And yea, you do 😃 Interesting you’re attempting this narrative tho. Guess PvP didn’t mean much to you after all 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Veronique\_Schiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veronique_schiller/32/351202_2.png) [@Veronique\_Schiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veronique_Schiller)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/177 "2022-02-23T11:14:55Z")
I started as a solo ganker. Princess Aiko’s T2 Catalyst was enough to turn a Hulk into an explosion. Now exhumers are too tough for a single cat. So I hang around choke points in my shiny Falcon. Mostly I’m not able to save anyone from being ganked, and when the kill appears in chat I’m usually glad that I failed. If you’re full of cargo expanders then you deserve what you get. Maybe it’s time to get out of my Falcon and back into a Catalyst. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/178 "2022-02-23T11:25:15Z")
> [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > So you want your gameplay style to be supreme content? Why don’t you just go to low and nul? Were you kicked out of these zones? You only have high sec left to play in because your useless at real pvp. > > Does attacking people with a green button make you feel powerful. Your boredom is satisfied by people who cannot attack back. Daisy cutting is excitement to you? Have you tried therapy for that issue instead of terrorizing people in high sec with your views of the world or games? Some people love star trek over star wars, is there not enough space in eve for everyone? > > And seriously why doesn’t Safety just go to low and nul sec? Whats the main issue here? It’s not the excitement of watching people with a green button blow up. That seems very boring. Even if I despise Aiko as an individual and her choice of gameplay, You do realize that this is a sandbox game and that HS gankers are part of the ecosystem, right ? Where each chooses what they want to do in this universe, and it’s what makes it unique. You can choose to respond creatively to adversity, or not, and it’s entirely your choice in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Sucateira](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sucateira/32/307095_2.png) [@Sucateira](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sucateira)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/179 "2022-02-23T11:48:56Z")
I have lost a 4b+ Rattle in Uedama once. [Rattlesnake | Sucateira | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/82279291/) The ganker was multiboxing 20+ accounts or whatever… I don’t remember exactly. Many people insisted he is an autist and have super human skills so he can control 20 accounts at the same time etc etc. Ofc this is all BS… considering I work with kids with autism for more than 12 years now and I never met one with super human reflexes… anyway. That is not the point. It was my fault. I stoped playing for some years and than came back and joined a Corp in gallente space and all my stuff was in Amarr. After 30 trips bringing my stuff. I was overdosed by all this travelling and played with my luck for my last trips. Ganking sucks a bit but there are ways to avoid it. Most of the times anyway. Don’t play with luck, play safe. Be smart. Don’t mission in SOE systems or any systems below 0,7 anyway (if even makes any diference) don’t fly blingy ships everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Cherti\_Stardust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherti_stardust/32/312100_2.png) [@Cherti\_Stardust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherti_Stardust)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/180 "2022-02-23T11:58:31Z")
you claim to know me, but its nice to see you found something else to attack. Good for you, try to stay on topic then. ---
**Author:** ![Cherti\_Stardust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherti_stardust/32/312100_2.png) [@Cherti\_Stardust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherti_Stardust)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/181 "2022-02-23T12:01:19Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > > [@Cherti\_Stardust](#): > > > > So you want your gameplay style to be supreme content? Why don’t you just go to low and nul? Were you kicked out of these zones? You only have high sec left to play in because your useless at real pvp. > > > > Does attacking people with a green button make you feel powerful. Your boredom is satisfied by people who cannot attack back. Daisy cutting is excitement to you? Have you tried therapy for that issue instead of terrorizing people in high sec with your views of the world or games? Some people love star trek over star wars, is there not enough space in eve for everyone? > > > > And seriously why doesn’t Safety just go to low and nul sec? Whats the main issue here? It’s not the excitement of watching people with a green button blow up. That seems very boring. > > Even if I despise Aiko as an individual and her choice of gameplay, > > You do realize that this is a sandbox game and that HS gankers are part of the ecosystem, right ? > > Where each chooses what they want to do in this universe, and it’s what makes it unique. > > You can choose to respond creatively to adversity, or not, and it’s entirely your choice in the end. Did you read my posts? You seem to be going on “feel” and not fact. I said 1v1 ganking… go for it, knock yourself out, it is part of the game. But thats not whats happening. its 25x1v1 meaning 1 person is multiboxing 25-100 ships and overloading people, the server, the game to gank. Please stay on topic. ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807/182 "2022-02-23T12:16:35Z")
That’s not @Bluelysian, it’s someone else. I know her and how she types and this isn’t her. I realize that this might be someone’s alt but it’s not Bluelysian’s. Edit: it’s also not how she thinks or acts, this person doesn’t have anything likeBluelysian’s Intelligence, doesn’t have anything close to the same inflection, and while you may not like Bluelysian (I do, I consider her a good friend), she can actually argue a point. This person cannot and lacks the ability to use reason. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/directly-addess-aiko-danuja-comments-about-ganking/350807.md?page=10)