# Disable market in high sec for criminals **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [December 3, 2023, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739 "2023-12-03T11:32:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dreg\_Apc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dreg_apc/32/381263_2.png) [@Dreg\_Apc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dreg_Apc)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/1 "2023-12-03T11:32:21Z")
What do you think would happen if characters with a security status less than -1 would not be able to use the markets in high sec? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/2 "2023-12-03T12:07:05Z")
Nothing, they would just take the stuff they need from their personal hangar and fill the personal hangar with contracts from their alts. ---
**Author:** ![Dreg\_Apc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dreg_apc/32/381263_2.png) [@Dreg\_Apc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dreg_Apc)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/3 "2023-12-03T12:10:09Z")
Great, maybe they will be less inclined to commit crimes then. ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/4 "2023-12-03T12:15:24Z")
> [@Dreg\_Apc](#): > > What do you think would happen if characters with a security status less than -1 would not be able to use the markets in high sec? They would $£! a brick. They would leave the game like petulant children and CCP would be heartbroken. That’s why it’s never gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Dreg\_Apc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dreg_apc/32/381263_2.png) [@Dreg\_Apc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dreg_Apc)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/5 "2023-12-03T12:15:54Z")
Or trade and industry will increase in low and null or maybe bit of both ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/6 "2023-12-03T12:17:02Z")
How can we stop you spamming the forums with these horrible threads? ---
**Author:** ![Dreg\_Apc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dreg_apc/32/381263_2.png) [@Dreg\_Apc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dreg_Apc)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/7 "2023-12-03T12:25:17Z")
Wether they are horrible and spam is up for the debate. But if that is the case i can think of a few ways to stop it. Ignore me, ban me, or implement a slow mode. None of which seem like good solutions. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/8 "2023-12-03T12:25:55Z")
Muted works. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/9 "2023-12-03T14:00:56Z")
another thread against gankers ? oO wtf … why cant you just play this game and dont come to forum to complain about gankers and how they touched you … > [@Dreg\_Apc](#): > > Wether they are horrible and spam is up for the debate yes they are horrible ! an no, you dont want to debate ! ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/10 "2023-12-04T07:25:41Z")
> [@Dreg\_Apc](#): > > Great, maybe they will be less inclined to commit crimes then. I don’t think so. Also I don’t think this would be an interesting result. ---
**Author:** ![Dreg\_Apc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dreg_apc/32/381263_2.png) [@Dreg\_Apc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dreg_Apc)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/11 "2023-12-04T08:22:37Z")
Crime is not PVP If the feature gets introduced there should probably be a one time option to reset a characters security status * * * More long term should security status slowly go to 0 if you stop committing crimes? Should there be an option for criminals to serve actual time and regain sec status in some way? Or maybe just have everything stay the way they are ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/12 "2023-12-04T10:53:00Z")
> [@Dreg\_Apc](#): > > Crime is not PVP It’s asymmetric, and therefore not PVP in the gaming sense, still it’s an activity that involves some kind of confrontation against other players so it is, by definition, PVP. > [@Dreg\_Apc](#): > > If the feature gets introduced there should probably be a one time option to … remove that feature. Indeed. > [@Dreg\_Apc](#): > > More long term should security status slowly go to 0 if you stop committing crimes? Please. Stop writing before you think : think first, then write. ---
**Author:** ![Dreg\_Apc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dreg_apc/32/381263_2.png) [@Dreg\_Apc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dreg_Apc)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/13 "2023-12-04T10:54:53Z")
Thanks for your comment ---
**Author:** ![system1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system1)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/disable-market-in-high-sec-for-criminals/430739/14 "2024-03-03T10:54:54Z")
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