# Discord as an obligation

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 27, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163 "2020-11-27T01:43:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/21 "2020-11-27T04:29:24Z")

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I guess I can be the next loudest quiet person. 😄

Glad to know there’ll be an opportunity to join a fleet in a corporation.

Thank you all for writing down possibilities. o7

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**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/22 "2020-11-27T05:13:30Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> So I’ll never be able to join a fleet for battle ? Bummer.

> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> I was hoping to find a corporation that would let me participate in fleet combat by only listening and making ly contributions based on the orders I hear. That’d be fine.

Have you actually asked? In all honestly in fleets usually the FC actually wants line members to be quiet. I’d say in 90% of fleet comms I’ve been in I never actually have to “say” anything, just listen and respond to orders.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/23 "2020-11-27T05:17:14Z")

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> [@Derath\_Ellecon](#):
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> Have you actually asked?

I actually read some of the recruitment requirements posted by some corporations in-game.

> [@Derath\_Ellecon](#):
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> usually the FC actually wants line members to be quiet. I’d say in 90% of fleet comms I’ve been in I never actually have to “say” anything, just listen and respond to orders

Sounds good! If I can just listen to FC and be of use that’ll be great.  
Thanks for the info.

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**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/24 "2020-11-27T05:21:00Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> I actually read some of the recruitment requirements posted by some corporations in-game.

I mean in terms of talking vs listening of course. Yes Discord may be a requirement, because fleet comms are ESSENTIAL in fights. However fleet comms are very often one sided.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/25 "2020-11-27T05:22:42Z")

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> [@Derath\_Ellecon](#):
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> However fleet comms are very often one sided.

They better not be one-sided on my part or we’ll lose the fight before the enemy fleet even jumps into system 😂

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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/26 "2020-11-27T06:23:54Z")

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Dude you don’t need to be able to talk in order to join a corp or participate in fleets. Most groups want you on discord and/or other voice comm programs so that you so that they can easily communicate to you things like corp announcements or FC commands during fleets. Of course, difficulty speaking will make you ill suited for roles that require the ability to quickly communicate information and/or instructions, but fleets are not comprised entirely of such roles, and you can still have fun and make meaningful contributions. Moreover, most players will be understanding.

So, don’t hesitate to join any groups that require voice comms. Just be up front when you apply. Most groups wont care, and if you do run into any that do, you can just try the next one.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/27 "2020-11-27T06:28:03Z")

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> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#):
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> So, don’t hesitate to join any groups that require voice comms. Just be up front when you apply. Most groups wont care, and if you do run into any that do, you can just try the next one

Thanks for clearing a few things out. I guess I’ll have to make my disability known in the application window.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/28 "2020-11-27T07:10:11Z")

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Eve’s former voice system was garbage. They encourage these 3rd party apps to be used over stuff being added to the game.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/29 "2020-11-27T07:11:54Z")

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It frees up their time to work on more important things.

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**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/30 "2020-11-27T07:13:35Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> I’ll do what you suggest and hopefully a corporation will accept me in their fleet if all I need to do is listen and execute.

in general that’s most people in most fleets, being able to listen and execute is perfectly fine.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/31 "2020-11-27T07:16:59Z")

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Nice! Now all I have to do is wait 'til I hit the Omega paywall in skills and shop for a corporation.

I’m glad I may be able to fleet for battle. It’s still a long way off but I like to be ready in advance.

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**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/32 "2020-11-27T07:21:29Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> So I’ll never be able to join a fleet for battle ? Bummer.  
> I’ll do what you suggest and hopefully a corporation will accept me in their fleet if all I need to do is listen and execute.  
> Thanks for your help.

Most corps require that you are able to _listen_ on Comms via Discord - speaking is really only needed for FCs, scouts, etc. If your PvP interest is as a line member, you are probably fine without a mic. If you want to scout, or FC, you’ll need to spend a lot of time building a fleet doctrine and command/communication strategy - that’ll be a more challenging sell in some situations, but really depends on the PvP expectations for the corp.

Your best bet is to ask the corp you are interested in, explaining that speaking isn’t really an option for you - any decent corp will be able to find a way to make it work for you to be a part of things.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/33 "2020-11-27T07:21:55Z")

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All corporations will use some kind of voice chat. Don’t let that discourage you to join them and join their fleets!

In fleets, the fleet commander (FC) talks, you listen.

It’s rarely necessary for fleet members to also talk, and typing is a good alternative, especially when you have made your limitation known. I do have a microphone and no issue with talking, yet I often type just because I find that more comfortable.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/34 "2020-11-27T07:23:53Z")

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Thanks, that was a good suggestion posted above. I shall do so.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/35 "2020-11-27T07:24:50Z")

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It’s nice to know. And there I thought for a sec I’d never be able to fleet… I’m relieved.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/36 "2020-11-27T07:25:18Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> So I’ll never be able to join a fleet for battle ?

Nah. As long as you can listen usually you’re good.  
No one cared about me refusing to do voice, as long as I was listening.

And, as stupid as it may sound, if you’re scout watching dscan for enemies,  
then a simple grunt into the microphone can be enough to raise peoples attention.

When everyone knows the sound means danger that’s already helpful.

In the right circumstances you can even FC, but of course that needs some training.

Like, I’ve had no problems coordinating a small three man gank fleet that way …  
… and requiring some autonomy and common sense from my fleet members is totally fair.

Just need to know when to type and what to type.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/37 "2020-11-27T07:27:23Z")

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Thanks Soltice.  
I don’t think I ever want to be FC but if I can be a silent grunt then it’ll be perfect for me.

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**Author:** ![Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inxentas_ultramar/32/385922_2.png) [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inxentas_Ultramar)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/38 "2020-11-27T07:28:02Z")

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I’m no longer the CEO of anything but I don’t see a reason to deny somone that can HEAR to join a fleet. In our group Discord is used for messaging and announcements.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/39 "2020-11-27T07:28:50Z")

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It really all depends on your role and how well you’re executing it, disability or not.  
Hell, there’s literally blind people who play by having a program read the overview off of the screen at high speeds.

That’s just ■■■■■■■ amazing!

I really doubt the lack of a tongue is, in comparison, an actual problem.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discord-as-an-obligation/282163/40 "2020-11-27T07:30:50Z")

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In comparison, no.  
I love to paint. I’d be depressed if I got blind and couldn’t paint anymore.  
And you’re right, nowadays technology is amazingly helpful for people with handicaps.

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