# Discussion about "Into the Abyss" update **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 15, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843 "2018-04-15T12:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Predator\_Ace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predator_ace/32/25335_2.png) [@Predator\_Ace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predator_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/1 "2018-04-15T12:09:59Z")
Hello ! So, firstly, Happy 15 year Celebration, dear CCP. Now, lets get closely about “Into the Abyss” update. As we had seen in EVE Fanfest, there will be new “wormholes”, with new Triglavian faction and new Triglavian ships and modules there. Questions is: _**Those new ships and modules(Triglavian ones) will be available for Alpha clones to use ?**_ What will be skill requirements for this ships and modules ? From which ways players will be able to get BPC for those ships and modules ? (if it will be the same way as with Marshal- than I think its damn bad, to pay 15-20 bill for 1 battleship (actually it’s a price of a NYX for example), so its just not correct amount of isks for such ship. I think Alphas should be able to use those ships, cuz from preview they looks like just another “pirate” ship, to which alphas have access now, but there is no any information about that anywhere. And what will be accessibility to this “sites” in general for alpha clones ? ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/2 "2018-04-15T12:18:05Z")
> [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > Questions is: Those new ships and modules(Triglavian ones) will be available for Alpha clones to use ? Its an interesting question, they didn’t announce any expansion to the alpha skillset and the trig ships require new skills so my gut instinct is no, they will not be alpha ships, although we shall see once they arrive on SISI 😛 > [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > What will be skill requirements for this ships and modules ? New precursor skills for the hulls and the weapon system > [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > From which ways players will be able to get BPC for those ships and modules ? From abyssal deadspace pockets > [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > (if it will be the same way as with Marshal- than I think its damn bad, to pay 15-20 bill for 1 battleship (actually it’s a price of a NYX for example), so its just not correct amount of isks for such ship. Well the hull itself costs 2bil to make in regards to the marshal, and the price reflects the 500 levels of PD you have to grind though and the hull has settled at around the 12bil mark which seems about fair > [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > I think Alphas should be able to use those ships, cuz from preview they looks like just another “pirate” ship, to which alphas have access now, but there is no any information about that anywhere. > > And what will be accessibility to this “sites” in general for alpha clones ? Well considering T3 hulls come from existing WH space those arne’t alpha enabled either so i would expect the trig ships to follow that logic, the abyssal deadspace pockets can be accessed by alphas as it just requires a consumable item and a cruiser ---
**Author:** ![Predator\_Ace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predator_ace/32/25335_2.png) [@Predator\_Ace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predator_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/3 "2018-04-15T12:18:47Z")
Also, one more quastion, what will happend when i log off, or lose internet connection in time when i will be inside those Abyss wormholes ? ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/4 "2018-04-15T12:25:53Z")
> [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > Also, one more quastion, what will happend when i log off, or lose internet connection in time when i will be inside those Abyss wormholes ? As you’ll be flagged as in combat your ship will just sit in the pocket until the pocket collapses and your ship is evicted back in to k-space unless you log back in at which point you can continue the site as normal until you either leave or get evicted when it collapses 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Predator\_Ace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predator_ace/32/25335_2.png) [@Predator\_Ace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predator_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/5 "2018-04-15T12:31:46Z")
Ok everything seems clear, but would be greate if we will get any information about that from CCP. really interesting about that, but as an Alpha clone im not sure how it will be affected to me. Thanks for answers. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/6 "2018-04-15T12:35:05Z")
CCP just released the first information on Thursday with more details on Friday. Let them recover from Fanfest first and I’m sure there will be more information released. Though it seems that they won’t release all information about them, instead we will have to play and figure things out, which is going to be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/7 "2018-04-15T12:38:51Z")
> [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > Ok everything seems clear, but would be greate if we will get any information about that from CCP. really interesting about that, but as an Alpha clone im not sure how it will be affected to me. Thanks for answers. > 👍 Well like i said, its unlikely that these ships are aimed at alpha players, the same as T3 ships so i wouldn’t hold out being able to fly them ---
**Author:** ![Akrasjel\_Lanate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akrasjel_lanate/32/389758_2.png) [@Akrasjel\_Lanate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akrasjel_Lanate)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/8 "2018-04-15T12:43:26Z")
> [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > Questions is: Those new ships and modules(Triglavian ones) will be available for Alpha clones to use ? At this point the anvser is no. Threre will be new skills for those ships needed to pilot them or use those new weapons. About ISK price… there is no such thing as a “correct amount of isks for such ship”. It will be rarer than the Navy ships. We should know more within a month. ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/9 "2018-04-15T15:04:19Z")
> [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > Questions is: Those new ships and modules(Triglavian ones) will be available for Alpha clones to use ? I have a related question. The SoCT ships that players active for 30 days before date X will get… will alphas get those too, or only omegas? Does anyone know? ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/10 "2018-04-15T15:38:02Z")
> [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](#): > > > [@Predator\_Ace](#): > > > > Questions is: Those new ships and modules(Triglavian ones) will be available for Alpha clones to use ? > > I have a related question. The SoCT ships that players active for 30 days before date X will get… will alphas get those too, or only omegas? Does anyone know? Alphas get the SOCT shuttle and skin, omegas get the other ships aswell as the BS ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/11 "2018-04-15T16:51:06Z")
I assume noobs will be able to fly the BS? ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/12 "2018-04-15T18:40:42Z")
> [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](#): > > I assume noobs will be able to fly the BS? If you mean the SOCT BS then yes it has 1 skill requirement of spaceship command level 1 ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/13 "2018-04-15T20:28:32Z")
We don’t yet know if CCP will include precursor skills into alpha set,I believe they might since there’s different tiers of abysal sites so the first tier(s) hopefully can be done by alphas leaving the higher tiers as a delicious cake taunting you to subscribe 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Alastair\_Altair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alastair_altair/32/66746_2.png) [@Alastair\_Altair](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alastair_Altair)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/14 "2018-04-16T01:29:35Z")
I think it’s interesting to point out that the new expansion seems to follow similar modes from other games. Specifically Diablo 3 Rifts. I don’t know if Blizzard got the idea for those from somewhere else or came up with them on their own, but other games have borrowed from it, seemingly Eve as well. As a gaming mechanic having a multi-tiered difficulty, short playtime experience, wherein you can test new ideas for the game, is pretty fantastic. Listening to the keynote, it really got me excited for what we don’t know that is coming, but that the abyss will help bring. Allowing this for all levels of play is obviously only a healthy thing for the game, but the ideas and creative that will be gleaned from player experiences in the coming months will only help them create new and better experiences for both old and young tenured players. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/15 "2018-04-16T01:55:09Z")
OP, I see an Omega in your future… ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/16 "2018-04-16T02:20:11Z")
Is it known whether the rewards will depend on the space you are in (null, low, high, worm), or will everyone have access to the same goodies? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/17 "2018-04-16T02:58:47Z")
I can almost guarantee that high-sec will not have access to the riskiest Abyssal pockets. Chances are null and wormhole space will have exclusive access to those with the ones in the middle falling to low-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Klatus\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/klatus_doshu/32/86893_2.png) [@Klatus\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Klatus_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/18 "2018-04-18T06:18:29Z")
What is know about the new weapon system in regards to damage type (uniform?) and if it get‘s the bonus from weapon upgrade modules (heat sinks, magnetic field stab and gyro stab…bcu not since it is a turret?) if they get the Bonus wouldn‘t be nice, if it get a bonus to damage types depending what upgrade module you use (e.g. Heat sink EM/Therm damage bonus, Mag stab Therm/Kin etc.) so that you can tweak the damage type. The overall dps should stay the same. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/19 "2018-04-18T09:19:16Z")
Therm/Exp, tracking formula, ammunition, optimal but zero falloff, increase in damage with every cycle up to a max, probably new modules. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/20 "2018-04-18T13:35:56Z")
Standard and T2 ammunition, but not sure if the weapons themselves are T1, Faction or T2. Suspected high cap usage. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843.md?page=2)