# Discussion about "Into the Abyss" update **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 15, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843 "2018-04-15T12:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/824 "2018-05-16T14:35:31Z")
We already have. Many times. Your refusal to read our replies is not our responsibility. ---
**Author:** ![Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dantelion_shinoni/32/383315_2.png) [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dantelion_Shinoni)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/825 "2018-05-16T14:35:41Z")
> [@Loreline\_Farcloud](#): > > Ngl I’m going to to side with your gf on this one. That was actually a nice one there. edit: OMEGALUL ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/826 "2018-05-16T14:36:25Z")
Someone explain/answer: **Whats wrong with each pocket dropping only one filament to the next level pocket?** Run or sell it. If you want more of those filaments, buy them from others. Whats the problem? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/827 "2018-05-16T14:37:05Z")
so, did someone make more tests on sisi ? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/828 "2018-05-16T14:40:06Z")
SiSi is just a test bed. Doesnt mean it will go live as there. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/829 "2018-05-16T14:40:54Z")
Yeah so far pirate/navy cruises don’t stand up to the dps of the higher tiers (4&5) even with Implants and boosters. So those will be the realm of HACs for now. I have only had an acceptable success rate (8/10) with tier 4 filaments. 5’s are just too hard. I am conscious of the new additions dropping daily on SISI like drone controlling Triglavians, adjustments to Leshak damage and the forthcoming sleepers and Battlecruiser sized rogue drones, however I think tier 4 will be the upper limit of the majority of players. And even then only with concentration, optimal approach to each pocket as it comes and liberal use of boosters. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/830 "2018-05-16T14:43:05Z")
> [@Loreline\_Farcloud](#): > > Yeah so far pirate/navy cruises don’t stand up to the dps of the higher tiers (4&5) even with Implants and boosters. > > So those will be the realm of HACs for now. I have only had an acceptable success rate (8/10) with tier 4 filaments. 5’s are just too hard. Or maybe you just have bad SP, fits and skill. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/831 "2018-05-16T14:43:11Z")
Lol reply of the day goes to @Anderson_Geten ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/832 "2018-05-16T14:44:46Z")
> [@Loreline\_Farcloud](#): > > Lol reply of the day goes to @Anderson_Geten If you are going to alt-post out of anger, you might want to make it less obvious in future. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/833 "2018-05-16T14:46:34Z")
This is the second time you have tried to insinuate that I am doing such. Again I will respond with the truth. I have one singular account. The fact that other people agree with me is incidental. I am in no way angry. Furthermore the fact that you are responding to personal attacks and veiled insults only undermines your position. Have a pleasant day. I am done trying to discuss anything with you. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/834 "2018-05-16T14:48:40Z")
> [@Loreline\_Farcloud](#): > > Furthermore the fact that you are responding to personal attacks and veiled insults only undermines your position. So I should bend over and take personal attacks and veiled insults up my butt? No thanks. Not going to happen, mi’ladies. Where I come from, we address personal attacks and veiled insults directly, as what they are. > [@Loreline\_Farcloud](#): > > Have a pleasant day. I am done trying to discuss anything with you. Both of “you” refused to answer my direct question: **Whats wrong with each pocket dropping only one filament to the next level pocket?** ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/835 "2018-05-16T14:56:02Z")
> [@Loreline\_Farcloud](#): > > adjustments to Leshak damage do you mean, the triglavian rat ? I did some F1 and only the triglavian frigate could break my cheap fit., if I stayed in the area that increase the tracking and at the same range (just going out of range was enough to decrease it to lower level) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/836 "2018-05-16T14:56:58Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > do you mean, the triglavian rat ? So cute! You are talking to your alt :3 **Whats wrong with each pocket dropping only one filament to the next level pocket?** ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/837 "2018-05-16T14:59:32Z")
please report salvos for those insults. I flagged his 20 last posts as inappropriate, he is just trolling us since the beginning. @Salvos_Rhoska get some hot water and get yourself a nice cup of STFU. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/838 "2018-05-16T15:02:46Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > please report salvos for those insults. What insults? And where? * * * **Whats wrong with each pocket dropping only one filament to the next level pocket?** * * * > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I did some F1 and only the triglavian frigate could break my cheap fit., if I stayed in the area that increase the tracking and at the same range (just going out of range was enough to decrease it to lower level) Mi’Lady, Trig ships use Trig weapons. The longer you are affected, the greater the dps. Maybe you missed the memo about what Trig ships and weapons are all about? Maybe you where too busy insulting/ignoring me, and posting on an alt, to understand this basic function of Trig ships and their weapons? ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/839 "2018-05-16T15:06:00Z")
Yes. They’ve slowed the spool up. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/840 "2018-05-16T15:12:07Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I flagged his 20 last posts as inappropriate Thats a violation of the flag system. Nothing in my last 20 posts is inappropriate, let alone all 20 of them. ---
**Author:** ![Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dantelion_shinoni/32/383315_2.png) [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dantelion_Shinoni)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/841 "2018-05-16T15:13:12Z")
I used to be able to run the L3 relatively easily, as long as I didn’t end up with cases like the Automata spawning right next to my face while I’m in a droneship. But those Triglavian rats, everytime I have them it kills the run. By the way, are you guys taking into account the cases where the pocket is actively out to get you? I think this should be taken into account in the argument about the distribution of filaments. ---
**Author:** ![Loreline\_Farcloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loreline_farcloud/32/69487_2.png) [@Loreline\_Farcloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loreline_Farcloud)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/842 "2018-05-16T15:15:35Z")
> [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](#): > > are you guys taking into account the cases where the pocket is actively out to get you by this do you mean a particularly difficult set of spawns in each of the three pockets? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843/843 "2018-05-16T15:18:03Z")
You guys may not have yet figured out the triggers in the pockets, nor which groups to aggress in what order. SiSi is for testing. Its not what will go live, de facto. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843.md?page=39) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-about-into-the-abyss-update/69843.md?page=41)