# \[Discussion\] Community Safety in EVE Online **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Created:** [July 21, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833 "2022-07-21T15:00:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/386 "2022-07-22T18:57:15Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > Even peoples profiles. i was contacted by the moderation and they said my ugly face is problematic and make people fell unsafe ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/387 "2022-07-22T18:57:44Z")
O damn, I was only banned for a few hours, your experience sounds worse. To be fair If I saw your face in local I would feel unsafe too. I have a feeling someone is going to force me to explain this joke -\_- ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/388 "2022-07-22T20:13:15Z")
Nobody knows becides a select few whom the princess of new eden is/was so it don’t matter but let’s get one thing straight there was nothing kinky about being a part of that form of RP. I was referring that question about as openly as I wanted to and it is a real fact that some pilots are being asked to send isk that is not a part of some mutual agreement. There is a huge difference when both participants understand the ground rules before they engage into such form of RP. My question however above questioned the entirety of term extortion. I think that question does fall under this new Community Safety Announcement and I would appreciate if it is answered respectfully. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/389 "2022-07-22T20:16:43Z")
woaaahhhh calm down bro i will not talk about your mutual agreement with the princess anymore ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/390 "2022-07-22T20:21:48Z")
Something just clicked when you said that and I seem to remember a very old eve story in the days of bob, now I’m curious. Time to re-listen to all the empires of eve. Edit: oof they aren’t free to listen to anymore, good for him thou they where really well made. ---
**Author:** ![Ully\_Loom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ully_loom/32/501057_2.png) [@Ully\_Loom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ully_Loom)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/391 "2022-07-22T20:37:26Z")
IMPORTANT @CCP_Swift , In order to complete my previous remark to which I refer you for the record: > [@\[Discussion\] Community Safety in EVE Online](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/62): > > Hello @CCP_Swift , The fight against cyberbullying is a challenge. Committing to it, as announced today by CCP, is not only a guarantee of seriousness on the part of your company, it is also proof of courage. Because to achieve your goals, you will have to review a number of important things: 1- review the way you could register all EvE Online users, even if it means having to ask current customers to please update their personal information accordingly; it is both additional implementation w… I advise you to read this if you haven’t already done so on the CCP side, since it concerns a textbook case, namely that of EvE Online; this study dates from 2013: [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/256927183\_Evaluating\_Consent\_and\_Legitimacy\_Amongst\_Shifting\_Community\_Norms\_an\_EVE\_Online\_Case\_Study](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/256927183_Evaluating_Consent_and_Legitimacy_Amongst_Shifting_Community_Norms_an_EVE_Online_Case_Study) Other information for the community this time, read this: [https://gamingsym.in/eve-online-safeguarding-the-community-from-toxic-behavior-on-eve-online/](https://gamingsym.in/eve-online-safeguarding-the-community-from-toxic-behavior-on-eve-online/) Information also included here in French: > **[Préserver la communauté des comportements toxiques sur EVE Online](https://eve.jeuxonline.info/actualite/61511/preserver-communaute-comportements-toxiques-eve-online)** > > Suite à des événements récents, le studio CCP Games revient sur les règles régissant l'univers de son MMORPG sandbox EVE Online pour préserver les joueurs. So. Try To Fly Safe Again. Or Not. Ully Loom ps: my feeling on reading all this is that it is above all and above all a problem of social anthropology, but the lines of thought concerning the fight against cyberbullying have already been set out in my previous post, are the good ones… good luck… ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/392 "2022-07-22T20:42:53Z")
to be fair its my fault i use to think about her highness the princess and mr frostpacker as friends and because of that i made a spicy remark but understand that maybe it was a uncalled advance of my part to mess with their domestic issues ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/393 "2022-07-22T20:56:14Z")
Who knows they could have been absolute legends in eve in 2003 and we don’t even know it. ---
**Author:** ![Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kitaula_kuusa_jouhinen/32/498716_2.png) [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kitaula_Kuusa_Jouhinen)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/394 "2022-07-22T22:03:36Z")
Exactly. If I had a dollar for every time someone said “that’s gay” or “what a fag” in TS, I wouldn’t have to work again. And as a gay woman, I don’t let that bother me. Because most of us grew up in the 80s-90s (00s for me), and that’s how people talked. Sure it wasn’t touchy-feely warm and snuggly ■■■■, but it didn’t get to you because _you knew they weren’t talking about you_. And if they WERE talking about you, ■■■■ those guys, ditch em and find another friend group. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/395 "2022-07-22T22:33:58Z")
> ‘qui custodiet ipsos custodes’ The hardest thing will be deciding who decides what is ok, what is harassment. > ‘I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description, and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But _I know it when I see it_’ -P Stewart Good bloody luck identifying all the slang and language of dozens of countries and knowing what is a normal usage and when it is abusive. Do we take the word of the victim at face value? Lordy that would open a can of worms. "It is Ma’am!!!’ -internet meme Some people would want the attention and claim anything was insulting, others might try to use this as a tool against in game enemies. Does it need doing? Yes. Can it be done perfectly? No. We are going to have some growing pains with this in a big way. Is it worth it? I think yes because it may draw a line . . . > And the sign said > "Long-haired freaky people > Need not apply If we welcome in the abusive folks, give them shelter and tell the victims to ‘just block’ then . . . well that HAS happened and our reputation is less than shiny in that regard. If you get a rep in the gaming community do you want it to be one of harbouring abusers or making a stand and trying to keep the area open for everyone? CCP doxxed me and a few other people long ago . . . it was required to run in the CSM. I have not made a lot of enemies in the game so I have not been abused the way some of the Council have but I am out there, in the open. I do have a connection to the game and a lot of players, I just am fortunate that it is a friendly one (for the most part) m ---
**Author:** ![Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortigern_vitalis/32/455600_2.png) [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortigern_Vitalis)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/396 "2022-07-22T22:54:58Z")
@CCP_Swift One would have more faith in such declarations if there was any evidence of action actually being taken when it is reported to you. Fourteen months ago I reported the fact that there is a corporation, owning a certain Fortizar in Uedama (so not exactly low profile), that calls itself: **Never Ignorant Gettin’ Goals Accomplished** A poorly disguised set of words whose initial letters spell out a variant of the N word. Wholly unacceptable, deeply offensive, clearly deliberate racist material. As proof that this is not some unfortunate coincidence, the corporation’s Description page offers: _Who’s afraid of the punk police?_ _N_**_s run the streets, no justice no peace_ _F_** the law, rather draw than do time\* _Don’t f_\*\* with mine, cross the line, my two nines\* _go baya baya when I shoot 'em_ _Korean mothaf_ **ers was crooked, so n** _s had to burn and loot 'em Now the streets ain’t safe at night My N__s! Straight take his life So don’t sleep when my Jeep creep up, how we hit 'em Empty the clip, then dip cuz we did 'em Lickin’ of shots for Latasha that’s proper Love for my n__s but a glock for the coppers So what the f_\* you wanna do now\* _I packed a 9 last year, in ‘99 I’m packin’ 2 now_ _And even if they pull their triggers_ _They can shoot one man, but nothings gonna stop the plan of true n_\*\*_s_ _N__**s! (Yeah n**__s, you can’t f_\*\* with us)\* _N__**s! (Cuz bein’ a n**_ means you love n_**s) N**_s!\* _My dimes make the fiends go to sleep, so they call 'em bedrocks_ _N_**_s is like photographers, all they take is head shots_ _Your last words’ll be, “damn what’s all these red dots?”_ _N_**_s nowawadays, they worry me, my bars is therapy_ _As long as you usin’ them thoroughly, muah til the day that they bury me_ _My n_**_s is stronger and tighter now than they probably will ever be_ _And I’m a product of the '70’s_ _The hood got n_**_s on punishment, that’s why they never leave_ _If I ain’t eatin’ with you, I’m probably beefin’ with you_ _If no money ain’t involved ain’t no need for me speakin’ with you_ _I know you got a gun but i’m hopin’ you keep it with you_ _Cuz unfortunately, i’m one of them rappers that keep a pistol and_ _You know what the llama do, Shady/Aftermath, Ruff Ryders, D-Block, and of course Amaru_ _Lotta people honor you, probably cuz of the way you used to bring the drama to whoever you wanted to, you a leader when you can get a leader to follow you_ _But anyway, life goes on, so i’ll see you when I art in heaven like our fathers do_ _N__**s! (Yeah n**__s, you can’t f_\*\* with us)\* _N__**s! (Yeah n**__s, cuz bein’ a n_\*\* means you love n_**s) N**_s!\* _N__**s! (N**_!, you can’t f\*\*\* with us\* I got an acknowledgement from the GMs that “they would look into this.” Fourteen months later, nothing has been done. How much more clear cut can things be? Oh, and to be clear, in the original all of the Ns have a load of asterisks that the forum edits out, proof that they are intended to be unacceptable epithets. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/397 "2022-07-22T23:08:52Z")
i have a question … what? ---
**Author:** ![Carmanah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carmanah/32/297347_2.png) [@Carmanah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carmanah)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/398 "2022-07-22T23:10:50Z")
> [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](#): > > Oh, and to be clear, in the original all of the Ns have a load of asterisks that the forum edits out, proof that they are intended to be unacceptable epithets. To be fair, the original is a Tupac song. (Not justifying, just saying.) ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/399 "2022-07-22T23:11:20Z")
ohhhh now i got it … disregard my last post ---
**Author:** ![Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortigern_vitalis/32/455600_2.png) [@Vortigern\_Vitalis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortigern_Vitalis)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/400 "2022-07-22T23:13:11Z")
> [@Carmanah](#): > > To be fair, the original is a Tupac song. And that makes it ok? How about the Horst Wessel Lied? If someone wants to listen to the late Mr Tupac, fine. But that is no excuse for its usage in this game. ETA - fair enough, seen your edit saying not justifying. ---
**Author:** ![Carmanah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carmanah/32/297347_2.png) [@Carmanah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carmanah)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/401 "2022-07-22T23:13:59Z")
I didn’t say it was acceptable, I said that’s where it was from, and not that corporations original content. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/402 "2022-07-22T23:21:12Z")
i agree that can be offensive but how to differentiate it from my bio for example that have a motorhead song with the Ra and the Wh words included its called orgasmatron , one of my favorites because its performed by sepultura also … 2 great bands its a song about how war and greed are bad etc knowing the motivation is so important edit: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIonRQFpKN4) i saying this because i got "schooled " by some folks on how im a terrible personn because of that ---
**Author:** ![M0M](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/m0m/32/329007_2.png) [@M0M](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/M0M)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/406 "2022-07-23T00:33:39Z")
Just a general piece of advice that I was handed when I was but a wee child and allowed to use the internet for the first time; don’t reveal anything about yourself online ever. These are strangers. Never relax. If you want to go full hardmode get off social media entirely (discord, facebook, twitter, etc) or only use it with a screen-name. They can’t dox you if there’s nothing to dox. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/407 "2022-07-23T00:37:42Z")
LMAO, let me direct you to google up the original Archeage and its player court and what a farce it was. ---
**Author:** ![Koinigas\_Wara\_Heleneto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koinigas_wara_heleneto/32/327404_2.png) [@Koinigas\_Wara\_Heleneto](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koinigas_Wara_Heleneto)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833/408 "2022-07-23T01:31:45Z")
nothing wrong with this. it is pure poetry. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-community-safety-in-eve-online/370833.md?page=14)