# Discussion Of The Implications Of Niarja's Invasion

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 17, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741 "2020-08-17T05:26:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/183 "2020-08-18T08:05:13Z")

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Well, its logic, if your neighbourhood will turn very dangerous and no police wanting to come to your rescue, you may want to change the neighbourhood or leave the city. Thats all. Thats whats the situation in game for people in high sec.

Ever experienced a road blocked by bullies that take money from small children or beat them?

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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/184 "2020-08-18T08:13:28Z")

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Jita to Amarr is 10 jump in high sec… now with Niarja gone is 48 jump instead in high sec… why this is a good change? I don’t understand but alright I guess I dont go Amarr ever again then…

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**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/185 "2020-08-18T08:18:21Z")

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You can still go to Amarr.

Solving for Trigs is easy by shooting a little of edencom noobs, you just need to get past players.

For many not moaning on the forums we have jump clones and ships in trade hubs. People moving items are the biggest winners here since they charge per jump.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/186 "2020-08-18T08:21:11Z")

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Also, ahead of people writing that high sec should fight, the battle was fought and if it will be lost, then its no way to stay “in that neighbourhood” for some people. Cause the result will be permanently dangerous location. CCP doesnt want anyone contesting fortresses or final liminalities.

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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/187 "2020-08-18T08:21:59Z")

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I dont understand why would any1 on earth think this is a good change… it make 0 sense… I guess some people have no common sense

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/188 "2020-08-18T08:29:54Z")

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> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#):
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> People moving items are the biggest winners here since they charge per jump.

What was 9 jumps is now maybe 45, in that time that person would do a lot more before change.

Whats with the rest of stuff that have to be moved? May be produced on the place, but thats a lot of investment. Maybe moved with more ships, but thats also investment, may be tried to be moved thru dangerous space, thats also bigger investment.

A lot of time and money wasted to be in the point where we had been before.

And behind the stage, Hilmar rubs his hands together vigorously, laughing, like a happy merchant.

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/189 "2020-08-18T08:33:35Z")

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It’s like nobody remembers life before the highway connections were added to the map.

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**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/190 "2020-08-18T08:33:54Z")

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Well then…

Maybe all the people complaining about it needs to go there and put their collective weight behind edencom.

But you know what. They wont because effort.

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**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/191 "2020-08-18T08:36:50Z")

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I have always thought the factions should be broken apart by low sec space. However, I always thought that it should have been done through Faction Warfare spilling into high sec, turning it into low sec. I think it would have made better lore.

These Trig invasions are dumb and I have a really hard time understanding the lore behind it and the randomness of systems invaded. I realize it has something to do with mining the suns, but with so much focus on Trigs, many other parts of the game are being left behind. ☹

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/192 "2020-08-18T08:43:36Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> I haven’t seen a single ganker complain about niarja going to trigs.

We noted quite a few complaining and whining about it, both sides have spies after all.

> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> I assumed they’d be pretty happy for it to turn trig since they’ve been ganking Edencom everywhere else.

That is an assumption, however I can confirm that some are very happy with this event and some are most definitely not. I also noticed that in this fight some Trig aligned players were ganked.

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> “I guess I can’t navigate through that sector anymore!”

It is easy to move though that system if you put your mind to it, no bubbles…

> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#):
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> Jita to Amarr is 10 jump in high sec… now with Niarja gone is 48 jump instead in high sec… why this is a good change? I don’t understand but alright I guess I dont go Amarr ever again then…

The reason is that Amarr will become a proper market in it’s own right.

> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#):
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> I dont understand why would any1 on earth think this is a good change… it make 0 sense… I guess some people have no common sense

I don’t know why anyone will think having one viable market was a good thing. In any case it creates interesting change.

> [@Brun\_Warbear](#):
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> It’s like nobody remembers life before the highway connections were added to the map.

Yep.

AG players were split on our attitudes, there were some that went and defended Niarja and there were others that stood back and let the dice fall. I almost put some alts in on the Trig side, but decided to just let the dice roll in the end.

Getting away from a single market place like Jita is a win for me, which is what the effect of this event is. Let the Amarr market now develop!

Adapt, it is not that hard.

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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/193 "2020-08-18T08:47:31Z")

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**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/194 "2020-08-18T08:47:42Z")

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If Amarr becomes it’s own stand alone market detached from JITA that that would be another plus point for this event.

People will always whine. Gankers, haulers, missioners, casuals, whatever… when it impact their game play. I know I whined when the watch lists was removed. I whine when CCP makes changes without thinking about the impact on other parts of the game.

I then just adapt and continue.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/195 "2020-08-18T08:48:46Z")

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I think it is a major plus point.

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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/196 "2020-08-18T09:00:49Z")

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/197 "2020-08-18T09:09:14Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> Here’s a fun fact.
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> No one but highsec garbage cares.

That’s the problem here…

We are not playing the same game…

But neithertheless…highsec does it better…

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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/198 "2020-08-18T09:13:33Z")

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/199 "2020-08-18T09:14:21Z")

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> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#):
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> But you know what. They wont because effort.

There was a lot of effort put into it tho. Still you can lose if you give 110% from yourself. Maybe its time to move on then.

At the end, its someones decision to think CCP shoud, or should not be rewarded with that person cash or not, for the changes they make to the game, that turn out some way, maybe not preferable for that person. Cant speak for everyone.

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**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/200 "2020-08-18T09:14:34Z")

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/201 "2020-08-18T09:18:35Z")

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I didn’t realize people enjoyed jumping so much.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/202 "2020-08-18T09:20:02Z")

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The fact so many people DIDNT take the longer easier route more often is telling lol

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