# Discussion Of The Implications Of Niarja's Invasion

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 17, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741 "2020-08-17T05:26:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/243 "2020-08-18T12:18:40Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> The main point was that severing arteries make your body die. Game will bleed players.

Let us see some actual facts to back that up and not just a very poor analogy.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/244 "2020-08-18T12:20:30Z")

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> [@Brun\_Warbear](#):
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> Let us see some actual facts

They will emerge.

The CCP plans and whats left of them.

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**Author:** ![Pertti\_Perusheppu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pertti_perusheppu/32/244021_2.png) [@Pertti\_Perusheppu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pertti_Perusheppu)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/245 "2020-08-18T12:24:52Z")

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Oh my, people are not taking this well it seems. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/246 "2020-08-18T12:36:02Z")

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**Author:** ![Poor\_Sap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/poor_sap/32/333206_2.png) [@Poor\_Sap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Poor_Sap)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/247 "2020-08-18T12:53:52Z")

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Oh look at all the industry cry-babies wallowing in pain. Didn’t have the courage or put in the effort to save your primary trade route. Now they smirk-smirk their salty tears on the forum, beggibg for CCP to mend to their wounds. What a bunch of useless cowards!

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/248 "2020-08-18T12:56:20Z")

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I’ve been wondering what null sec empires in the south of the map will be doing now that Jita (and Perimeter - TTT) will be considerably further. What made me even think about this, was something, almost an aside, written in an INN article.

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**Author:** ![Osir1s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/osir1s/32/274531_2.png) [@Osir1s](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Osir1s)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/249 "2020-08-18T12:57:30Z")

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You can also do what the rest of the game does to make things safe: make friends and work together.

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**Author:** ![Poor\_Sap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/poor_sap/32/333206_2.png) [@Poor\_Sap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Poor_Sap)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/250 "2020-08-18T13:05:09Z")

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Try that with industry fat-cats. Probably the most assinine players in New Eden.

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**Author:** ![Blaedin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blaedin/32/435160_2.png) [@Blaedin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blaedin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/251 "2020-08-18T13:16:29Z")

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For those upset, it’s probably in your best interest to turtle your assets in high sec stations, horde isk, and deactivate your accounts until it’s over.

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**Author:** ![Terrorfrodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terrorfrodo/32/367955_2.png) [@Terrorfrodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terrorfrodo)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/252 "2020-08-18T13:21:57Z")

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The oddest part about this is that the most important hisec route in the game, that has existed for over 15 years, could be permanently severed in just one day. So tens of thousands of active players who haven’t logged in on that one day, didn’t even have the opportunity to do anything about it. That’s pretty insane. How is it justifiable that these Triglavian victories are permanent and not reversible? It doesn’t even make any sense.

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**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/253 "2020-08-18T13:29:27Z")

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**Author:** ![Blaedin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blaedin/32/435160_2.png) [@Blaedin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blaedin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/254 "2020-08-18T13:32:34Z")

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Makes about as much sense as a few week warning before complete asset loss due to offline player owned structures…

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/255 "2020-08-18T13:33:21Z")

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Oh come off it, you know CCP has a game plan for the invasions… this is not the END! OMG!!!111!!!

My personal opinion is that the Trigs will end up joining CONCORD, once they have essentially forced the four empires to the negotiating table table - and systems ownership will shuffle around…

Of course, I could (probably) be wrong and it really is the END!!!

[![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/e/8eb6d63d2773abb406b15b2a9e73f755d886cf94.png)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-red-dot-thread/248109) Ban the Dots! The END is Nigh!

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/256 "2020-08-18T13:37:26Z")

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I still think they’ll become the fifth empire, set up in old Jove space. Not sure they’ll join Concord though. And it doesn’t answer what they’ll do with the systems in Final Liminality.

My pet theory for which I have no actual evidence is that these systems will host the connections to Jove/Triglavian space.

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**Author:** ![Poor\_Sap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/poor_sap/32/333206_2.png) [@Poor\_Sap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Poor_Sap)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/257 "2020-08-18T13:39:39Z")

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That’s an interesting theory. I’d like to see it happen, but I think CCP didn’t plan so deep and far.  
I think the Triglavians will always have a shrowd of mystery around them.

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**Author:** ![Terrorfrodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terrorfrodo/32/367955_2.png) [@Terrorfrodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terrorfrodo)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/258 "2020-08-18T13:40:17Z")

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It’s pretty clear that CCP simply decided that hisec needs to be broken up, but knew they couldn’t just do it by decree because there’d be a massive uprising. So they built a mechanic that nominally leaves it up to the players, knowing full well that the end result would be what they wanted.

This was ensured by the mechanic where Edencom victories achieve nothing except preserving the status quo, while Triglavian victories are major and permanent disruptions. It was clear that Trigs would win at least a part of the battles, and every victory for them means a major change, while a victory for Edencom is meaningless.

Personally I don’t even disagree with CCP’s plan to break up hisec. As a wormholer it’s not more than a slight inconvenience anyway. But that a permanent, major change can happen in a single day, with no way to reverse it, doesn’t seem quite right.

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**Author:** ![Poor\_Sap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/poor_sap/32/333206_2.png) [@Poor\_Sap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Poor_Sap)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/259 "2020-08-18T13:42:09Z")

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High-sec is only a small part of New Eden, you know? There are many-many more low-sec and null-sec systems than there are high-sec ones.  
Heck! Even if all of Amarr space would turn null-sec, EVE will still live.

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**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/260 "2020-08-18T13:44:39Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> And if Jita will be invaded, it will be like CCP headshoting the game.

So…the EVE is composed of Jita alone? Now it makes sense why they rebuild Jita Hub station.

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**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/261 "2020-08-18T13:47:08Z")

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Did you get that mail from CCP? I think I’ve lost it…

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**Author:** ![Blaedin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blaedin/32/435160_2.png) [@Blaedin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blaedin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/262 "2020-08-18T13:50:40Z")

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I never got an email from CCP, but I was active at the time so I didn’t get caught.

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