# Discussion Of The Implications Of Niarja's Invasion

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 17, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741 "2020-08-17T05:26:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/304 "2020-08-18T16:58:00Z")

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> [@Blade\_Darth](#):
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> Price of northern modules/ fuel would skyrocket though.

Only faction modules, fuel is universal and there are BPs.

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**Author:** ![Blade\_Darth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blade_darth/32/378598_2.png) [@Blade\_Darth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blade_Darth)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/306 "2020-08-18T17:00:43Z")

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For structures, not for ships.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/307 "2020-08-18T17:02:31Z")

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Who will buy your overpriced stuff in Amarr? Peeps seek low prices and big volumes.

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**Author:** ![Jackson\_Quantrell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jackson_quantrell/32/286518_2.png) [@Jackson\_Quantrell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jackson_Quantrell)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/309 "2020-08-18T17:35:24Z")

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Don’t let the door hit you on the way out…

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**Author:** ![RatKnight1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ratknight1/32/224448_2.png) [@RatKnight1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RatKnight1)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/310 "2020-08-18T17:42:08Z")

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Hek will be halfway between Amarr and Jita now! We might see it raise up as a mid station where things from each side get traded. I am excited to see how people work around this.

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**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/311 "2020-08-18T17:50:12Z")

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When it comes time to nerf the Trigs (and you know it will come), maybe CONCORD will allow Industrial Cynos in high sec.

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**Author:** ![Vyktor\_Abyss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vyktor_abyss/32/378738_2.png) [@Vyktor\_Abyss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vyktor_Abyss)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/312 "2020-08-18T18:00:24Z")

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\*Oursaleart you newb

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/313 "2020-08-18T18:01:41Z")

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> [@Jenera\_Pricey](#):
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> Hello. I would like to know from CCP if Niarja’s state is permanent or how long it will last.

The state is indefinite.

There is currently no way to turn it back if it has reached final liminality.

> [@Jenera\_Pricey](#):
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> Would also like to know CCP’s policy on turning player-valuable systems like Jita, Amarr, Dodixie, route chokepoints, into high risk PVP areas or low/null sec going forward, and if we players can get any type of notice that it will happen (weeks or months in advance).

The notice is the invasion. It’s a good idea to check the agency window to see what’s going on around you.

> [@Jenera\_Pricey](#):
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> My Omega is up in a couple weeks and I want to know if it’s worth it for me to continue playing.

I doubt it since you’ve been here a few weeks and this is the first time you’re asking about the invasion that’s been happening all over hi-sec and lowsec. You weren’t the least bit curious about all the trigs flying round or the systems losing sec status?

A case of, ‘_i don’t care as long as it doesn’t effect me,_’ followed by whining when it does suggests you’re not gonna be missed.

If you wanted certain systems to stay hi-sec, you’re gonna have to get involved.

> [@Aesir\_Valtari](#):
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> have you thought about new players who are just getting to know this game?

Yes. They get a warning about which systems are trigs. How badly do you think new players need a logistic network between jita and amarr?

One of the best things during the epic arc was how it encouraged new players to ask for help. Why can’t this be approached in the same way? Or why can’t the epic arc be moved?

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**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/314 "2020-08-18T18:03:32Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Flying across one lowsec system is hard now apparently!

In reality it will be the most heavily camped system in EvE, complete with insta lock tackle. So yes, it will be hard. Not impossible, but very, very difficult.

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**Author:** ![Tauroqa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tauroqa/32/242613_2.png) [@Tauroqa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tauroqa)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/316 "2020-08-18T18:12:19Z")

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CCP have devised a way of removing an **incredibly** busy route that has existed since 2003 and been massively popular for almost as long and replacing it with a hellcamped double-ended arsehole.

A real galaxy brain moment.

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/317 "2020-08-18T18:28:45Z")

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> [@Tauroqa](#):
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> CCP have devised a way of removing an **incredibly** busy route that has existed since 2003

No it hasn’t.

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/318 "2020-08-18T18:29:21Z")

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Niarja went liminal. Some people talk about shake ups bla bla… You can’t shake things up recklessly in a game people real life skill training and long terms planning and settle down places and call "home " . This game must reset 2011-2012 . Only keep graphic / aesthetic improvements . Then all good to go… Since then everything bring into this game end up with loosing more and more players 2014 was last drop… Of course people will leave but old players will leave… And CCP will care about olds? … They are not source of real life money anymore seriously… Most capable to plex with in game sources

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/320 "2020-08-18T18:30:48Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Seems like a pretty big topic considering theres such a simple solution. Everyone in highsec just moves into Caldari space. Problem solved.

he is back  
 ![Unknown](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/3/635a034c847cb6098d212d211a2d397bf79b1137.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Tauroqa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tauroqa/32/242613_2.png) [@Tauroqa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tauroqa)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/322 "2020-08-18T18:34:13Z")

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w/e i only started playing frequently in 2006 and it was a thing then along with jita, if the amarr-jita route did not exist in 2003 then idgaf tbh

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**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/324 "2020-08-18T18:43:02Z")

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You’ll see a lot of indy ISK lost there today.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/325 "2020-08-18T18:46:13Z")

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Should have defended it better then.

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/327 "2020-08-18T18:58:12Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> There’s not going to be a sudden massive uptick in people who enjoy lowsec.

This is too true. Lowsec is the worst part of Eve.

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**Author:** ![Terranid\_Meester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terranid_meester/32/425207_2.png) [@Terranid\_Meester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terranid_Meester)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/328 "2020-08-18T19:02:22Z")

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Of course it was a significant hub. Either you are ignorant or are just plain dumb.

> **[The Yulai Incident, when Zombies defied Concord](http://aurora-arcology.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-yulai-incident-when-zombies-defied.html)**
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> The Yulai Siege In YC 106, a group of capsuleers united under the Zombie Inc corporation laid a successful siege on one of the Yulai gate...

> It is important to know that in this period, Yulai was the major trade hub of the cluster, the Jita of its days.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/3/53e6a0ac5fe2ec923d0eb224638349dc5204d95e.jpeg "Eve Online Zombies Smartbombing Yulai") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnjK5EVsIfI)

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/329 "2020-08-18T19:14:53Z")

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If more EVE players wouldnt be short eyesighted jerks willing to remove fun for others, maybe we would.

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**Author:** ![Poor\_Sap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/poor_sap/32/333206_2.png) [@Poor\_Sap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Poor_Sap)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/330 "2020-08-18T19:20:56Z")

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The 4 empires being separated is a great idea and should have been implemented from the very beginning.

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