# Discussion Of The Implications Of Niarja's Invasion **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 17, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741 "2020-08-17T05:26:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Chadwikk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chadwikk/32/267555_2.png) [@Chadwikk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chadwikk)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/508 "2020-08-18T22:32:23Z")
First of all its funny you consider the ability to use a JF a “skilled” player. Second of all why are you so concerned about HS noobs making 10M isk an hour with their friends? Honestly explain to me how that is bad for the game? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/509 "2020-08-18T22:32:29Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I’m not sure whether TEST was on the opposing side of if it was just some test pilots. Was there an official stance? I think I’ve seen a CTA of sorts that i thought was from test. > [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > TTT is owned by a NS consortium… Oki koki. > [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > Surely i can do something…it’s called not playing…and not paying… With a bit of luck. > [@Buoytender\_Bob](#): > > Actually a clever strategy to allow CCP to break HS into separate pieces and be able to “blame” player’s actions, while allowing the largest groups to create toll booth systems which allow for a tighter monopoly on trade overall and their multiboxing gate camps of Talos and Catalysts no longer have to be sacrificed to CONCORD. I’d be interesting to see if player owned jump bridges come to hisec. That would play into null blocs hands. > [@Chadwikk](#): > > They are saying they don’t want to make 47 jumps to meet a friend or get to Jita Why does this matter? What if my friend is right on the far west of new eden but I’m on the far east? The amount of jumps it takes to fleet up never mattered before, why does it now? Why can’t one of you go through low sec or maintain jump clones? > [@Chadwikk](#): > > All he said was the way everyone plays the game is valid and should not be destroyed or taken away from them. So wardecs shouldn’t have been nerfed? The game changes. > [@Chadwikk](#): > > I know you are salty with how some people seem to enjoy eve **carebear play is being nerfed** , but if you can’t get over it maybe this isn’t a good game for you. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/511 "2020-08-18T22:34:42Z")
![Untitled21412414](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/d/4dfc3f6f08f40fc114d5eea16af655b343b556c0.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ira\_Infernus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ira_infernus/32/389782_2.png) [@Ira\_Infernus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ira_Infernus)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/512 "2020-08-18T22:36:20Z")
You don’t need to lecture me on the sensitivity of the economy buddy, I literally said “assuming everything stays the same”. The key word here being assuming, which anyone with half a brain cell knows most high sec indy care bears are lazy, so they will just move to jita. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/513 "2020-08-18T22:37:41Z")
> [@Chadwikk](#): > > Honestly explain to me how that is bad for the game? Because EVE is a PvP game built on player interactions. The ability to opt out of interacting with other players and solo farm AFK with zero risk or effort is incompatible with this design concept. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/515 "2020-08-18T22:39:28Z")
> [@Ira\_Infernus](#): > > so they will just move to jita. “If” that happens, then the prices will just fall from oversaturation. ---
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/518 "2020-08-18T22:42:07Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > 🔴 Of course, and you think you will get through Niarja? Have you been in Rancer lately? Rancer is a blue star. What if… 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/519 "2020-08-18T22:43:52Z")
Was that a joke? It sounds like one, but nobody is laughing. ---
**Author:** ![Ira\_Infernus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ira_infernus/32/389782_2.png) [@Ira\_Infernus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ira_Infernus)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/521 "2020-08-18T22:46:03Z")
Why do you keep replying? You’re literally just reposting what I infer. It’s like you’re trying to explain someone else’s joke during a stand up… ---
**Author:** ![Chadwikk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chadwikk/32/267555_2.png) [@Chadwikk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chadwikk)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/523 "2020-08-18T22:46:39Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Because EVE is a PvP game built on player interactions. The ability to opt out of interacting with other players and solo farm AFK with zero risk or effort is incompatible with this design concept. You can have your own arguments but you aren’t entitled to your own facts, Eve Online is a sandbox MMORPG game go read any description by CCP lmao… ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/524 "2020-08-18T22:48:23Z")
> [@Chadwikk](#): > > go read any description by CCP lmao… Erm ‘The essential core concept of eve online is fulltime pvp in a sandbox environment’ - Eve FAQ 2014 ---
**Author:** ![Chadwikk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chadwikk/32/267555_2.png) [@Chadwikk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chadwikk)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/525 "2020-08-18T22:51:03Z")
I never once defended that guys argument that PVP shouldn’t be allowed in HS so I am not sure why you are acting like I said that. Also the key word of that statement is “core” concept not “only” concept. This was also a live FAQ and is contradictory to what it says currently lmao. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/527 "2020-08-18T22:52:04Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > ‘The essential core concept of eve online is fulltime warp in a sandbox environment’ Eve 2020 ---
**Author:** ![Chadwikk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chadwikk/32/267555_2.png) [@Chadwikk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chadwikk)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/528 "2020-08-18T22:53:10Z")
Also the fact that you take PVP to mean ships literally shooting at each other from that post is is a major reach. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/530 "2020-08-18T22:55:10Z")
> [@Ira\_Infernus](#): > > anyone with half a brain cell knows most high sec indy care bears are lazy, so they will just move to jita. No. They’ll stay right where they are. Moving 20 - 100 billion worth of materials, BPs, and finished product 45 jumps is just not going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/532 "2020-08-18T22:57:40Z")
So when you said ‘read any description by CCP’ you meant any description that fits your narrative? > [@Chadwikk](#): > > I never once defended that guys argument that PVP shouldn’t be allowed in HS so I am not sure why you are acting like I said that. > [@Chadwikk](#): > > All he said was the way everyone plays the game is valid and should not be destroyed or taken away from them. So I’m guessing you missed what he actually said then? > [@Chadwikk](#): > > Also the fact that you take PVP to mean ships literally shooting at each other from that post is is a major reach. I didn’t. You said this in reply to merin saying it was a pvp sandbox: > [@Chadwikk](#): > > You can have your own arguments but you aren’t entitled to your own facts, Eve Online is a sandbox MMORPG game go read any description by CCP lmao… So either you’re confusing what is meant by pvp sandbox or you don’t disagree with merin. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/536 "2020-08-18T23:02:34Z")
Wow, this thread has blown up in just a few hours. Can someone really quickly summarize for me how many people have rage-quit so far, while I try to catch up? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/537 "2020-08-18T23:05:06Z")
None of them for a change yet! It will get there soon enough… ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/539 "2020-08-18T23:09:09Z")
I was just thinking that the thread had smeared itself over the fan… and I see the usual culprit. Summary: It’s apparently the end of Hi Sec, Null Sec was divided on what outcome they wanted (I’d like to hear more on what The Imperium’s plan is), CODE will likely no longer operate out of Niarja (though I foresee some very interesting times ahead with regard their activities 🏴‍☠️). ---
**Author:** ![Ira\_Infernus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ira_infernus/32/389782_2.png) [@Ira\_Infernus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ira_Infernus)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/540 "2020-08-18T23:09:28Z")
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