# Discussion Of The Implications Of Niarja's Invasion **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 17, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741 "2020-08-17T05:26:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/678 "2020-08-19T15:06:11Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Darlo, stop it please. > > Why so bothered, I mean I have put over eleven years in this game, I have tried various parts of the game and I still find enjoyment with it, I have played quite a few games and this one keeps my attention more than most. > > If you keep screaming Koreans bad and PA are destroying this game then you ruin it for yourself, I don’t see anything that knocks my socks off at all, gold ammo will, if that happens I am out period. > > In fact I think CCP deliberately making it harder to farm and create ISK and assets is needed because so many players including myself are sitting back on large wads of ISK and assets so it means I don’t bother doing a lot of content. This is not good. In fact what CCP has been doing is making an effort on that part and it is not just hisec. Don’t forget that the spawn rate for nullsec went down too and the roids reduced massively. > > You will call this making people buy plex for ISK, and that will happen, but the massive amount of ISK and assets in the game do have a paralysing affect and need to be worked out of the system. > > CCP are doing a very difficult job, so think about it a bit and stop being so damn strident. You come over as bad as some of the most rabid HTFU players. > > This is not a personal attack by the way, but an attempt to make you see reason. This is the second time today that I have jumped in and tried to explain to someone not to act like this. Step back, chill out. What the heck? Have you changed your posting account to prove that ‘others’ see it as you? What has this to do with asians or not? Buisness is buisness asians or not. Would you accuse me of being against spanish people if Pa would be a spanish corp? See how stupid this accuse is? No? Well then i pity you… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/679 "2020-08-19T15:06:35Z")
> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > So you think the racism is all fine and dandy? Do you think using a country’s name and saying it is racism is fine and dandy? ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/680 "2020-08-19T15:09:44Z")
I see Darlo the Clueless is back again. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/681 "2020-08-19T15:09:50Z")
It is racist, cause there was not reason to mention it. Not only does PA have nothing to do with the transition to micro-transactions. As stated, the seeds were the implementation of skill trading. But there was no argument other than _“they are Korean”_. So yes, it was racist. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/682 "2020-08-19T15:10:08Z")
Generally there is the concept of a Korean business model in MMO games which is often referred to as Korean. Am I wrong to understand it like that? @Jayce_Fitzpatrick the question applies to you too, to call me racist for that is quite frankly ridiculous. Darlo, I never saw your statement as racism, but someone else did and you threw that at me, wow. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/683 "2020-08-19T15:10:40Z")
> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > I see Darlo the Clueless is back again. I see kane the unecessary accuser is back… ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/684 "2020-08-19T15:12:04Z")
Your posting history speaks for itself. But back on Topic. So how about that 40 jumps 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/688 "2020-08-19T15:13:52Z")
F2P micro-transactions in MMOs have nothing to do with Korea. It is a business model used by many companies of many nations. Not exclusive to the Korean MMO market. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/689 "2020-08-19T15:14:16Z")
Yes and… continue. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/690 "2020-08-19T15:16:07Z")
Bottom line this could be the final nail in the casket for this game…one stupid ccp decision too much… ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/691 "2020-08-19T15:16:24Z")
Continue what? So you associating “Korean” to that term is false. It is a racist perception, that somehow the negative effects of F2P micro-transactions is because of Koreans. F2P micro-transactions in MMOs have nothing to do with any nation. So associating all the negatives to Korea exclusively, as if Korea are to blame for all of it is ridiculous ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/692 "2020-08-19T15:17:36Z")
I was responding to another player using that term, though as I said I believe it to be a sweeping generalisation based on the fact that most Korean games are on this basis. Still if you want to call me racist for it go ahead, and have my contempt back at you. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/710 "2020-08-19T15:38:29Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > What is so ‘brave’ about destroying half of the game(pve) for 2/3 of your players(pve)? That is brave actually, because they are doing something that will cause a major upheaval to many of their player base. > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > You didn’t answer my question. I did say I thought your question was only worthy of contempt. > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > I think we’ve been off-topic enough though. Can see from your answers, Foggy’s and Balos’, that we just have another understanding of what is acceptable. So I see no point in continuing this discourse. You have, stop throwing I win cards in like that. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/712 "2020-08-19T15:40:15Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/e/7e266ffcf32ba75564857fbe1f7daec90d361bf8.png) [https://prnt.sc/u290z8](https://prnt.sc/u290z8) The mental state of Kasiha Valkanir and the rest of edencom after the fall of niarja ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/714 "2020-08-19T15:41:01Z")
That also proof and reflect of bad game design… key important systems go under invasin and get lost within hours may be most player base in their warm beds and deep sleep…this is careless ! Doesnt give single ■■■■ to players REAL LIFES! Even 1b cost citadels requires second attack and time cooldowns that you know when will be vulnarable again so even you miss the first cycle you may be can arrange send one and wake people up from their sleeps by set them alarm clocks ! … but… this … this is just respectless and heresy ! ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/719 "2020-08-19T15:44:43Z")
It’s an invasion, did you expect an army to invade and then…stop because the enemy wasn’t there ? ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/720 "2020-08-19T15:45:27Z")
no…it’s expected that CCP didn’t implent this crap at all… ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/721 "2020-08-19T15:46:05Z")
Really is that your point? So why stations has timers so fleet should stop shooting ? It is a war right ? ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/724 "2020-08-19T15:49:05Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > Really is that your point? So why stations has timers so fleet should stop shooting ? It is a war right ? war decs were made harder in highsec for a reason…most high sec people don’t WANT pvp… ---
**Author:** ![Tokaguwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tokaguwa/32/244455_2.png) [@Tokaguwa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tokaguwa)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/725 "2020-08-19T15:49:43Z")
CODE will be fine. There is now a “gauntlet of doom” that has to be run by anyone hauling the new EvE “Silk Road” (saw this reference, a diagram showing the gauntlet of doom and all the system names that are involved in the 45 jump route on Reddit). Something like 5 or 6 systems, in a row, of .5 security. Don’t forget that Hek is on this route too. Also a .5 system [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741.md?page=28) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741.md?page=30)