# Discussion Of The Implications Of Niarja's Invasion **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 17, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741 "2020-08-17T05:26:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Kell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucas_kell/32/393556_2.png) [@Lucas\_Kell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucas_Kell)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/726 "2020-08-19T15:50:40Z")
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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/727 "2020-08-19T15:51:25Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > That also proof and reflect of bad game design… key important systems go under invasin and get lost within hours may be most player base in their warm beds and deep sleep…this is careless ! Doesnt give single ■■■■ to players REAL LIFES! > > Even 1b cost citadels requires second attack and time cooldowns that you know when will be vulnarable again so even you miss the first cycle you may be can arrange send one and wake people up from their sleeps by set them alarm clocks ! … but… this … this is just respectless and heresy ! In a single shard game content provided by DEVs shouldnt be favour of some players who are on their active Time Zones and damning the rest of player base … This is open FAVORITISM for the players who active on that hours and benefit from content . ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/728 "2020-08-19T15:52:28Z")
No that’s was alwasy eve We don’t stop just because you were in your weak time zone ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/729 "2020-08-19T15:52:48Z")
It will come as i said years ago…maybe 5-10k people will have their pvp paradise in which they will pvp each other in a constant loop. PVE will be dead and they will think they ‘won’ until the server will be closed because of not being profitable anymore… And of course,BALOS will be the one that will be blamed for this because he said it at a moment the course could have been changed to the better… ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/731 "2020-08-19T15:56:33Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > In a single shard game content provided by DEVs shouldnt be favour of some players who are on their active Time Zones and damning the rest of player base … > > This is open FAVORITISM for the players who active on that hours and benefit from content . No it doesnt … EVE online had been more sandbox game content driven by players and timing more players regulated… EVe online never been manipulated by the Developers that much before… Get clever learn and if you really want to defend what you are saying… make some more grounded sentences… ---
**Author:** ![Nathan\_Rolk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nathan_rolk/32/256038_2.png) [@Nathan\_Rolk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nathan_Rolk)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/733 "2020-08-19T15:59:07Z")
One of those two parties is overstepping a border. In order to make a better business case for CCP, they should get their toy taken away. \<-The essence of my statement. Afterall this is NOT reality, and therefore serving all peoples demands can be served. HS gankers can still overwelm helpless players in LS gatecamps, if they can’t have power over others in RL. And then there are ppl willing to ‘pay 400bISK in order to flip Niarja’ just because they are bored the sh\*t out of their bones and too rich, right Destiny!? ---
**Author:** ![Tokaguwa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tokaguwa/32/244455_2.png) [@Tokaguwa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tokaguwa)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/734 "2020-08-19T15:59:26Z")
I’d rather see Gallente space get separated from Minmatar space personally. It even kind of makes sense from a lore angle. The other option that I find appealing is each high sec bloc turned into islands. I always thought this would be the most interesting option though one I don’t see happening for a variety of reasons ---
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/735 "2020-08-19T15:59:48Z")
There’s a solution for that. Sacrificial ganker-ganker. Then CONCORD is summoned to the gate, and the would-be gankers do not have their response delay. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/736 "2020-08-19T16:00:09Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > No it doesnt … EVE online had been more sandbox game content driven by players and timing more players regulated… EVe online never been manipulated by the Developers that much before… Get clever learn and if you really want to defend what you are saying… make some more grounded sentences… Eve once WAS a sandbox…was something special… Now it’s standard ftp crap…even skillpoints can be bought with money… The eve you mentioned is DEAD… ---
**Author:** ![Nathan\_Rolk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nathan_rolk/32/256038_2.png) [@Nathan\_Rolk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nathan_Rolk)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/737 "2020-08-19T16:01:24Z")
Nobody ever said this was a simulation. You seem to be imagining things, bro. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/739 "2020-08-19T16:02:56Z")
Was always possible…today it’s made impossible for NO other reason than making stupid decisions by devs that have no connection to the game and no clue what eve was and how it works… ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/740 "2020-08-19T16:05:58Z")
[https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-game-is-dead/261009/5?u=bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/this-game-is-dead/261009/5) agree ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/741 "2020-08-19T16:08:54Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > PVE will be dead and they will think they ‘won’ until the server will be closed because of not being profitable anymore… Nope. PvE will not be dead. The only PvE players hurt by this change are the lazy and/or stupid ones, the smart and ambitious ones will just find other ways to profit. Please stop making the mistake of assuming that all PvE players are as bad at EVE as you are. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/742 "2020-08-19T16:09:48Z")
> [@Tokaguwa](#): > > The other option that I find appealing is each high sec bloc turned into islands. I always thought this would be the most interesting option though one I don’t see happening for a variety of reasons I don’t know if I’d make them islands, but I don’t hate route lengthening. Dodixie ↔ Hek could absolutely stand some lengthening of its contiguous high sec route. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/744 "2020-08-19T16:10:50Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > It’s just a pain in the backside to read a topic when half the conversation is hidden because some neckbeard can’t handle opinions differing. Alternatively, nobody really cares that the guy spamming pointless nonsense like “woof woof good boy” over and over again is getting its post flagged. You shouldn’t worry about reading its posts because they contain nothing of value. ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/754 "2020-08-19T16:23:12Z")
If only there was a way to counteract this hmmmm ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/757 "2020-08-19T16:26:41Z")
> [@Aaaarrgg](#): > > If only there was a way to counteract this hmmmm You mean like your mafia like ‘we have an offer you cannot reject’? I would have that thrown back into your throat too ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/758 "2020-08-19T16:28:43Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > I would have that thrown back into your throat too but you don’t dare to try this with us buddy because you know you would choke on this bite…and reading this i realize i said already too much… It would be great if carebears would ever bother to back up their words with actions, instead of just complaining on the forums about how PvP exists. If this supposed “majority” really exists outside of your imagination it should have no problems clearing the gatecamps from Niarja and maintaining a safe trade route. But instead I’m sure you’ll continue to make threats on the forums and do nothing in game. ---
**Author:** ![Tauroqa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tauroqa/32/242613_2.png) [@Tauroqa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tauroqa)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/761 "2020-08-19T16:36:53Z")
It’s a bit like game of thrones…I held out hope, inspite of a slew of dodgy ■■■■ over the latter seasons, until 8x3, and I accepted that no, it really had become actually _bad_ and resigned to watching it out of bloody-mindedness. So, with this whole CV19 shitstorm I had more time for eve this year…but…invasions, what’s this…oh…that’s eve…it’s actually bad now. CCP are D&D. Clueless. You imposed this ■■■■■■■ stupid invasion BS on us, we tried to defend against it, but oh, CCP, you gave players the ability to ■■■■ up your game, and in a matter of hours, they did - Largely players who have nothing to do with the impacts imposed. Now years and years of player lifestyle have been skewered, habbits, routines, game mechanics, structures and designs, mangled for no clear reason… Chapter 3 is dead, you can stick it up your ■■■■■■■ arses. ---
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-of-the-implications-of-niarjas-invasion/260741/762 "2020-08-19T16:38:21Z")
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