# \[Discussion\] PLEX and Omega price changes feedback thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [April 22, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882 "2022-04-22T13:00:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 206
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4587 "2023-01-30T16:10:39Z")
> [@Daretqua](#): > > you have to pay monthly fees. No, you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4588 "2023-01-30T16:15:24Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > No, you don’t. How can I get full skil tree and not pay for omega? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4589 "2023-01-30T16:18:13Z")
Well, for starters, stop whining in the forums. Try undocking in a spaceship. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4590 "2023-01-30T16:19:03Z")
> [@Daretqua](#): > > I would like to see this alpha (F2P) with full unlimited skill tree. You think CCP work for free? Get out of mummy’s basement and get a job FFS. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/7/2/17252fa334cf45c801249eb0cc02006004c29f9c.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4591 "2023-01-30T16:22:04Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > You think CCP work for free? You can’t read with understanding, or you don’t want to understand? > [@Daretqua](#): > > I would propably buy some bundle to support the game, but not subscription as it is now. ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4592 "2023-01-30T16:26:48Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Well, for starters, stop whining in the forums. What to say … do you understand the difference between whining and personal opinion? Or is it to much? > [@Daretqua](#): > > (Just my opinion, not winning, not complaining - info for some members, they don’t want to understand the point) ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4593 "2023-01-30T17:03:44Z")
Anyway, reading between lines, Zaera and Aiko are true supporters. Unfortunately I don’t now why, but they obviously believe that everyone with different opinion has to be verbally insulted. I read some reviews that the game is full of griefers and the community is toxic. On the other side I found great stories from the game. I would like to read more interesting and positive info, than I already did from those two. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4594 "2023-01-30T18:44:30Z")
> [@Daretqua](#): > > I don’t now why ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/3/4/b34cec0809a3ad37bd861cb5ee381a87f70d9633.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4595 "2023-01-30T23:08:06Z")
Hahaha, I know what this remainders me at. It is like talking with my pubertal daughter. No matter what I say, she always hears something else 😄 Now I know … 🤣 😂 😵‍💫 ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4596 "2023-01-31T08:30:17Z")
I want to say goodbye to this discussion. I wanted to (re)start discussion about pricing, motivation, wishes, maybe future, but the original post is buried behind lots of fanboy trolling from Zaera and Aiko, so the hope for meaningful discussion is gone. As I started to think about subscription, now I know, I don’t want it. It is a solution as well. @Zaera_Keena, @Aiko_Danuja, kids, now you can start complaining and whining about complaining and whining … and don’t forget to add some lame gifs. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Collins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_collins/32/352735_2.png) [@Max\_Collins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Collins)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4597 "2023-01-31T15:48:37Z")
Please ignore them, What do you expect? Aiko is a manchild behind pc with too much time on their hands and unfortunately a sad real life. So they turn to game like eve where griefing is allowed and they try to become the edge lords that would have been in real life if there were no consequences of their actions. So let them be, block them they don’t matter in grand scheme of things just like SAFETY which is just Hawk ganking anyways atleast he is a bit professional about it. I don’t know the other dude but some sympathizer or Akio just replying from two accounts so he doesn’t seem alone 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4598 "2023-01-31T16:28:00Z")
> [@Max\_Collins](#): > > Aiko is a manchild behind pc with too much time on their hands and unfortunately a sad real life. Self projection by a nobody. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4599 "2023-01-31T22:23:59Z")
When you have to resort to insults, you have already lost the argument… ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4600 "2023-02-01T01:24:39Z")
> [@Max\_Collins](#): > > Aiko is a manchild behind pc with too much time on their hands and unfortunately a sad real life. And you know this how? Creepy stalking? Hacked her ISP? Hired a private investigator? I happen to know that she is a princess, and has taken all of new eden into her loving bosom. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4602 "2023-02-01T02:12:39Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Just a butt hurt noob that sucks at PvP. I wonder if this is the new Kell alt and Elizabet will vanish into the ether like all the rest. Let’s find out! ---
**Author:** ![Turgun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/turgun/32/485606_2.png) [@Turgun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Turgun)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4603 "2023-02-01T04:41:29Z")
Honestly why do you think the game should be free for you in all its entirety? Do you often go to coffee shops and insist of free coffee? Do you often advise people to give you a complete collection for nothing when they give you a free sample? There seems to be an irrationality to your logic so I am genuinely curious: why on earth do you think a product that takes time and money to maintain should be completely free and what, in your mind, do you think happens to companies that do that? ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4604 "2023-02-01T11:59:11Z")
Not for free. I just don’t like the combination. “Pay2win” aspect (plex, skill point, …) and expensive subscription. One or another. It’s just my opinion, you don’t have to agree. > [@Daretqua](#): > > I would expect that if you buy some bundle (for a price of a new game), I get lifetime omega. > CCP get their money + more money from microtransactions (PLEX) + more from different bundles, etc. > Why so expensive subscription? > If subscription, than it should give players something real, like som PLEX, some special items, something what is worth the subscription. ---
**Author:** ![Jian\_Mira](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jian_mira/32/509519_2.png) [@Jian\_Mira](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jian_Mira)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4605 "2023-02-01T19:55:08Z")
not played for over 6 months, not seen any changes… Are there any improvements? ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4606 "2023-02-01T22:04:44Z")
if you have not played how do you expect to see change? here? reddit? m ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/discussion-plex-and-omega-price-changes-feedback-thread/358882/4607 "2023-02-01T23:33:00Z")
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