# Dispelling The Hype Over Alien Life

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235>\
**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [January 3, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235 "2023-01-03T02:14:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/321 "2023-01-23T08:19:01Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> But nobody is interested in such objects

Our scientists wouldn’t be interested in Alien space junk? I seriously doubt that. They raved about a rock from interstellar space all the time it took it to approach our solar system and leave it so Alien space junk? They’d have a party.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> You do realize that they would have no way of telling what the hell it is even, after batteries goes dead

No I don’t. Why would they have no way of telling what a probe is unless they were still in the stone age?

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> If they even detect it by means of electromagnetic waves it can reflect. Its size is really small

Then you’re talking about an Alien civilization that hasn’t even invented the telescope. In that case yes, our probe would fly on unnoticed.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Just as we are not interested in plethora of small space objects, assuming their origin is natural, because that is what nature looks like, a lot of small natural space objects around

I thought we were talking probes sent into interstellar space, not your average space rock and dust.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Why, when you can even make humans do funny things while they do that? Ah, If you would be human, you may even protest. If not, it can be anything you wish. You can come there, on human planet, take them into cages and make them do funny things for entertainment purposes, you could even keep them as your pets, you could make them dance for you and even make them bash each others heads for you, because they are not protected by any interstellar or galactic law. If you squish some, by mistake or intentionally, nobody will even move appendage in protest

Why… let’s say that, as an Alien, humans aren’t even interesting for entertainment purposes. Even as slaves they cause problems. And I’m sure that Aliens have their little pets to entertain them. No need to go seek creatures who are liable to blow up the planet by accident.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> What a beautiful creatures we are…

Indeed. Beauty becomes us 😃

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Not even mentioning that when you are bored they can even be eaten alive, and they make some funny noises when you do that

I admit that would be entertaining. Especially feeding them to my Banth.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/322 "2023-01-23T11:47:44Z")

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> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> They raved about a rock from interstellar space all the time

Hehe, what if it was a strange space probe junk tho? Why do you assume that was rock? You will never know that now. Alien probe debris may have been here and you would not even know. 🫣  
But of course they will tell you that there is:

> insufficient evidence in support of this hypothesis for the object “despite all [its] strangeness”

> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> No I don’t. Why would they have no way of telling what a probe is unless they were still in the stone age?

If they would not assume its a natural space debris of some kind from a long distance, like you have done it with Oumuamua, if they would intercept it, they still could have different ideas about technology, and their tech could be entirely different from ours. You do know what purpose is for that thing, right?

> **[Roman dodecahedron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron)**
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> A Roman dodecahedron or Gallo-Roman dodecahedron is a small hollow object made of copper alloy which has been cast into a regular dodecahedral shape: twelve flat pentagonal faces, each face having a circular hole of varying diameter in the middle, the holes connecting to the hollow center. Roman dodecahedra date from the 2nd to 4th centuries AD and their purpose remains unknown. They rarely show signs of wear, and do not have any inscribed numbers or letters.
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> The first dodecahedron was found in...

> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> telescope

There is limit to what you can see thru telescopes, there isnt enough reflection for small objects.  
Oumuamua had an estimated size from 100 and 1,000 metres, voyager is very small in comparison. its biggest piece is antenna, that is 3,5 m big in diameter.

> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> I thought we were talking probes sent into interstellar space, not your average space rock and dust.

Of course, but how you tell one from another? With Oumuamua case, you see its not so easy to say what is what. From such distances at least.

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/323 "2023-01-23T12:13:04Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Hehe, what if it was a strange space probe junk tho? Why do you assume that was rock? You will never know that now

I call it a “rock” until proof that it isn’t a rock.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Alien probe debris may have been here and you would not even know

Nothing gained nothing lost.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> But of course they will tell you that there is:
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> > insufficient evidence in support of this hypothesis for the object “despite all [its] strangeness”

And they would be right.  
Sufficient evidence is needed and in that case there just weren’t enough evidence to call it anything other than a rock.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> If they would not assume its a natural space debris of some kind from a long distance, like you have done it with Oumuamua, if they would intercept it, they still could have different ideas about technology, and their tech could be entirely different from ours

For sure. But they would not deduce it’s a natural thing when everything about it show evidence of manufacture.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> You do know what purpose is for that thing, right?

“_No mention of dodecahedrons has been found in contemporary accounts or pictures of the time. Speculative uses include as survey instruments for estimating distances to (or sizes of) distant objects, or devices for determining the optimal sowing date for winter grain. More wildly, it has been speculated that they were used as spool knitting devices for making gloves. Several dodecahedra were found in coin hoards, providing evidence that their owners either considered them valuable objects, or believed their only use was connected with coins.  
It has also been suggested that they may have been religious artifacts, or even fortune-telling devices. This latter speculation is based on the fact that most of the examples have been found in Gallo-Roman sites._”

Those artifacts may not even have been used by the Romans. My guess is they existed well before the Roman empire and the fact that they were found in Gallo-Roman sites doesn’t mean they were made by Roman or even Greek hands.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> There is limit to what you can see thru telescopes, there isnt enough reflection for small objects.  
> Oumuamua had an estimated size from 100 and 1,000 metres, voyager is very small in comparison. its biggest piece is antenna, that is 3,5 m big in diameter

True. But I was talking about _when_ they find the probe, not _if_.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Of course, but how you tell one from another? With Oumuamua case, you see its not so easy to say what is what. From such distances at least

I think scientists can generally tell what it is they’re looking at. The big hubbub about Oumuamua was that it was the first such object to enter our solar system from interstellar space, not that there was something strange with it. It was a rock.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/324 "2023-01-23T12:29:11Z")

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> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> not that there was something strange with it

Actually there was, that is why people argued its not a rock at all.

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/325 "2023-01-23T12:32:25Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Actually there was, that is why people argued its not a rock at all.

What was so strange about it? An elongated form? The way it caught the light of the sun?

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/326 "2023-01-23T12:38:04Z")

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If there wasnt a Big Bang, then Einstein Physics would be able to explain the Universe without gravity being generated by a star.

Expanding or Big Bang, the idea that matter increased in mass, substatianally, is the end result.

Since Einstein’s physics can’t explain Primordial space then there is a set of physics that does explain and proves faster than light speed velocities.

Not all liquid is able to be used a waste management fluid. oil is a liquid and cant be used.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/327 "2023-01-23T13:12:49Z")

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> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> What was so strange about it? An elongated form? The way it caught the light of the sun?

Something else, but as they say, there was “insufficient evidence” it was made by aliens.  
Cant blame them really, they couldnt research it more.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/328 "2023-01-23T21:43:59Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> Not all liquid is able to be used a waste management fluid. oil is a liquid and cant be used.

Oil is used as a waste management fluid in car engines.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/329 "2023-01-23T21:56:00Z")

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Bears ■■■■ in the woods and they dont need no other waste management. Humans did that too for thousands of years.

Aliens would poop in the woods too, if need arises.

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/330 "2023-01-23T22:25:56Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Aliens would poop in the woods too, if need arises.

😅

I think Aliens have found a way to recycle poop into a fuel.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/331 "2023-01-24T04:27:42Z")

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Didn’t you guys ever watch District 9? Aliens are not that smart.

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/332 "2023-01-24T11:25:42Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Didn’t you guys ever watch District 9? Aliens are not that smart

Did you watch Aliens? Those creatures are smart and incredibly deadly.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/333 "2023-01-24T13:00:41Z")

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There are sooo many aliens in fiction.

Those less tech-savvy could still be dangerous when we encounter them in real life. Just like in Emu wars.

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/334 "2023-01-24T13:04:42Z")

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for all we know they could have deadly bactera to us that is fine to them

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/335 "2023-01-24T16:50:15Z")

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Very true.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/337 "2023-01-24T21:33:49Z")

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> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> Did you watch Aliens? Those creatures are smart and incredibly deadly.

No way could those dumb animals figure out how to convert solid ice into liquid water.

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/338 "2023-01-24T21:55:12Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> No way could those dumb animals figure out how to convert solid ice into liquid water

Fortunately not. But that doesn’t mean they’re dumb.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/339 "2023-01-25T00:08:42Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> If a black hole compresses all elements into Primordial matter and the Higgs-Boson adds mass to a particle after a Big Bang takes place

The Higgs Boson actually only adds 1% of the mass of particles.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/340 "2023-01-25T03:06:05Z")

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Why would any intelligent alien race want to visit a sub warp, ugly bags of water virus infested planet like ours?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/341 "2023-01-25T03:08:54Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> Why would any intelligent alien race want to visit a sub warp, ugly bags of water virus infested planet like ours?

We are the ultimate reality TV show.

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