# Dispelling The Hype Over Alien Life

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235>\
**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [January 3, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235 "2023-01-03T02:14:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/569 "2023-07-19T15:07:35Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/570 "2023-07-19T15:09:13Z")

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removed several posts which were off topic/inappropriate.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/571 "2023-07-19T15:09:16Z")

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**Author:** ![Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charlotte_aufraises/32/378701_2.png) [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charlotte_Aufraises)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/572 "2023-07-19T15:16:47Z")

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> [@ISD\_Drew](#):
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> Real World Religion

ISD\_DREW I apologize, **I forgot** that - - - is hated most everywhere now. My bad for mentioning - - -.

On topic then.

Is there really a “hype” over Alien Life or is it a fake hype, the kind the media create on a slow news day?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/573 "2023-07-19T17:19:53Z")

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I have abandoned the thread. My bad for thinking I could have an intelligent discussion here.

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**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/574 "2023-07-19T22:07:03Z")

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> [@ISD\_Drew](#):
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> Real World Religion

This convo is unrealistic and I am unsure why you deleted my posts talking about the origin and meaning of numbers. I already said I wasn’t imposing it on anyone I am just curious as to why others think like they do.

How does - “numbers are the language of creation” mean religion? And how are we supposed to discuss the possibility of alien life without the convo touching on religion somewhat?

So we can talk about numbers, but in no shape or form can we talk about where we think they come from or what they mean? I’m a 45 years old man not a school boy talking when I shouldn’t.

This is unrealistic moderation done by someone who lacks experience. And you could do with instruction on how to moderate.

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**Author:** ![Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charlotte_aufraises/32/378701_2.png) [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charlotte_Aufraises)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/575 "2023-07-19T22:18:22Z")

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> [@Aaron](#):
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> This is unrealistic moderation done by someone who lacks experience. And you could do with instruction on how to moderate

So you waste your time writing a big post about something that would get said post removed?  
Do you know that we’re not supposed to post about “moderation” ? That means that if you don’t like how the forum is moderated you either have to shut up about it or… shut up about it. Your choice.

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> I have abandoned the thread

Quitter.

> [@Aaron](#):
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> How does - “numbers are the language of creation” mean religion?

Because the word “creation” involves a creator. Can’t mention anything out of the good book. That’s “Religion”.

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**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/576 "2023-07-19T22:22:58Z")

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> [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](#):
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> Do you know that we’re not supposed to post about “moderation” ? That means that if you don’t like how the forum is moderated you either have to shut up about it or… shut up about it. Your choice.

I guess this is a fake convo then which will never encompass the entire subject, they can go ahead and ban me because I think the moderation is unrealistic and I am not afraid to say so.

I’m actually sick of the moderators and their poor decisions. One can’t even get a decent convo here and we’ve never really been able to.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/577 "2023-07-19T22:24:45Z")

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Way above my knowledge level though can only add that the strength of the force exerted played a role in the formation.

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**Author:** ![Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charlotte_aufraises/32/378701_2.png) [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charlotte_Aufraises)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/578 "2023-07-19T22:26:49Z")

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> [@Aaron](#):
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> I’m actually sick of the moderators and their poor decisions.

Calm down ( miner, lol ) This forum is only a service, not a human right, lol. We’re guests here and I guess we’re supposed to act like the hosts want us to act. There’s favoritism of course but I think it’s based on seniority.

> [@Aaron](#):
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> I guess this is a fake convo then

Of course it is. This whole world is fake. Nothing to get bent out of shape over.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/579 "2023-07-19T22:27:46Z")

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Please stay, we know there are aliens just not what one might think of what an alien looks or tastes like.

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**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/580 "2023-07-19T22:46:22Z")

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> [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](#):
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> Because the word “creation” involves a creator. Can’t mention anything out of the good book. That’s “Religion”.

Hmmm, I’m just trying to work out if we can discuss the origin of numbers without discussing the origin of numbers.

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**Author:** ![Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charlotte_aufraises/32/378701_2.png) [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charlotte_Aufraises)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/581 "2023-07-19T22:48:57Z")

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> [@Aaron](#):
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> Hmmm, I’m just trying to work out if we can discuss the origin of numbers without discussing the origin of numbers

You can, but only through the prism of the new religion: Science.

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**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/582 "2023-07-19T23:12:38Z")

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> [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](#):
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> You can, but only through the prism of the new religion: Science.

Science is really just the study of what’s apparent, it doesn’t tell us the reason why things exists and it doesn’t explain what generates our reality. It explains the mechanics of reality but we can’t get an indication as to what prompted the creation of the universe and why.

If we only consider scientific reasoning for aliens existing or not then the convo is over simply because that is not the only perspective which exists. One can’t say anything these days without deeply offending anyone.

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**Author:** ![Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charlotte_aufraises/32/378701_2.png) [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charlotte_Aufraises)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/583 "2023-07-19T23:53:39Z")

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> [@Aaron](#):
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> Science is really just the study of what’s apparent, it doesn’t tell us the reason why things exists and it doesn’t explain what generates our reality

According to the Science nuts it does. It proves that the universes appeared one day out of a big explosion. It explains where/why that explosion happened and if you believe it doesn’t then you are a problem.

> [@Aaron](#):
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> It explains the mechanics of reality but we can’t get an indication as to what prompted the **creation** of the universe and why

It does and Science nuts say you’re mentally inferior if you don’t believe it does.

And there you go with that word “creation” again. Strike it from your vocabulary.

> [@Aaron](#):
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> If we only consider scientific reasoning for aliens existing or not then the convo is over simply because that is not the only perspective which exists

It is the **only** explanation. Other perspectives are born out of fear and ignorance. Only Science is right.

> [@Aaron](#):
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> One can’t say anything these days without deeply offending anyone

Then the answer is easy: don’t say anything.

You realize of course that I play the devil’s advocate in this post but regrettably the Science nuts do not.

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**Author:** ![Quentin\_Schaefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quentin_schaefer/32/471507_2.png) [@Quentin\_Schaefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quentin_Schaefer)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/584 "2023-07-20T19:21:52Z")

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Science is ■■■■■■■■, IMO. All it does is provide a lens through which we observe our reality. All we’ll ever know through science is what is around us. But there’s plenty of stuff out there that either gets cloudy through our lens-kinda like geographic atrophy that that guy mentions in that recent AMD commercial-or simply gets missed completely. Nothing that I know of is completely visible to everything in existence, whether seen through our lens or not. But that’s the point. Nothing will ever know everything, all the time. Not even other aliens.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/585 "2023-07-21T02:44:09Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Please stay

Nooo. I think the John Cleese sketch summed up my position perfectly.

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**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/586 "2023-07-21T08:41:11Z")

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Honestly, it doesn’t really matter what anyone thinks or believes. The truth is whatever it may be and nobody can ever change that. Really this thread should just be about exchanging ideas and general discussion, nobody is trying to get you to believe anything.

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**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dispelling-the-hype-over-alien-life/390235/587 "2023-07-22T14:53:06Z")

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